I know I'm gonna get a hard time but I just can't see any advantage in Open Carry (unless it's the only legal option).
Yup you are.
I don't want to advertise that I'm carrying.
So in other words, you want to advertise you are unarmed. Who do criminals choose again?
I don't need the validation or approval of others.
Neither do I. Then again it is the fear of others disapproval that sounds more like why people don't open carry...not the other way around.
I don't want to be a target for any anti-gun liberal who can see my pistol and lie and call 911 saying I threatened him.
This IS a possibility that has happened to another forum member here. Keep your trap shut, let your lawyer do his job, and watch freedom ring.
I just don't want to draw ANY attention to myself at all! I want to be invisible. After I leave if someone says: Who was that fat guy?" I want everybody else to say: "What fat guy. I didn't see any fat guy!"
The majority of society doesn't even realize I am open carrying...they aren't the ones we are worried about though. Criminals are aware, they are looking for an easy victim, they will notice the "fat guy" that is unarmed and unaware. They will notice that I have a gun, and they will choose an unarmed easy victim over me.
And I definitely don't want to be the 1st guy shot during a robbery or other altercation.
This would be nice if it were true. We have challenged MULTIPLE times to go find a story where an open carrier was shot first during a robbery. Open carry has been going on in states such as Washington, Arizona, Nevada, Colorado, and many more states for DECADES (sorry bikenut for stealing your thunder). This challenge will go unanswered yet again though...just like every time before.
I'd tell him if he's at the bank when an armed robbery starts, he'll be the first one shot.
In Massachusetts, there are no laws against OC, but if you do, you can get arressted for disturbing the peace.
The only thing you may have in your favor is the element of surprise.
I'd tell tohim if he's at the bank when an armed robbery starts, he'll be the first one shot.
You also don't get to throw as many surprise parties when you open carry.
Open carries usually don't look down on others...kind of like the way you do with your "friend"...so that's a downside for all the elitist's out there
I'm sure I will come up with more throughout the day.
By open carrying, you are less likely to get to play superhero and purge the world of an evildoer using your "element of surprise."
With concealed carry, you can pat yourself on the back about how good you are about concealing your gun when nobody notices. With open carry, all you can do is blame everyone else's lack of situational awareness.
Open carry WILL increase the likelihood of a law enforcement officer committing a criminal act against you; or at a minimum harrassing you, oh I mean having a consensual encouter with you, needlessly.
Other than the harassment you may receive from the Police. If a place of business has a sign "No Guns Allowed". Now what?
I like concealed, Nobody knows.
You also don't get to throw as many surprise parties when you open carry.
Open carries usually don't look down on others...kind of like the way you do with your "friend"...so that's a downside for all the elitist's out there
I'm sure I will come up with more throughout the day.
By open carrying, you are less likely to get to play superhero and purge the world of an evildoer using your "element of surprise."
With concealed carry, you can pat yourself on the back about how good you are about concealing your gun when nobody notices. With open carry, all you can do is blame everyone else's lack of situational awareness.
Wow, that sure didn't take long!
Why the acrimony toward cc'ers?
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The only thing you may have in your favor is the element of surprise.
So, you think it is a fair trade? The property owner does not respect your right to carry a firearm, so, in turn, you will not respect their right to control what comes on or stays off their property?Other than the harassment you may receive from the Police. If a place of business has a sign "No Guns Allowed". Now what?
I like concealed, Nobody knows.
"Now what" in Ohio is you CAN'T go in, open OR concealed, since it's a crime to do so.Other than the harassment you may receive from the Police. If a place of business has a sign "No Guns Allowed". Now what?
I like concealed, Nobody knows.
I have a friend who want's to open carry and I've tried to talk him out of it, because I think it would make him a traget to anyone who might be thinking about doing anything unlawful near him. I had thought to ask the open carry forun here but I really don't think I would recieve a un-biased reply. What I'm asking is what negative reasons are out there, that I can sudjest to my friend.
I OC and CC and have never had any trouble from anyone at all.
Wow. Over 35 replies and the OP has not come back to thank those who agree with him.
It's ironic that the The concealed carry only crowd has made numerous references to open carriers as Wyatt Earp. I recently read Earp's biography and found some interesting things. When patrolling, he, his brothers and even the Mastersons always carried a hidden belly gun in addition to their side arms. They concealed it. Earp sometimes didn't carry a sidearm at all, just a concealed belly gun, which I found amazing considering the element they were dealing with. What balls! They tried to enforce laws prohibiting the carry of firearms within city limits without much success. The good citizens followed the law and the bad element began concealing or carrying a belly gun.I love the element of surprise argument. Here's why. The concealed carry only crowd has made numerous references to open carriers as John Wayne, Wyatt Earp and wild west gunfighters. And yet, the truth is, the open carrier relies upon his gun as a visible deterrent realizing that the vast majority of criminals encountered on the street are looking for an easy target and quick score with little chance of getting caught. Attacking a person with enough cahones to openly carry a gun just doesn't fit that goal. 99.5% of the rest of the public does appear to meet that goal, however. The open carrier's goal is to never have to actively use their gun.
The concealed carrier is relying upon their quick draw skills....that once the attack has already begun, they will be able to retrieve their gun from concealment and fire and hit their target, all with the speed necessary to do so before the criminal (who already has deployed their element of surprise to gain the upper hand to begin with) can react.
So, really.... who is acting more like John Wayne, Wyatt Earp and the wild west gunfighter? In reality it is the concealed carrier whose ONLY option is to play quick draw against a criminal.
So, you think it is a fair trade? The property owner does not respect your right to carry a firearm, so, in turn, you will not respect their right to control what comes on or stays off their property?
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