National concealed carry reciprocity act of 2017


The one question not asked/answered is:

Why is HR 38 based in Commerce Clause authorities of government to regulate instead of the Second Amendment rights of all citizens to be free of government intrusion?
Answer: Sorry. Too bad for you who revere your Second Amendment rights. We at GOA, like those at the NRA, don't care about your rights, we care about getting credit for supporting your rights, but what we're actually doing is trading your rights for the authority to regulate under the Commerce Clause of the federal government. By the time you realize what an awful mistake you've made by supporting this abortion of the Second Amendment, we'll be busy producing our next glossy 8 x 10 ad-copy to lie to you again about how we need more of your money so we can fix all that went wrong with National Reciprocity. And you suckers will buy it again hook, line and sinker. They say there's one of you born every minute. We're counting on it being closer to one every second. Thanks for your support!

Pffft.

Blues
Quoted for truth.
 

Sen. John Cornyn's Senate Bill 446, the National Conceal Carry Reciprocity Act of 2017 Senate version is in the Judiciary Committee with 37 Co-Sponsors pending further action.
 
Now we complete week 43 and begin week 44 of the Paul Ryan Sandbagging of HR38. He really needs to get lost, go back to Wisconsin and make cheese curds. Although he'd probably screw that up too!
 
Now we complete wee 43 and begin week 44 of the Paul Ryan Sandbagging of HR38. He really needs to get lost, go back to Wisconsin and make cheese curds. Although he'd probably screw that up too!
I hope you have to stay in your Socialist prison state and they continue to make you jump through hoops like a pet just to keep your piece. You'd gladly sacrifice and jeapordize the already tenuous "rights" the rest of us have with regards to reciprocity just so you can reach the next commie states you're surrounded by (excepting PA for barely acceptable).

I am honestly dismayed why you can't see the inherently dangerous flaws in such legislation. Smh.

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I hope you have to stay in your Socialist prison state and they continue to make you jump through hoops like a pet just to keep your piece. You'd gladly sacrifice and jeapordize the already tenuous "rights" the rest of us have with regards to reciprocity just so you can reach the next commie states you're surrounded by (excepting PA for barely acceptable).

I am honestly dismayed why you can't see the inherently dangerous flaws in such legislation. Smh.

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He doesn't care, all he cares about is HIS rights, not yours or mine, or the millions of others who carry.
 
He doesn't care, all he cares about is HIS rights, not yours or mine, or the millions of others who carry.
It's a completely neutral issue that should not have a liberal or conservative slant. But it does. Thank you American Education System.

99.99999% of legal and law abiding firearms owners think the same way we do. If my life goes the right way then not only will I never be on the wrong end of a criminal's gun but I'll be planted at a ripe old age never having had to use my firearm for anything but practice and training.

Why SR9 is so intent on the future abolition of our rights for the convenience of a moment in time "granted" to us by our omniscient nanny state is beyond me. I am always floored by such tunnel vision, the need for short term gratification, and political myopia to this degree. Consequences have a way of ambushing people in the future for the commission of past transgressions.

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I hope you have to stay in your Socialist prison state and they continue to make you jump through hoops like a pet just to keep your piece. You'd gladly sacrifice and jeapordize the already tenuous "rights" the rest of us have with regards to reciprocity just so you can reach the next commie states you're surrounded by (excepting PA for barely acceptable).

I am honestly dismayed why you can't see the inherently dangerous flaws in such legislation. Smh.

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I can CC or OC either one I please in my state, and CC in PA. so why can't I do it in all states.
 
I can CC or OC either one I please in my state, and CC in PA. so why can't I do it in all states.

So do you have a PA permit?

Four maps from four different sources show the states that honor DE carry permits, and NONE of your neighboring states honor DE permits.

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It is clear why you want to jeopardize the carry rights of millions and millions, because you are trapped in your tiny state and cannot cross the state line with your gun.
 
I can CC or OC either one I please in my state, and CC in PA. so why can't I do it in all states.
You cannot because your state is the same state that decided you need to post an ad in the newspaper to warn your neighbors that you desire to exercise your rights to bear arms. Right now you are held hostage by your state and your state only and they have "allowed" you to CC. For now.

The feds giveth and the feds taketh away if they get this law through. Right now they have no say in reciprocity other than LEOSA. If this passes, a new administration (or this one too😉), can strike once, and reciprocity will be dead across fifty states.

All it will take is one knee jerk reaction to a nut doing wrong with a firearm, Congress dwellers shaking hands behind closed doors, and the stroke of a pen. All of a sudden a citizen wanting to defend themselves, and their families, are outlaws. Trucks have killed hundreds across the world this past year and not a breath about "truck control". Because it's as irrational as people's fears of firearms, knives, appliances, power tools, heights, dogs, the ocean, and the Boogyman.

Your best bet is to hope this does not pass and get yourself a non resident Utah CC license which has reciprocity with many rational states, including PA I believe. The other two states that surround your state are as Communist as yours. Your state sucks SR9. It's no reflection on you, don't take it personally, and don't support this legislation. Move.
Or don't. But don't support jeopardizing others rights for the short term benefit of the few that live in those unconstitutional hellholes.



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So what you're saying is, I'm legal, and you're not.
What are you jabbering about? I am as legal and permitted as you are and likely more without getting into detail. Did you read anything in my response or are you just a dullard? If you are on heavy meds then you are excused but if you're not then get a clue. Some people's kids, smh.

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I h ave no interest in people like you and XD40. Know it all SOB.
I don't agree with XD all that much but at least he is capable of intelligent and independent thought. You just know you're a cheerleader for temporary freedom from the Orwellian state in which you reside.

The 40th anniversary of the Jonestown Cult Massacre is coming up on 8 November. You can remind yourself of the dangers of being a blind follower by continuing to just drink the National Reciprocity Kool Aid they need you to drink so badly. Guyana? Delaware? What's the difference?

I wouldn't waste a good curse such as SOB on the likes of a no knack like yourself. Payaso.

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So what you're saying is, I'm legal to carry in 25+ states, and you're not.

HUH? Looks like Tex can carry in about 36 states, and I can carry in 38. We do have the advantage that our neighbor states honor our permits.
 

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