Most Cops are Good?

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The nihilism shown by the comments on this thread are derived by current facts. Odds aren't facts, you keep fortressing in odds.

That's because the odds make the facts unworthy of consideration. The numbers simply weaken them to the point that concern becomes a complete waste of time. You can talk about the Asteroid hitting. It makes for interesting conversation....... For about 5 minutes. Then, much like fantasy, it becomes a complete waste of time if you carry on about it. Just like believing you're going to be whacked by a rogue cop. Unless you want to grieve on endlessly for the 1 victim a day out of the 319,000,000 who won't be effected in any way, shape, or form. You know, like the same broken record Deano keeps endlessly droning on about.
 
Many times I have seen posts, "I'm going to tell a cop right away about my permit and gun because I don't want them to be surprised if they see my gun and shoot me." Do you take such offense to that line of thinking billt?
 
Unless you want to grieve on endlessly for the 1 victim a day out of the 319,000,000.

1:319,000,000

Still wrong and unaceptable, in fact, one is too many and it might as well be IF that one have to be you for your family, which I hope, pray and wish, it never happen. Keep betting on you odds, hope you don't hit red, ever. If you do, no time to shift gears though.

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Here it goes number 2 of your 319,000,000

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1:319,000,000

Still wrong and unaceptable, in fact, one is too many and it might as well be IF that one have to be you for your family, which I hope, pray and wish, it never happen. Keep betting on you odds, hope you don't hit red, ever. If you do, no time to shift gears though.

BTW,

Here it goes number 2 of your 319,000,000

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The statistic that billt quoted, as usual, is B.S. anyway:
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There is no accurate tally of all the cases* of police shootings across the country, even deadly ones. The FBI maintains a national database of fatal shootings by officers but does not require police departments to keep it updated.
 
Many times I have seen posts, "I'm going to tell a cop right away about my permit and gun because I don't want them to be surprised if they see my gun and shoot me." Do you take such offense to that line of thinking billt?

Oh, heaven forbid YES! It infringes on my rights.
 
The statistic that billt quoted, as usual, is B.S. anyway:

You're not only full of B.S., your acting like an ignorant idiot at the same time. You're a typical cop basher. You don't like them. Because of that you only want to believe statistics that suit your cause and ignorant belief's. Too bad, life doesn't work that way. Anything that shows you how totally insignificant the reality is of you being killed by a cop, you are going to dismiss because you don't want to believe it. You'll cry and whine, "Lies, Lies!!", all the way. Just like the ball gag b!tch does in every post. These statistics are not hard to prove. They're simply factual numbers that are easily researched. They just happen to be numbers that don't suit you. Again, too bad.

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You've had X number of people killed by police officers since 9/11. You've got X number of people in this country. You don't like the numbers? Then you do the math. Christ, if you guys had anywhere near the amount of victims you claim, Deano wouldn't have to use the same 2 names over and over in his posts. Look up the numbers yourself if you don't like mine. They're not going to divide out any differently for you than they did me. The results you get won't suit your cause, but at least you won't look like the idiot you're acting like.
 
1:319,000,000

Still wrong and unaceptable, in fact, one is too many and it might as well be IF that one have to be you for your family..........]

I could say the exact same thing about Cancer. And it wouldn't hold any more weight, IF your chances of dying of it were the same as getting killed by a cop. But the fact is the odds are tremendously greater. If you only had a 1 in 319,000,000 chance of getting diagnosed with Cancer, how many would worry about it? You wouldn't. Neither would you worry for your family. It would be too insignificant to concern yourself with. How many would go for regular check ups? How many people would be bending over, having doctors shoving 5 feet of hose up their ass, with a camera on the end, looking for any signs of it? How about NONE. Or, in reality, about as many as worry about getting killed by cops.

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You may not like it, or want to accept it, but the fact is life revolves around odds. Everything we do. The greater the odds of something becoming harmful to you, the greater amount of attention it will receive as a direct result of those odds. It's why we spend billions of dollars on Cancer research, and billions more on automobile safety. Because people don't like the odds of what may happen to them involving driving one, or getting the other. If the odds were as insignificant as getting killed by a cop, how many people would donate to the American Cancer Society, or wear their seat belts? This reality is hard for you to accept. Otherwise you wouldn't argue so foolishly against it. But in this case, the odds far outshine your all but non existent facts. At least the facts you want to believe, by attempting to make an issue more significant than it really is.
 
billt is 100% OKAY with cops killing innocents because statistically, he is unlikely to be one of their victims..... While nearly everyone else who cares about people other than themselves are APPALLED and OUTRAGED that ANYONE gets KILLED by those who are supposed to be the "good guys" (and are defended as being so by those like billt). Talk about denying the truth....
 
billt is 100% OKAY with cops killing innocents because statistically, he is unlikely to be one of their victims..... While nearly everyone else who cares about people other than themselves are APPALLED and OUTRAGED that ANYONE gets KILLED by those who are supposed to be the "good guys" (and are defended as being so by those like billt). Talk about denying the truth....

I know it's way too much to ask of you, but it would really be nice if just once you would pull your head out of your ass, before you start typing. Show me where I ever said I was, "100% OK with cops killing innocents"? The only lies coming forth here are from YOU. I'll say this again, just for you because of your total blind ignorance. The odds of it happening are insignificant. It doesn't matter what I, or you, or anyone else thinks about it personally. Do I wish it would never happen? Most likely more than you could ever hope to. But once again, that stubborn reality bites you square in the ass. It's been happening since police departments were first created. And it will continue to happen as long as police departments exist.

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The FACTS are it happens in such small, insignificant numbers, people don't care. Is that selfish? Sure. But it's also human nature. Should it change? Of course. Will it change? Never. The fact is you and the rest of your bunch wouldn't even be discussing this if it weren't for Ferguson, the fat guy selling illegal cigarettes, and this other stupid clown who decided to try and out run a cops bullets. That, along with your total hatred for law enforcement. Much like the media, you feed off of this, and in the process try to make all of it more of a concern than it is. All to directly support your cop hating crusade.

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In reality you're much like the anti gunners. They distort facts and reality in order to suit their cause. In short, they LIE, just like you. They continually distort numbers and put words in peoples mouths, all the while ignoring proven facts, to try and convince others guns are more of a problem in society than they actually are. Just like you and your bunch do with police. Are guns used wrongly in society? Sure. Do police occasionally kill someone they shouldn't? Almost once a day, just like my numbers support. But the reality is, it is insignificant compared to all the good that cops do overall. Just like the majority of guns in private possession that will almost certainly never fire a shot in anger. Occasionally they do when they're in the wrong hands. And in the process kill someone they shouldn't. The exact same way a bad cop will when the badge is occasionally pinned on the wrong guy.
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The problem with everything I've just told you, is that all of it is based on common sense, reality, and facts. And as we all know from your past performance on this forum, that is a commodity that is in very short supply, when you get involved in ANY discussion. The problem with emotional idiots like yourself, is you dismiss all the good that cops do, in order to try and glorify, and bring more attention to the few bad ones who do exist. Again, just like the anti gunners. You're both two sides of a counterfeit coin. The facts don't fit your narrative, so you simply reject them, and in the process substitute lies. Again, just like the lying anti gunners. Too bad Sarah Brady is no longer with us. She would absolutely adore you. Both of you were cast from the same pathetic mold.
 
You've waived your right to be silent by running your mouth where it wasn't required by law.

He asked :

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Many times I have seen posts, "I'm going to tell a cop right away about my permit and gun because I don't want them to be surprised if they see my gun and shoot me." Do you take such offense to that line of thinking billt?

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I replied :

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Oh, heaven forbid YES! It infringes on my rights.

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As in, "Yes, I take offense to that line of thinking." How have I, "Run my mouth"? Are you having trouble reading the written word? Or are you having difficulty accepting reality, much like the Axeb!tch?
 
Oh, heaven forbid YES! It infringes on my rights.

Exactly what part of "I'm going to tell a cop right away about my permit and gun because I don't want them to be surprised if they see my gun and shoot me" is infringing upon anyone's rights - unless the basis of fear for their life is legitimate?

As in, "Yes, I take offense to that line of thinking." How have I, "Run my mouth"? Are you having trouble reading the written word? Or are you having difficulty accepting reality, like Axeb!tch?

What part do you take offense to? If you take offense to the part about the subject being afraid the cop will shoot him because you think it is unreasonable to have such a fear, than you invalidate your previous statements that someone's rights were infringed upon because the courts apply the "reasonable person" theory as in "would a reasonable person feel that their life is in danger." If the answer - as you have claimed in several pages of your post is that the reasonable person should not fear for their life during an encounter with a police officer - than using that fear as a basis to claim rights infringement is invalid.

If you take offense to the subject offering up their firearm for officer friendly to fondle, I have to ask why? You tell us we have nothing to fear from police officers....and rights cannot be violated when one voluntarily offers their gun to be fondled by officer friendly.
 
If I'm legally carrying concealed, it's not a requirement, or is it necessary to broadcast it at first opportunity. If a cop were to ask me, I wouldn't lie to him. I really can't make this any more simple than I have. This in spite of what your trying so desperately to read into all of it.
 
If I'm legally carrying concealed, it's not a requirement, or is it necessary to broadcast it at first opportunity. If a cop were to ask me, I wouldn't lie to him. I really can't make this any more simple than I have. This in spite of what your trying so desperately to read into all of it.

Officer friendly asks, "Sir, do you have any firearms or other weapons?"
You, "Yes, officer, I have a CCW/Pemit/License and I am carrying a handgun in a holster on my belt."
Officer friendly, "When I tell you to, you are going to exit the vehicle slowly, with your hands on your head. For my safety, I am going to frisk you for weapons, I am going to hold on to your gun for the rest of this stop, I am going to search the front area of your car, then you can get back in your car and we will go from there....OK?"

What's your answer billt? That OK with you? Does that violate your rights?
 
Officer friendly asks, "Sir, do you have any firearms or other weapons?"
You, "Yes, officer, I have a CCW/Pemit/License and I am carrying a handgun in a holster on my belt."
Officer friendly, "When I tell you to, you are going to exit the vehicle slowly, with your hands on your head. For my safety, I am going to frisk you for weapons, I am going to hold on to your gun for the rest of this stop, I am going to search the front area of your car, then you can get back in your car and we will go from there....OK?"

What's your answer billt? That OK with you? Does that violate your rights?

If you want to try and lead something along that bad, get a dog, and put a leash on him. You'll be able to take him anywhere you want to go. :rolleyes:
 
If you want to try and lead something along that bad, get a dog, and put a leash on him. You'll be able to take him anywhere you want to go. :rolleyes:

Why can't you give us an honest answer? Are the officer's actions OK with you or not? Do they violate your rights? What is your fear of answering simple yes or no questions?
 
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