Private property right(S) are just as much a right as are any of the other rights.
Again, we're not taking about- well, I'm not anyways, about all the other rights. That's your doing of lumping them all together. I don't agree with the right to create a dangerous gun free zone. Sadly you think a right is a right that deserves full recognition and respect as any other right just because someone says it's a right. I just can't believe you also put that right to gun free zones in the same boat that the right to bear arms sets in. Hmm.
Your not wanting to recognize them as valid while thinking the right to bear arms is valid is nothing more than picking and choosing which rights are convenient for you to personally like and which rights are inconvenient for you to have to deal with.
Wait, what's this "them" crap? There's only one right that I oppose and it's the right that takes my right away to defend myself. Listen, learn it, remember it.
But no, I don't recognize it because I think it's a right that doesn't deserve to exist. Because it's dangerous. You think that just because the property is privately owned that the same rules should apply like it was a private residence. Again, you're just blinded by the term "right", and that's it. That's all you care about. If people are allowed to enter the... establishment... at will, without screening, this right needs to cease to exist because it's usually after the fact of something horrible happening when these people lose their right to be in there.
Guess what? Anti gunners hypocritically use the right of free speech to do exactly that with the right to bear arms.
Guess what? I don't give a toot less what them anti-gunners think. They're ignorant. They think guns are the problem. They think people like you and me are the problem. You really going to come on a pro- 2nd amendment forum and defend the ignorance of the anti gunner liberals just to try and prove a point? Wow. Holy crap, wow.
And once again you try to control the conversation with silly things like hoping I won't respond. Sheesh.
Please tell me that was very poor attempt at humor and that you were only being facetious?
Just like last time and the time before that, that was only just me hoping you'd finally leave it alone for a change since we all know how vigilant you are about the right to create gun free zones and how hard you work to strike down all those that disagree.
Control the conversation....lol. Seriously? You got problems if you haven't figgered that out by now that that is hardly the case. You're free to make an idiot out of yourself all you want....[emoji6]
I suppose the next thing your gonna do is respin that other broken record of yours about how only the forum owner can control what you post and not me... with that fancy word decree that you liked using so much...lol.
No please, seriously, I wasn't asking for a, I dunno, what's the word for a three or four, or five times over encore? Whatever that is, I'm not asking for that.
I never said I believe gun free zones should be protected. I have steadfastedly maintained that RIGHTS should be protected.
Although yes, you have actually yet to state that you think gun free zones need to be protected and be allowed to flourish but...
WHAT... THE... HELL... DO YOU THINK IS GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN YOU SUPPORT THESE IDIOT'S RIGHTS TO MAKE AND KEEP ONE!?!?
How can you say you are so against a gun free zone but so viciously defend these idiot's right to have it?...
You can't be both!
You're doing and have been doing a wonderful job all this time at presenting your argument like youre in such support of the notion because you won't leave it alone. Most people say their peace... ONCE!!! ...and leave it the hell alone. Not you, tho. Not you.
All rights including the ones that are used in ways I don't agree with. Got that?
Whatever you say, pal. I highly disagree but whatever.
Let me spell it out for you since your comprehension skills seem to be lacking....
My comprehension skills are just fine, btw. I've just never talked to anyone so highstrung and hellbent on defending a right that allows the creation, such as a gun free zone..... which they don't agree with..[emoji848]
....I do not agree with private property owners denying entry to those who carry guns but I will defend their right to do so.
Why?
You know what, I don't care. I never have. You keep saying all this drivel like you really think I care. Lol.
And I, unlike you, will respect their right to do so by not patronizing their business.
Somewhat get it, but don't understand why and frankly don't care.
Oh and you can spare us all the self-righteousness...
And I won't support their use of their property right to deny entry to people who carry guns by sneaking my gun in concealed because it is convenient for me to purchase things there helping them increase their profits so they can open yet another business with a no guns policy/rule.
Do you really think you're preventing anything? Seriously? Do you really think that boneheaded store owner cares that you, a filthy gun owner isn't going to shop in his store anymore? Really? Wow. Wake up! If he cared about losing your business he wouldn't put that retarded sign up.
Why don't you just quit making things up and just stick to the real reasons why?
You're not doing a damn thing to prevent the furthering of gun free businesses. All you're doing is only punishing and inconveniencing yourself, and at the same time trying to get your martyr Merit Badge by trying to serve a purpose by trying to defend them. But it's cool because you're obviously ok with that. To each is own.
Oh, and why do you keep using the word "sneaking"? Are you trying to suggest that this is all a game, as in the prize is to not to get caught like back when ole Winona Ryder shoplifted all that stuff because it was fun to her and because she wanted to see if she could get away with it?
It's not a game. I don't carry in these "badguys welcome" places just to see if I can get away with it. I'm not "sneaking" my gun in, in the general sense, just because it's forbidden. That has not a single gottdamn thing to do with it. Matter of fact, gun free zones make me want to carry even more. I don't really need to anyways... but I will in a guns welcome store because a bad guy would have to be a fool to try to hold that place up. A place that declares them as unwelcome? Easy prey, buddy.
But in this thread, as in the other thread, you just can't seem to understand that it is your selfish position of "Hooray for my rights and to hell with the rights of other folks because it is inconvenient for me to respect them." that is what is wrong with this country.
You're wrong. That is your opinion and you have that right to it. Doesn't mean you're right, tho. Just means that it burns your backside that I disagree with you and you'll almost stop at nothing to argue your point and change my mind.
And again bud, stop referring to it as right-s. I'm sick of you trying to perceive me as someone who is against rights, all rights in general. That is not the case! That is your stubbornness that clouds your brain into thinking that because you think all rights are worthy and deserve respect because some bozo said so.
I. Am. Only. Talking. About. One. Specific. So-called. Right.
Call me selfish because I value my interest against unnecessary inconvenience all you want. It's none of your business what I do. You're not in the position to judge. Like I said, if it's ok with you to do so, YOU go right ahead. That's your business.
And this "concealed means concealed" sanctimonious crap is merely a way to disrespect the property rights of others...
SO!! Good!! Go tell it to somebody who cares.
But I ask ya... how do the property owners even know to care they are being disrespected if they do not know their ridiculous and unsafe right is being ignored? Oh wait, they DON'T!! This is just you AGAIN... as always, pushing the guilt trip on everyone...lol. That's all it is.
...just because it is convenient and easier to sneak...
There you go with that gratuitous use of the word "sneak" again. lol. Whatever, it's not sneaking but you fail to think otherwise.
...gun in justifying doing so with all manner of mental masturbatory gymnastics evident in every thread where the private property owner's right to deny entry to those who carry guns is discussed.
Holy crap, what the hell ever, man. Get a life.