tricolordad
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Spoken like a true police officer, not used to being AVERAGE once the shift is over. Careful with that mouth, without your uniform on you might be mistaken for a punching bag.
is .380 enough gun?
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tricolordad
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More proof of the effectiveness of .22lr, which will then validate the more powerful .380acp round for SD
Walther P22:
Kauhajoki school shooting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Virginia Tech massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Sawed off Ruger 10/22 & Ruger Mk II:
Kip Kinkel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Rohm RG-14:
Reagan assassination attempt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Quotes: "The Israeli military used a suppressed .22 LR rifle in the 1990s for riot control and to "eliminate disturbing dogs prior to operations", though it is now used less often as it has been shown to be more lethal than previously suspected.[14] "
" Suppressed Ruger MK II pistols were used by the US Navy SEALs in the 1990s.[15]"
Source of the quote: .22 Long Rifle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Kids kills mom and sister with .22 revolver:
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Walther P22:
Kauhajoki school shooting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Virginia Tech massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Sawed off Ruger 10/22 & Ruger Mk II:
Kip Kinkel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Rohm RG-14:
Reagan assassination attempt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Quotes: "The Israeli military used a suppressed .22 LR rifle in the 1990s for riot control and to "eliminate disturbing dogs prior to operations", though it is now used less often as it has been shown to be more lethal than previously suspected.[14] "
" Suppressed Ruger MK II pistols were used by the US Navy SEALs in the 1990s.[15]"
Source of the quote: .22 Long Rifle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Kids kills mom and sister with .22 revolver:
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schadenfreude
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Ah, there it is. It's always nice when I can "out" a "cop-hater" :wacko: with so little effort.
Citing Wikipedia in support of your ridiculous contention that .380 = .22 = "adequate for SD" is about as pathetic as pathetic gets. I didn't think that you could do any worse than your citation of M&S in support of your claim, but you proved that you could. Nice! Keep on digging- that shovel's getting shinier. :wink:
Larry Champion
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I was never very accurate when I fired the old .45. I now carry a .380 or 9mm. I contend that a miss with a .45 is somewhat less effective than a .380 in the right eye socket. YMMV.
tricolordad
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I don't hate cops, just pigs. Theres a difference between actual police officers and pigs. A police officer is respectful, courteous and professional and conveys himself in a professional manner and is quick to apologize when he was wrong...Ive met a few who are just as described. However, a pig is easy to spot because he's self absorbed, angry, foul mouthed and will try to convey his opinion or personal beliefs as law (or fact, in this case.). When proven wrong, a pig hurls insults and rehashes the same regurgitated garbage that got him into trouble in the first place. You are a pig. Anybody can get a pell grant and go to tech school for criminal justice. That's the problem.
tricolordad
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Wikipedia cites their sources. If you actually clicked the link, you would have seen that.
schadenfreude
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Sure you do.
Oh, like this?
Looks like you thought that you were the big authority here on the board 'til you were challenged. Your feelings got hurt and you became defensive showing yourself to be both poorly versed on the topic and a cop-hater. Keep up with the insults, they show everyone here just what you really are.
tricolordad
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Surely you thought because youre a "police officer" that everybody would respond with fear to your bravado which you resorted to when I challenged you to provide sources. I am not afraid of police, nor am I afraid of you. save your angry outbursts for somebody else. Instead of bashing on my sources, provide something in support of your own argument that would disspell them. I have been telling you from your first post in this thread to provide a source. Do it already! I think you'll find that the majority of americans are hostile to your loud mouthed childish attitude. I called you out, I called BS on your argument which has nothing to back it up. Now do something other than grandstand.
schadenfreude
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I am glad to hear that you aren't afraid of me. I hate cowards. I've already provided sources (Roberts, Fackler, Schwartz, MacPherson, et al). If you are unable to read or understand what they've written on the matter...well, that's simply not my problem. Perhaps you should've paid more attention in school.
Your continued insistence that .22 = "adequate for self-defense" = .380 suggests an extremely limited perspective of the issue and is one that would benefit greatly from less bluster and more study. Of course, this pattern of behavior is typical of every cop-hater that I've ever known, but I digress.
tricolordad
Banned
Blah blah blah...
So if I shoot at someone with a .45 and miss and he hits me twice with a .32 does caliber still matter? Or does his SHOT PLACEMENT trump it all? Think hard...
SGB
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So if you shoot someone with a .22 and miss.....................
Rocketgeezer
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tricolordad
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Redundant. If i miss then i miss. If youre not making hits, your .45 doesnt matter.
Schadenfreude, Im watching the Drew Petersen movie, it reminds me of you.
schadenfreude
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Nice. As I said earlier, keep up with the persistent insults and childish behavior.
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It simply confirms to anyone reading this thread that you are every bit the angry cop-hater that you say you aren't.
tricolordad
Banned
Ssshhhhhhh...take your nap.
My observations:
First, there's nothing quite so pathetic as someone who makes threats on the internet. Mistaken for a punching bag, indeed.
Second, my experience with various .380s has shown me that they require a lot more focus on trigger control than my 1911s to get shots on target. Even my P238. And they are a lot snappier due to size and weight.
I question whether in the heat of battle I can attain that degree of trigger control, given the physical reactions that are widely documented to occur at that level of stress.
Third, expecting to reliably deliver a shot to the eye (or ocular cavity) is unrealistic. Refer to point the second.
My plan is to aim center mass. Body armor or no.
Fourth - Yeah, a .22 can kill someone given the correct shot placement. So can a bow and arrow. Or a rock.
I don't carry either one of those for self defense either.
I know my limits; therefore I don't normally carry a .380.
All that said, I sure wouldn't turn my nose up at one if that's all I had at hand!
First, there's nothing quite so pathetic as someone who makes threats on the internet. Mistaken for a punching bag, indeed.
Second, my experience with various .380s has shown me that they require a lot more focus on trigger control than my 1911s to get shots on target. Even my P238. And they are a lot snappier due to size and weight.
I question whether in the heat of battle I can attain that degree of trigger control, given the physical reactions that are widely documented to occur at that level of stress.
Third, expecting to reliably deliver a shot to the eye (or ocular cavity) is unrealistic. Refer to point the second.
My plan is to aim center mass. Body armor or no.
Fourth - Yeah, a .22 can kill someone given the correct shot placement. So can a bow and arrow. Or a rock.
I don't carry either one of those for self defense either.
I know my limits; therefore I don't normally carry a .380.
All that said, I sure wouldn't turn my nose up at one if that's all I had at hand!
