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You do not have to present your carry permit to the officer in Idaho unless it's a very recent change.
I don't understand how it is courtesy to notify an officer. Is it courtesy to tell him you have a carton of milk and a box of twinkies?[/QUOTE]
Yes, it's a courtesy. You should phrase this as, "Officer, I have some milk and a box of Twinkies. Would you like some?"
You do not have to present your carry permit to the officer in Idaho unless it's a very recent change.
I don't understand how it is courtesy to notify an officer. Is it courtesy to tell him you have a carton of milk and a box of twinkies?
You do not have to present your carry permit to the officer in Idaho unless it's a very recent change.
I don't understand how it is courtesy to notify an officer. Is it courtesy to tell him you have a carton of milk and a box of twinkies?[/QUOTE]
Yes, it's a courtesy. You should phrase this as, "Officer, I have some milk and a box of Twinkies. Would you like some?"
With my luck, I'd be arrested for bribing an officer.
As long as you are not involved in criminal activty there will be no problem:no:
Hear, hear queball!! Having come up in a family of LEO's, I was taught to respect all LEO's. Keep your hands in plain sight, answer all questions "Yes, Sir" and "No, Sir." Even if you choose to disagree - disagree RESPECTFULLY. That being said, if a LEO chooses to disarm me for the duration of our transaction, so be it. HE still has a gun, and I sincerely doubt that someone is going to take him out, then me, in those few minutes. Yes, there are a few jerks working in Law Enforcement - it's inevitable, the law of odds and all that - but even if you don't respect the man wearing it, respect the badge.
I would have mixed feelings about an officer disarming me after he's been notified that I'm cc during a routine traffic stop. Believe it or not, a lot of LEO are not "gun" people. Meaning, they qualify with it and that's about it. What if a rookie decides he wants to do so, but his familiarity is with glock and he disarms me of a 1911 that he may or may not be familiar with? All of the variables make me shudder. Just saying, I have mixed feelings about it.
The vast majority (I do not say all, but the vast majority) of LEO are CCW friendly, and should be assumed as such.
Guess what, by law, your local LEO can write you up for doing 36MPH in a 35MPH zone, but, as a courtesy to you, 99+% of them will not do it. Unless you are over 40MPH, they probably won't even bother pulling you over to warn you.
Call it a common courtesy, whatever, but most of the LEO's out there are on OUR side. Treat them as such, and give them the benefit of the doubt. There are way too many people that seem to constantly be "hearing the black choppers".
Why assume the best situation? I always assume the worst so that I'm prepared for it, and if it turns out better, it's a good surprise. Also, the job of the police is no longer to promote the peace -- it is to enforce the law. Huge difference. Their job is now to figure out whether or not I'm breaking any laws so they can arrest me. I'd rather not give them any reason to be paranoid enough to come up with something.
I doubt it's a courtesy. Yes, they can give you a ticket for 1 MPH over the limit, but they don't because they all know that there is a good chance it'll be thrown out in court. 1 MPH is a minor difference and can easily be thwarted by the argument of "is your equipment calibrated and guaranteed to be accurate to such an extreme precision?". No technology really is, so they don't bother. They usually give 5 MPH because that's a good number to be over without their radar guns or whatever being questioned.
Guess what, by law, your local LEO can write you up for doing 36MPH in a 35MPH zone, but, as a courtesy to you, 99+% of them will not do it.
Maybe it is because I am in a gun friendly state (Utah), but I see way too much paranoia about this subject. The vast majority (I do not say all, but the vast majority) of LEO are CCW friendly, and should be assumed as such. Notifying IS a courtesy, and I will always do it, no matter where I am. That is just me, do as you will.
You are right, that in most places, by law, you are not required to do so. Guess what, by law, your local LEO can write you up for doing 36MPH in a 35MPH zone, but, as a courtesy to you, 99+% of them will not do it. Unless you are over 40MPH, they probably won't even bother pulling you over to warn you. Call it a common courtesy, whatever, but most of the LEO's out there are on OUR side. Treat them as such, and give them the benefit of the doubt. There are way too many people that seem to constantly be "hearing the black choppers".
Hear, hear queball!! Having come up in a family of LEO's, I was taught to respect all LEO's. Keep your hands in plain sight, answer all questions "Yes, Sir" and "No, Sir." Even if you choose to disagree - disagree RESPECTFULLY. That being said, if a LEO chooses to disarm me for the duration of our transaction, so be it. HE still has a gun, and I sincerely doubt that someone is going to take him out, then me, in those few minutes. Yes, there are a few jerks working in Law Enforcement - it's inevitable, the law of odds and all that - but even if you don't respect the man wearing it, respect the badge.
Sorry, and no offense intended whatsoever, but after reading your responses, I think that you are far more paranoid than any LEO I have come across.
There is a big difference between going into a situation with a good attitude (does not stop you from being keenly aware of surroundings and circumstances) and expecting the worse. It is overly defensive attitudes that can cause LEO's to cop (no pun intended) a bit of an attitude.
A good friend of mine always tells me (and I am learning to believe it) that "98% of what you worry about never happens". It is possible to live by this thought, while still being aware of and ready for the other 2%. Being ready for that 2% is what situational awareness is all about... Expecting and bracing for the 2% is defined as paranoia.
I have had three LEO encounters since I have been carrying. Just traffic or equipment issues.
There is no requirement to inform here in NY.
Each time I handed the officer my DL and CCW. Each time I was handed back the CCW with a thank you and treated with complete respect.
The last encounter was with a very young State Trooper. He shook my hand and told me to watch my speed.
WOW, you have a NY CCW? Who do you know in a high place?
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