Pinnacle Safety
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Hey when does HR 822 go into effect
Hr 822
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Armed_and_Safe
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The senate is the problem. It probably wont even get scheduled to be debated. Obummer vetoing it is not a concern. We all know he would love to but it was always the plan to attach it to some legislation he cannot veto.Just give the tyrant another trillion to waste and he will sign a bill giving his wife and daughter's to the Chinese.
cgiven1
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Perhaps with some creative law-making we might see it next year. My scenario sees the senate getting to add it as an amendment to another bill that he really wants. It is gong to be an election year after all and he needs things to show he deserves reelection. If they pass the exact same version as the house it doesn't need to go to a joint committe to work out differences. Then get it to Obama's desk just before the election. His desire to fool gun owners into voting for him may just get it passed.
H.R. 822 has Passed in the House and has been sent to the Senate. On 11/17/2001 it is reported as received in the Senate, read twice and assigned to the Committee on the Judiciary.
In the Senate, unlike in the House, the Democrats are now the majority party. That means the Chairs of Senate Committees (and sub-committees) are Democrats. Committee Chairs (and sub-committe chairs) have the power to determine which pieces of legislation are considered by "their" committee. If the Committee (or sub-committee) holds no hearings on a measure before the Senate Session ends, then the legislation dies in Committee. If a Committee or sub-committee takes up a measure they may recommend amendments in committee before voting to send the bill to the floor of the Senate (or not). Depending upon "Rules", the measure may be further amended on the floor of the Senate - or not - before the Senate votes on the measure.
Passage of H.R. 822 in the Senate would send it to President Obama's desk for signature or Veto.
Veto could ONLY be over-ridden by a 2/3 vote in BOTH the House and a 2/3 vote in the Senate. Historically, Congress has overridden fewer than ten percent of Presidential vetoes.
Indeed, the short answer is that H.R. 822 has a long, long way to go before it becomes the law of the land.
In the Senate, unlike in the House, the Democrats are now the majority party. That means the Chairs of Senate Committees (and sub-committees) are Democrats. Committee Chairs (and sub-committe chairs) have the power to determine which pieces of legislation are considered by "their" committee. If the Committee (or sub-committee) holds no hearings on a measure before the Senate Session ends, then the legislation dies in Committee. If a Committee or sub-committee takes up a measure they may recommend amendments in committee before voting to send the bill to the floor of the Senate (or not). Depending upon "Rules", the measure may be further amended on the floor of the Senate - or not - before the Senate votes on the measure.
Passage of H.R. 822 in the Senate would send it to President Obama's desk for signature or Veto.
Veto could ONLY be over-ridden by a 2/3 vote in BOTH the House and a 2/3 vote in the Senate. Historically, Congress has overridden fewer than ten percent of Presidential vetoes.
Indeed, the short answer is that H.R. 822 has a long, long way to go before it becomes the law of the land.
Adding to the above post if the Senate passes the exact bill sent to them then it goes to the President for his signature. If the Senate makes any amendments then it goes back to the House for approval. If they cannot agree then a joint committee may be appointed to come up with a solution and then have to be passed by both the House and Senate.. A long, Long way to go.
weekendskp
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The Message is loud and clear: "Stay the hell out of New York. FEDERAL Laws protecting the right of nonresident gun owners to transport their legally owned, unloaded, properly secured handguns DO NOT apply here."
Mr. Meckler MAY be lucky enough to get the charges droopped AFTER he spends considerable money on a good lawyer.
Unfortunately, getting New York to recognize FEDERAL law in this particular matter will involve considerable expense of both time and resources far beyond the reach of most ordinary citizens. If the Feds can sue Arizona for trying to help the US Government enforce immigration law, why can't they sue New York for breaking FEDERAL law?
Meanwhile, where should we send our "No Guns = No Money" cards? Mayor Bloomberg? NY Governor? Airport Managers at JFK, La Guardia, etc.?
12/18/2011 UPDATE: It appears Mr Meckler was in NY for too long a period to be under the protection of the Firearms Owners Protection Act, as his lwayer now states.
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