HomeDepot anti-gun policy


Javy said:
Without job, no home, no security. No family. You have to keep your job to have a decent home, a decent neighborhood, a decent food and a decent security. So follow instructions if they fire you your family will be destroyed...
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Funny thing about jobs... I was looking for one when I found this one. Have been through a good few in my life and hasn't destroyed my family.

Getting shot at 2am cause my company doesn't want a weapon in there truck might destroy it though.

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Kalashnikova said:
I work at a HomeDepot in New Mexico, an open carry state. This last Saturday I heard that an employee was being terminated for keeping a firearm in his vehicle while at work. Now we have been "advised" that not only are we not allowed to keep firearms in our vehicles while on the clock but no associate can carry open or conceal carry in the store, even if they have a permit, on their day off if they come shop at HomeDepot. Also, associates can not leave a firearm in the vehicle while shopping at HomeDepot on their day off, to do so will result in termination.
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There's no signs at my Home Depot. So I carry in.
I have been buying more stuff at Ace Hardware lately though. I think they are a franchise.
At least, the one by me has "Burdett's Ace Hardware" on the building. So I try to shop as much as I can there as opposed to Home Depot and Lowes.
I like to support local businesses when I can.
 
Have you folks checked with the Attorney General for NM? Disney lost their attempt to control personal property inside your private vehicle while on their property quite a few years ago. Does NM allow unwarranted searches? If the Police are called and you do not consent to a search of your vehicle, they need probable cause. I do not think he said she said he has a gun in his trunk is probable cause in most places.

Now, your boss can make life difficult if they suspect you are not following the company policy, but that just gives you time to find a reasonable employer.

Safety first.
 
This is relative. It is very different to lose a job because they discovered you are carrying, that quitting for another job who allowed carry. It also is going to depend in the type of job you are searching. But believe me if they fire you you are going to suffer. No income, mtg, no previous job reference or bad reference....
 
I shop my local Home Depot. I have, and will in the future, carry inside HD. It's CONCEALED, which means that no one but me knows it's there. I've never seen any signs at the entrance, and even if I did, would probably still carry. In my state, if I carry inside places where there are signs telling me the business does not want me to carry (like movie theaters), I can only be asked to leave. If I choose not to, it's only trespassing - a misdemeanor. Haven't been confronted yet. I'll continue my present behavior, unless and until I do get confronted.
 
I think we are overlooking the fact that this is not only Home Depot's property but they can make any policy that want towards employees on Home Depot property. I can guarantee anyone 110% Home Depot has a Corporate Policy regarding bringing weapons or guns to work.
 
ZoSo925 - EVEN when off work? Come on, I don't think we have Company Stores any longer, do we? That is just plain wrong.

Also, a LOT of big box stores have sites that are shopping centers where the parking lot is common to MANY businesses.
 
The guy should see a lawyer. I ran across this - Link Removed

It's a complex situation and also depends if the State has any laws regarding bringing gun to work. I don't think many states have a law like that.

In the past Ive seen Corporate policies state rules apply even when off duty and visiting..etc I'm kinda leaning towards this person was a bad egg to begin with. How would his job know he had a gun in his car. Is he the type that babbles a lot and brags he always carries a gun around and maybe even showed it off from his car?
 
Pretty lame that you can't keep it in your car. Here they can't tell you crap unless you park in secure parking. Even if on their property. Colorado recognizes your vehicle as an extension of your home and people can even ride around anywhere in the state with a loaded sidearm. Now of course they can search your vehicle provided you are on their property, but they cannot hold a weapon against you; it's more so to look for stolen office items, at least that is my understanding of it. However, now that reefer is decriminalized here, I have no clue on how that would work out. lol
 
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This person got his job back. Apparently someone higher on the corporate later thought a law suit against HD over the matter would not be a good decision. The company refused to give him copies of all the papers on the issue but the no firearms signs are gone too, so this ended up well. He was still told not to bring his gun and leave it in the car or to park in the Dicks parking next door.
 
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How the hell did they discover the guy had a gun in his personal vehicle? None of their business, it is personal property, even while parked on their property.

I teach part time at a local college, and they are over the top on being a tobacco free campus (which I have no problem with), but they have silently admitted that a students or staff's vehicle is their property, and if they want to sit in their car and smoke, it is beyond the prevue of the campus police to challenge.

Now I can't even have my gun secured in my car and park on campus, but that is state law (which hopefully will get changed soon).

But still no search warrant, no lookie in my car.
 
Didn't see the update...that's cool still sucks it happened!!! Man I never thought this kind of crap could happen to me!! I have been there over 5 years, have earned my platinum Homer badge, and Fossil watch for busting my ass for this company! I have many customers as well as associates who are also gun people who look forward to seeing, and talking with me. I get along with just about everyone I work with. Now I could swear a couple years ago a judge somewhere in Florida where I happen to live ruled at a HD that tried to fire an associate with a ccw for keeping a weapon in his car, that he was ok because the car was his property. I searched and searched but can't seem find it anywhere. I have been told I can't have it in my car recently so I had been looking for that story from somewhere in Florida at a HD. I have been struggling to keep my property after losing my Mom's manufactured home, lived in a toy hauler, an RV, a camper till the county fined me for living in a 5th wheel on my own dam property, and put me into a tent the week of Christmas!! All the while I still went to work and worked circles around folks half my age. Is this what the founders of this country had in mind for working folks who are struggling??? In my 5 years at depot I have made many friends and many are also gun enthusiasts like myself who know I am a ccw holder, and carry my 1911 when I am NOT at work! Including my store manager (a Glock guy), who has talked guns with me many times. Someone decided to tell my job they were in fear of their safety...from me...and that I brought my gun to work, and a whole bunch of stuff which is a complete lie, as anyone who actually knows me can attest to. Based on no fact, admittedly no threats from me to anyone, I now have to see a "counselor", be tested for alcohol and drugs, yet I have never shown up for work on either...I am missing a weeks pay already and possibly my job, having to see a counselor before I can return to work IF at all !! I have just been diagnosed with a tumor and everyone knows I will probably need surgery, now I may NOT have the insurance to get it. Someone is out for my job and they are using my firearms to get it! I am a legal gun owner enthusiast, and was actually at the range that day prior to work legally using my guns, which were then brought home by my shooting buddy. I did nothing wrong didn't even have my gun at work and got walked to my locker (to see IF I had my 1911) got asked where my backpack (I usually ride a motorcycle, so I use backpacks) was, then walked out the door like a dam criminal...IDK what I'm gonna do I can't afford a lawyer or none of that, though folks have told me I need one. I just want to work for a living, and I went in to work like always now IDK!!!
 
Everyone says boycott home depot. I have to ask how they knew he had a gun in his car?????????????????? While I prefer Lowe's, my local Home Deport has no signs or other warning about guns. Nada.
 
Seeya said:
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If your state allows concealed carry, then firing an employee who is licensed to carry, just because he or she keeps a gun in the car while parked at work, may invite a wrongful discharge suit. | Employment Law Daily
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Some states are employment at will. There is no right to work. Even in right-to-work states the employee handbook, which is a contract between a new hire and the company, specifically states no guns... as do most employee handbooks. Most also contain a provision that violations of the terms therein may result in termination. He agreed to the terms by accepting the job. Violate the contract and you're gone. There is no second amendment right to carry in any privately owned facility.
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In most states I need not tell you why I'm letting you go. I watch company after company cause themselves trouble with this. I normally would call you in, give you your record of employment, outstanding pay, vacation, sick time and thanks for your service. "Am I being fired?" Well, I just won't be needing you anymore, thanks. Lawyer calls? Yes counselor I just didn't need him anymore. NEVER give an employee a reason why he's being let go. Thanks, goodbye. Sue if you don't like it. It's a loser.
 
I didn't have it in my car or in the store! And rumors around the store are that I got walked out over a gun! A gun which wasn't even there!!
 
rchamberlain said:
I'm not sure about other states but in Washington if it is private property they can do whatever they want about allowing firearms. I just take my business other places.
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Actually, I do not believe that you are correct. In Washington state, there is no provision for a business owner to restrict concealed carry holders authorized under RCW 9.41.042, and no provisions to restrict open carry unless you create a "warranting alarm".

Under Federal law a private residence can be restricted if any notice is given (verbal or posted sign), but that does not apply to private businesses.

However, an employer can restrict what their employees do during business hours but not their actions when not at work. An employer can also restrict an employee from keeping a firearm in the employees personal vehicle ONLY IF the employees have a parking lot that is separate from the general public and also used as a secure work area.
 
HD is a private company. It is not a public place. It is not the government. It is not required to allow you to carry a gun in it's store... you have no second amendment rights there. Now, you take a job with HD. You're given an employee handbook. That handbook, which is an agreed-upon contract between you and the company says no guns on premises. You voluntarily choose to break the contract and terms of employment. New Mexico is not a "right-to-work" state, as if that would even matter. I would give the employee his last paycheck and a kiss goodbye. I'm certainly not afraid of some hair-brained lawsuit trying to turn this into anything other than direct insubordination and refusal to comply with company policy... provided the person in fact was carrying the gun at work and provided the company policy does not violate federal provisions allowing the gun to be sored in the vehicle.
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One of the things that makes America great is that I don't have to allow you to do anything I don't like on my own property. Break the rules and I can escort you out by the ear... out you go junior. Next time respect my property.
 
weissr said:
Under Federal law a private residence can be restricted if any notice is given (verbal or posted sign), but that does not apply to private businesses.
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I believe this is actually split between car and in-store. There is no federal law that prohibits me from giving you the boot from my store. I need not even give a reason. Just get out or be charged with trespass. However, I believe the gun may be kept in the car and that no employment policy may prohibit that.
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Fed HB2052 effective 7/1/13
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(a) Provided that the premises are conspicuously posted in accordance
with rules and regulations adopted by the attorney general as premises
where carrying a concealed handgun is prohibited, no license issued
pursuant to or recognized by this act shall authorize the licensee to carry a
concealed handgun into any building.
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(b) Nothing in this act shall be construed to prevent:
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(1) Any public or private employer from restricting or prohibiting by
personnel policies persons licensed under this act from carrying a
concealed handgun while on the premises of the employer's business or
while engaged in the duties of the person's employment by the employer,
except that no employer may prohibit possession of a handgun in a private
means of conveyance, even if parked on the employer's premises; or
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(2) any private business or city, county or political subdivision from
restricting or prohibiting persons licensed or recognized under this act
from carrying a concealed handgun within a building or buildings of such
entity, provided that the premises are posted in accordance with rules and
regulations adopted by the attorney general pursuant to subsection (f)
(h),as premises where carrying a concealed handgun is prohibited.
 
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