Getting gun from car to hotel room

[gvaldeg1]

I have both Arizona and Utah CCWs but neither are recognized in Nevada (Utah was dropped from the list July 1st). I travel to Nevada frequently. I know that it's OK to carry a loaded gun in a vehicle in Nevada but, now that neither of my permits is recognized, how do I get the gun from the car into my hotel room. (I don't like locking guns in the car.) I know that I could open carry legally in Nevada but this could cause a stir in most places so I won't do that. I've read that carrying in a container which is held like a briefcase is concealed carry. What about zipping the gun into an inside pocket in a suitcase that clearly isn't readily accessible? (Also, the suitcase is on wheels so technically it won't be carried.) Would this be OK or is it concealed carry? I'd like to hear what some on you that live in Nevada thinks. Thanks!

 

[Debray]

I have both Arizona and Utah CCWs but neither are recognized in Nevada (Utah was dropped from the list July 1st). I travel to Nevada frequently. I know that it's OK to carry a loaded gun in a vehicle in Nevada but, now that neither of my permits is recognized, how do I get the gun from the car into my hotel room. (I don't like locking guns in the car.) I know that I could open carry legally in Nevada but this could cause a stir in most places so I won't do that. I've read that carrying in a container which is held like a briefcase is concealed carry. What about zipping the gun into an inside pocket in a suitcase that clearly isn't readily accessible? (Also, the suitcase is on wheels so technically it won't be carried.) Would this be OK or is it concealed carry? I'd like to hear what some on you that live in Nevada thinks. Thanks!

I had a little bit of the same problem when traveling in Illinois delivering sheep from Ohio. Before entering Illinois I stopped and put my CC in a compartment in the back of my vehicle, and kept the magazine in my pocket.
When we stopped for the night I put the pistol in my zip up camera case and carried it in with my suit cases. As soon as I got in the motel, I reloaded and put it back where it belonged.
I'm not sure this is to letter of the law, but I also didn’t want to leave my CC in the vehicle.

Last Summer we went to Atlantic City for a vacation and stopped on the way at King of Persha, New Jersey for the night.
I woke up at my normal 4:30 AM and looked outside to see police cars everywhere.
I got dressed and walked out into the motel hallway to find a swat officer standing there, he asked where I was going. I told him down to the lobby, he said if you go down you can’t come back up. I told him my wife was in the room and I would just stay where I’m at.
I told my wife to get ready I don’t know what is going on but we are leaving. When we got down to the parking lot there were residence sitting every where and the police had the building surrounded, al;l exits blocked, and a swat team with an armored vehicle was at the far end of the parking lot aiming up at the motel. The officers removed their barricade and let us out, in the parking lot next door it looked like an Army of swat teams and local police. The next morning I picked up a paper in Atlantic City and found that there was an armed bank robber hold up in the motel and had given up after a 16 hour stand off.

“It’s better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

 

[gvaldeg1]

I had a little bit of the same problem when traveling in Illinois delivering sheep from Ohio. Before entering Illinois I stopped and put my CC in a compartment in the back of my vehicle, and kept the magazine in my pocket.
When we stopped for the night I put the pistol in my zip up camera case and carried it in with my suit cases. As soon as I got in the motel, I reloaded and put it back where it belonged.
I'm not sure this is to letter of the law, but I also didn’t want to leave my CC in the vehicle.

Last Summer we went to Atlantic City for a vacation and stopped on the way at King of Persha, New Jersey for the night.
I woke up at my normal 4:30 AM and looked outside to see police cars everywhere.
I got dressed and walked out into the motel hallway to find a swat officer standing there, he asked where I was going. I told him down to the lobby, he said if you go down you can’t come back up. I told him my wife was in the room and I would just stay where I’m at.
I told my wife to get ready I don’t know what is going on but we are leaving. When we got down to the parking lot there were residence sitting every where and the police had the building surrounded, al;l exits blocked, and a swat team with an armored vehicle was at the far end of the parking lot aiming up at the motel. The officers removed their barricade and let us out, in the parking lot next door it looked like an Army of swat teams and local police. The next morning I picked up a paper in Atlantic City and found that there was an armed bank robber hold up in the motel and had given up after a 16 hour stand off.

“It’s better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

Thanks Debray! The idea of having it unloaded is a great one. Does anyone from Nevada know if it's OK to carry an unloaded gun fron a car into a hotel room?

 

[Quiet]

It's legal to transport unloaded firearms in a locked container from your vehicle to your hotel room.

 

[gvaldeg1]

It's legal to transport unloaded firearms in a locked container from your vehicle to your hotel room.

Thanks Quiet! Do you have a reference or link or something that shows that this is legal in Nevada. It sounds like a good solution to me. I always carry a lockable gun container when I travel for places like California.

 

[calmp9]

Thanks Quiet! Do you have a reference or link or something that shows that this is legal in Nevada. It sounds like a good solution to me. I always carry a lockable gun container when I travel for places like California.

That's going to be a headache. I go through that here all the time since I do not have a CCW. I can't get one because my county sheriff has declared that I do not show sufficient cause.

If you can, you're better off getting your nonresident Nevada CFP since you go there all the time. Then, you won't have to worry about that kind of stuff.

Good luck!

 

[LVLouisCyphre]

Unload it, put it in your luggage then take it up to your room inside of the luggage. When you get to your room, load it.

 

[gvaldeg1]

Unload it, put it in your luggage then take it up to your room inside of the luggage. When you get to your room, load it.

Thanks! That's the way I'll do it. Right now I'm working with the Arizona Concealed Weapons Permit Unit to get their CWP data base established on the National Law Enforcement Telecommunications System (NLETS) so that Nevada Law enforcement will have 24/7 access to the Arizona database. The Director of the Nevada Chief's and Sheriff's Assoc. (Frank Adams) said that they will consider recognizing Arizona permits if this is implemented.

 

[pb_beaker]

Hey everyone, I hate to hijack the thread but I have a similar question. I have an Arizona CCW permit and am looking into getting one for Nevada because I also dont want to leave my gun in the car. Whats the laws say about carrying concealed inside the casino till you get to your room?

Any info on what the turn around time on a Nevada CWP is?

 

[LVLouisCyphre]

Hey everyone, I hate to hijack the thread but I have a similar question. I have an Arizona CCW permit and am looking into getting one for Nevada because I also dont want to leave my gun in the car. Whats the laws say about carrying concealed inside the casino till you get to your room?

Illegal. Technically under NRS 202.350 you can't carry concealed anywhere even your domicile or place of business without a NV CFP or one that is on the NV DPS recognition list if you are not a Nevada resident. Unload it and put it in your luggage as if you were declaring it in checked baggage to fly out of Nevada.

Do I think you'd beat the wrap if you were charged with illegal CCW in your domicile or place of business, yes because of private property rights. This is another ambiguity that needs to be corrected in our CCW statute.

Any info on what the turn around time on a Nevada CWP is?

My renewal took 90 days because of an issue with LVMPD losing fingerprints for everyone who was fingerprinted in October 2008. It would have taken 60 days otherwise. I've heard that some applications have been processed within 30 days. However keep in mind that I've been in Nevada since Sept 1992 and one of the support technicians commented that my background check was easy to do because of my length of residency in Nevada.

 

[ADJ423]

Hey everyone, I hate to hijack the thread but I have a similar question. I have an Arizona CCW permit and am looking into getting one for Nevada because I also dont want to leave my gun in the car. Whats the laws say about carrying concealed inside the casino till you get to your room?

Any info on what the turn around time on a Nevada CWP is?

It is perfectly legal to cc in a casino in NV as long as you have a permit recognized by NV. The only places prohibited in NV are airports, gov't buildings, schools and daycares. I carry in the casinos all the time. Not just walking to the room but eating at their restraunts, playing blackjack, whatever. All they can do is ask you to leave IF they even notice you are carrying as long as you are legal.

 

[pb_beaker]

It is perfectly legal to cc in a casino in NV as long as you have a permit recognized by NV. The only places prohibited in NV are airports, gov't buildings, schools and daycares. I carry in the casinos all the time. Not just walking to the room but eating at their restraunts, playing blackjack, whatever. All they can do is ask you to leave IF they even notice you are carrying as long as you are legal.

Thats exactly what I wanted to know. When I read the laws thats what i got out of it but just wanted to make sure about casinos.

 

[gdcleanfun]

It is perfectly legal to cc in a casino in NV as long as you have a permit recognized by NV. The only places prohibited in NV are airports, gov't buildings, schools and daycares. I carry in the casinos all the time. Not just walking to the room but eating at their restraunts, playing blackjack, whatever. All they can do is ask you to leave IF they even notice you are carrying as long as you are legal.

Why not just strap it on your belt or leg or arm or ankle and wear it from the car to the room. It's legal to open carry in a casino in Nevada, you don't need a permit to open carry, and yes, all they can do is ask you to leave.

 

[pb_beaker]

Why not just strap it on your belt or leg or arm or ankle and wear it from the car to the room. It's legal to open carry in a casino in Nevada, you don't need a permit to open carry, and yes, all they can do is ask you to leave.

Thats a good idea, didnt even think of it. On another note, whats the best way to carry in the car?

 

[gdcleanfun]

Thats a good idea, didnt even think of it. On another note, whats the best way to carry in the car?

Nevada law allows a firearm to be carried in one's car because a car is considered an extension of one's home. That firearm can be in plain sight or concealed in the glove box or under the seat, etc. However, it cannot be concealed on your person while you are in the car unless you have a CC permit. The best way to carry in a car, then, is up to you as long as it is not concealed on, under, or touching your body. (That's the way a Sheriff's Deputy explained it to me. I'm not an LEO so don't quote me. Research this yourself and don't shoot the messenger! :biggrin::fie

 

[LVLouisCyphre]

Nevada law allows a firearm to be carried in one's car because a car is considered an extension of one's home. That firearm can be in plain sight or concealed in the glove box or under the seat, etc. However, it cannot be concealed on your person while you are in the car unless you have a CC permit. The best way to carry in a car, then, is up to you as long as it is not concealed on, under, or touching your body. (That's the way a Sheriff's Deputy explained it to me. I'm not an LEO so don't quote me. Research this yourself and don't shoot the messenger! :biggrin::fie

Not shooting the messenger, however I am an instructor on the LVMPD approved Nevada CFP instructor list.

The real reason you can have a firearm concealed in your vehicle is because of Link Removed (search the PDF for 93-14 to get to the relevant section of the 1993 AG opinions), it's not because Nevada considers your vehicle to be an extension of your home whether by an article in a given State's Constitution or case law such as LA or NM or vehicle CCW is permitted by code, law or statute such as FL, MO, TX or UT.

Keep in mind that any DA or judge can challenge an AG opinion. However because all Attorney General opinions are public record, the legal defense for having a firearm concealed in your vehicle has for the most part already been done for you. This is why all Nevada DA's will cut you lose or LEO supervisors will kick free an arrest for vehicle CCW. One can also use an AG opinion as a legal defense which is a very strong legal precedence. The acting Chief Law Enforcement Officer and legal counsel for the State of Nevada said officially on June 21, 1993 vehicle CCW was legal so until the NRS changes which specifically forbids vehicle CCW or NV AG Opinion 93-14 is successfully challenged, you can do it. I don't forsee NV AG Opinion 93-14 being challenged in court or NRS 202.350 being amended to prohibit vehicle CCW.

If it's concealed in your vehicle (i.e. glove box, under a seat, in between seats, door pocket, center console, passenger seat under something, locked case or vault attached to the vehicle, etc.) you should be fine under Nevada AG opinion 93-14.

 

[Ryan H]

If I weren't able to carry it loaded, I would just unload it and put it in my luggage until I got into my room. Seems pretty simple to me, if that weren't legal then what would be the point of firearms being legal there at all? They have to be transported in some fashion or another....

 

[gdcleanfun]

If I weren't able to carry it loaded, I would just unload it and put it in my luggage until I got into my room. Seems pretty simple to me, if that weren't legal then what would be the point of firearms being legal there at all? They have to be transported in some fashion or another....

If you put the firearm inside your luggage then it's considered concealed and you need a permit to do that in Nevada. Carry it open for all the world to see and it's legal in Nevada.

 

[gdcleanfun]

Not shooting the messenger, however I am an instructor on the LVMPD approved Nevada CFP instructor list.

The real reason you can have a firearm concealed in your vehicle is because of Link Removed (search the PDF for 93-14 to get to the relevant section of the 1993 AG opinions), it's not because Nevada considers your vehicle to be an extension of your home whether by an article in a given State's Constitution or case law such as LA or NM or vehicle CCW is permitted by code, law or statute such as FL, MO, TX or UT.

Keep in mind that any DA or judge can challenge an AG opinion. However because all Attorney General opinions are public record, the legal defense for having a firearm concealed in your vehicle has for the most part already been done for you. This is why all Nevada DA's will cut you lose or LEO supervisors will kick free an arrest for vehicle CCW. One can also use an AG opinion as a legal defense which is a very strong legal precedence. The acting Chief Law Enforcement Officer and legal counsel for the State of Nevada said officially on June 21, 1993 vehicle CCW was legal so until the NRS changes which specifically forbids vehicle CCW or NV AG Opinion 93-14 is successfully challenged, you can do it. I don't forsee NV AG Opinion 93-14 being challenged in court or NRS 202.350 being amended to prohibit vehicle CCW.

If it's concealed in your vehicle (i.e. glove box, under a seat, in between seats, door pocket, center console, passenger seat under something, locked case or vault attached to the vehicle, etc.) you should be fine under Nevada AG opinion 93-14.

Thanks, net, I was merely quoting a local detective, and it was easy for me to say it that way. I guess easier isn't always better, huh? Oh well.

 

[Avail]

If you put the firearm inside your luggage then it's considered concealed and you need a permit to do that in Nevada. Carry it open for all the world to see and it's legal in Nevada.

He said unloaded though, so he would be 'legal' according to the current laws if he put an unloaded gun in his bags.

Open carry downtown on the strip is a BAD idea just FYI. I personally would never do it unless I were in some type of uniform; while its legal and all, OC downtown is just asking for Metro to be all over you like white on rice. Just MHO.