Do you still conceal carry into posted "No Carry" businesses?

[Rhino]

Again, what are you taking about?? When and where did I twist any of the truth around...?

Short list.

 

[corneileous]

Short list.

Dude, why don't you just give it a rest??

What does linking my user profile to whatever your dinky little short list is, have to do with anything?

Admit it, you're just out to spout useless crap with no intentions of discussing the original topic at hand and just itching to continue stirring the pot for no apparent reason.

 

[Rhino]

Dude, why don't you just give it a rest??

What does linking my user profile to whatever your dinky little short list is, have to do with anything?

Admit it, you're just out to spout useless crap with no intentions of discussing the original topic at hand and just itching to continue stirring the pot for no apparent reason.

Subtlety is lost on some. But you do affirm what I said about responding when attacked. Yet some are maligning Bikenut for doing that very same thing. I'm all for giving it a rest though. I think all sides have amply stated their positions.

 

[HKS]

Yup this thread has definitely been beaten to death.

A better title than "Do you still carry into ..." would have been "Do you even care about ...?"

 

[corneileous]

Do you still conceal carry into posted "No Carry" businesses?

Subtlety is lost on some.

Still don't get the link to my profile but, whatever.

But you do affirm what I said about responding when attacked.

Of course people are going to respond when they get attacked. Whether they're right or wrong for whatever it was they said that led up to the attack, they will respond. Lol. What's your point?

Yet some are maligning Bikenut for doing that very same thing.

Because there's too much "fighting other people's battles" being committed in here. Bikenut felt the need to coddle these store owners over their rights to create these poorly thought out gun free zones, just like how now all the sudden you are taking it upon yourself to argue his battle which, wasn't any of his responsibility in the first place to tell people like me what to do.

Make sense now? Perhaps? Hopefully?

I'm all for giving it a rest though.

Yeah, ok. I'm not seeing any reason to believe you.

I think all sides have amply stated their positions.

Yes, LONG time ago.

 

[corneileous]

A better title than "Do you still carry into ..." would have been "Do you even care about ...?"

Au contraire, it was said several pages back by a specific person that the rights of business owners was just as much fair game to talk about, just despite the fact that another person said in response that the topic at hand was about whether you carry in these places or not, not about disrespecting property owner rights to ban guns in a public place.

 

[Bikenut]

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Originally Posted by Rhino:
Yet some are maligning Bikenut for doing that very same thing.

Because there's too much "fighting other people's battles" being committed in here. Bikenut felt the need to coddle these store owners rights to create these poorly thought out gun free zones, just like how now all the sudden you are taking it upon yourself to argue his battle which, wasn't any of his responsibility in the first place to tell people like me what to do.

Make sense now? Perhaps? Hopefully? -snip-

Neither you nor anyone else has any right, entitlement, or even the power a fart has in a windstorm to tell me or anyone else who's battles they will decide are worthy of fighting. For you to decide and decree what battles are appropriate for me or anyone else to be involved in speaks of an infinite amount of arrogance on your part.

I am thankful that there are folks who are willing to fight battles for others especially when they have nothing to gain by doing so. Without such folks many battles (i.e. the civil rights battle) would have been, and still would be, much more difficult.

Oddly enough one of the excuses some folks use to justify sneaking their gun into/onto a private property business that has a no guns policy/rule is so they will be able to come to the aid of an innocent being attacked in that business. You know.... fighting someone else's battle when they have no personal interest involved and actually have a great deal to lose by doing so.

 

[corneileous]

Do you still conceal carry into posted "No Carry" businesses?

First off....

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Neither you nor anyone else has any right, entitlement, or even the power a fart has in a windstorm to tell me or anyone else who's battles they will decide are worthy of fighting. For you to decide and decree what battles are appropriate for me or anyone else to be involved in speaks of an infinite amount of arrogance on your part.

Just like how YOU have no right coming in here trying to guilt us into not carrying in these places!! YOU'VE MADE YOUR POINT!! GIVE IT A REST ALREADY!!

Oddly enough one of the excuses some folks use to justify sneaking their gun into/onto a private property business that has a no guns policy/rule is so they will be able to come to the aid of an innocent being attacked in that business. You know.... fighting someone else's battle when they have no personal interest in doing so and actually have a great deal to lose by doing so.

And those people are wrong as well. It's not anybody's responsibility to intervene. Just like how it's not YOUR responsibility to blather on and on and on and on about protesting people who carry for defense of themselves past these signs.

Yeah, oddly enough, I see what you're doing above but, you failed miserably. Pointing out a mistake some people make to justify carrying in a gun in a gun free business doesn't help or prove your case of going on an on about preaching store owners rights.

 

[corneileous]

For you to decide and decree what battles are appropriate for me or anyone else to be involved in speaks of an infinite amount of arrogance on your part.

Again, as I've reminded you so many times, I'm not telling, deciding, decreeing or any of those words, you what to do. I am merely suggesting.

 

[Bikenut]

First off....

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Originally Posted by Bikenut View Post
Neither you nor anyone else has any right, entitlement, or even the power a fart has in a windstorm to tell me or anyone else who's battles they will decide are worthy of fighting. For you to decide and decree what battles are appropriate for me or anyone else to be involved in speaks of an infinite amount of arrogance on your part.

Just like how YOU have no right coming in here trying to guilt us into not carrying in these places!! YOU'VE MADE YOUR POINT!! GIVE IT A REST ALREADY!!

Originally Posted by Bikenut View Post:
Oddly enough one of the excuses some folks use to justify sneaking their gun into/onto a private property business that has a no guns policy/rule is so they will be able to come to the aid of an innocent being attacked in that business. You know.... fighting someone else's battle when they have no personal interest in doing so and actually have a great deal to lose by doing so.

And those people are wrong. It's not anybody's responsibility to intervene. Just like how it's not YOUR responsibility to blather on and on and on and on about protesting people who carry for defense of themselves past these signs.

Yeah, oddly enough, I see what you're doing above but, you failed miserably. Pointing out another mistake people make to justify carrying in a gun in a gun free business doesn't help your case of going on an on about preaching store owners rights.

First off... the major failure is on your part since you still do not understand that you have absolutely no power to decide and decree what I will or will not do in regards to supporting private property rights regardless of your opinion concerning whether it is my responsibility or not. I decide what I will consider to be my responsibility, not you. Nor do you seem capable of understanding that you have absolutely no power to decide and decree what I will, or will not, post.

And if my pointing out that folks who expect their right to bear arms be respected while disrespecting the right of the business property owner to deny entry to those who carry guns makes you ... feel... guilty then I would say that shows you know you are being hypocritical and that, my not so worthy opponent, is on you.

Not to mention you have absolutely no power to require me to give anything a rest. Perhaps that is the thing that irks you the most?

 

[Bikenut]

Originally Posted by Bikenut View Post
For you to decide and decree what battles are appropriate for me or anyone else to be involved in speaks of an infinite amount of arrogance on your part.

Again, as I've reminded you so many times, I'm not telling, deciding, decreeing or any of those words, you what to do. I am merely suggesting.

Nice try but your own posts show differently as everyone can see.

 

[corneileous]

Nice try but your own posts show differently as everyone can see.

I don't think so.

Again, your double-quoting BS proves nothing.

 

[Bikenut]

Originally Posted by Bikenut View Post
Nice try but your own posts show differently as everyone can see.

I don't think so.

Again, your double-quoting BS proves nothing.

I don't care if you think so or not. Your posts, and the things you say in them, stand all by themselves for all to see.

What has my knowledge of how to correctly post quotes so there is no confusion as to what is being discussed have to do with your incessant harping that I should not involve myself in battles for rights when I do not stand to personally benefit from doing so?

Look, you have made yourself abundantly clear that you will not respect the rights of others that you do not agree with. Everyone here knows that. You have made yourself abundantly clear that you think I am foolish for being willing to do what you are not. Everyone here knows that.

You are going to continue to do exactly what you want to do. Everyone here knows that.

And I am going to continue to do exactly what I want to do and that is to support private property rights of businesses because I believe it is the proper thing to do regardless of whether you or anyone else agrees with it or not. Everyone here knows that.

If that makes you feewwl ... guilty ... then that says a lot more about you than it does me. And everyone here knows that too.

 

[corneileous]

First off... the major failure is on your part since you still do not understand that you have absolutely no power to decide and decree what I will or will not do in regards to supporting private property rights regardless of your opinion concerning whether it is my responsibility or not.

It's not your responsibility but, whatever. Keep foolishly telling yourself it is. I don't care.

I decide what I will consider to be my responsibility, not you. Nor do you seem capable of understanding that you have absolutely no power to decide and decree what I will, or will not, post.

Again, I don't give a rats furry backside what you do, pal. I'm just merely stating as a suggestion.

But for the record, it's not up to you to preach your crap over and over again about us carrying for defense in gun free zones. No matter how much you foolishly think it is, IT ISN'T!!!

And if my pointing out that folks who expect their right to bear arms be respected while disrespecting the right of the business property owner to deny entry to those who carry guns makes you ... feel... guilty then I would say that shows you know you are being hypocritical and that, my not so worthy opponent, is on you.

I never said you were making me feel guilty. I highly doubt you've made ANYBODY feel guilty. I was just simply saying, and I will say it again, YOU HAVE NO RIGHT GUILTING ANYBODY!!

Not to mention you have absolutely no power to require me to give anything a rest. Perhaps that is the thing that irks you the most?

Oh, you've mentioned more than your fair share, trust me.

The only thing really that irks me is your interest in repeating the same crap over... and over... and over... and over... and over...

 

[Bikenut]

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Originally posted by Bikenut:
I decide what I will consider to be my responsibility, not you. Nor do you seem capable of understanding that you have absolutely no power to decide and decree what I will, or will not, post.

Again, I don't give a rats furry backside what you do, pal. I'm just merely stating as a suggestion.

But for the record, it's not up to you to preach your crap over and over again about us carrying for defense in gun free zones. No matter how much you foolishly think it is, IT ISN'T!!!
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Again, your own posts show that you are not offering suggestions but are telling me what is, and what isn't, my responsibility. And your own past posts show that you are telling me what I should, and what I should not, post. In fact your own very next sentence about how it isn't my responsibility to talk about supporting the property owner's right to deny entry to those who bear arms shows you are not offering any.... suggestions.

I decide what is my responsibility. You do not. You have no power to decree what responsibilities I will decide to accept. Also I decide what I will, and what I will not, post and as long as the private property owner of this website/forum gives me his permission (did you understand that part in bold?) to post those things YOU have absolutely no power over it.

Be that as it may you are just going to have to understand that you are totally powerless to make me, or anyone for that matter, only post what you think they should or should not.

The only thing really that irks me is your interest in repeating the same crap over... and over... and over... and over... and over...

Get used to it because I will continue since it should be glaringly obvious by now that I consider fighting for the rights of others, especially the rights I personally do not benefit from, my responsibility simply because there are folks like you who don't. Believe it or not when folks like you are unwilling to fight for the rights of others just because there is nothing in it for them personally you are tacitly helping those who fight against those rights.

And for folks to be unwilling to respect the favorite rights of others, like a businessman's private property right to deny entry to those who bear arms, while expecting their favorite right to bear arms be respected are being hypocritical.

And if I have to repeat that a billion fold in order to help protect rights (especially the rights I personally do not benefit from! That is the point!) then I most certainly shall regardless of your opinion of my doing so.

 

[corneileous]

I don't care if you think so or not.

Obviously.

As the same as I.

Your posts, and the things you say in them, stand all by themselves for all to see.

Just like yours.

What has my knowledge of how to correctly post quotes so there is no confusion as to what is being discussed have to do with your incessant harping that I should not involve myself in battles for rights when I do not stand to personally benefit from doing so?

It has nothing to do with it. Who told you it did? It sure as heckfire wasn't me. I was just simply saying... again... that double-quoting like you like to do so much wasn't helping you anymore prove anything. So sorry that flew right, smooth over the top of your head. Lol.

Look, you have made yourself abundantly clear that you will not respect the rights of others that you do not agree with.

So? Point?

Everyone here knows that.

Yep. Again, point?

You have made yourself abundantly clear that you think I am foolish for being willing to do what you are not. Everyone here knows that.

Well, I'm not saying you're being foolish so much in general to feel that way, I'm just saying its foolish along the lines of continuing to make such a big deal about it here.

You are going to continue to do exactly what you want to do. Everyone here knows that.

Yep. Point?

And I am going to continue to do exactly what I want to do and that is to support private property rights of businesses because I believe it is the proper thing to do regardless of whether you or anyone else agrees with it or not.

Ok.

Everyone here knows that.

Yep. Funny thing is, most people learned that weeks ago. I don't know why you still find the need to remind us all.

If that makes you feewwl ...

"feewwl"?? Um, I believe it's........ f-e-e-l...

......guilty ... then that says a lot more about you than it does me. And everyone here knows that too.

Nope, your wrong. On both parts.

Again, I don't feel guilty and.....

Two, no one thinks I do because I've never said I was.

 

[corneileous]

Do you still conceal carry into posted "No Carry" businesses?

Again, your own posts show that you are not offering suggestions but are telling me what is, and what isn't, my responsibility. And your own past posts show that you are telling me what I should, and what I should not, post. In fact your own very next sentence about how it isn't my responsibility to talk about supporting the property owner's right to deny entry to those who bear arms shows you are not offering any.... suggestions.

I decide what is my responsibility. You do not. You have no power to decree what responsibilities I will decide to accept. Also I decide what I will, and what I will not, post and as long as the private property owner of this website/forum gives me his permission (did you understand that part in bold?) to post those things YOU have absolutely no power over it.

Be that as it may you are just going to have to understand that you are totally powerless to make me, or anyone for that matter, only post what you think they should or should not.

Get used to it because I will continue since it should be glaringly obvious by now that I consider fighting for the rights of others, especially the rights I personally do not benefit from, my responsibility simply because there are folks like you who don't. Believe it or not when folks like you are unwilling to fight for the rights of others just because there is nothing in it for them personally you are tacitly helping those who fight against those rights.

And for folks to be unwilling to respect the favorite rights of others, like a businessman's private property right to deny entry to those who bear arms, while expecting their favorite right to bear arms be respected are being hypocritical.

And if I have to repeat that a billion fold in order to help protect rights (especially the rights I personally do not benefit from! That is the point!) then I most certainly shall regardless of your opinion of my doing so.

Ok. Whatever you say buddy.

Repeating the same crap over and over isn't contributing, no matter how much you think it is.

 

[Bikenut]

Originally Posted by Bikenut View Post
Again, your own posts show that you are not offering suggestions but are telling me what is, and what isn't, my responsibility. And your own past posts show that you are telling me what I should, and what I should not, post. In fact your own very next sentence about how it isn't my responsibility to talk about supporting the property owner's right to deny entry to those who bear arms shows you are not offering any.... suggestions.

I decide what is my responsibility. You do not. You have no power to decree what responsibilities I will decide to accept. Also I decide what I will, and what I will not, post and as long as the private property owner of this website/forum gives me his permission (did you understand that part in bold?) to post those things YOU have absolutely no power over it.

Be that as it may you are just going to have to understand that you are totally powerless to make me, or anyone for that matter, only post what you think they should or should not.

Get used to it because I will continue since it should be glaringly obvious by now that I consider fighting for the rights of others, especially the rights I personally do not benefit from, my responsibility simply because there are folks like you who don't. Believe it or not when folks like you are unwilling to fight for the rights of others just because there is nothing in it for them personally you are tacitly helping those who fight against those rights.

And for folks to be unwilling to respect the favorite rights of others, like a businessman's private property right to deny entry to those who bear arms, while expecting their favorite right to bear arms be respected are being hypocritical.

And if I have to repeat that a billion fold in order to help protect rights (especially the rights I personally do not benefit from! That is the point!) then I most certainly shall regardless of your opinion of my doing so.

Ok. Whatever you say buddy.

Repeating the same crap over and over isn't contributing, no matter how much you think it is.

Right back atcha.

 

[corneileous]

Right back atcha.

Point???

You haven't posted in this thread for quite a while now until today and suddenly you see it necessary to spew your diatribe once again because of a conversation between me and Rhino?

 

[Bikenut]

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You haven't posted in this thread for quite a while now until today and suddenly you see it necessary to spew your diatribe once again because of a conversation between me and Rhino?

Your point? Do you think just because I haven't posted in a while that I shouldn't?

Actually I think it is hilarious that you respond with ridicule just because you think I should not take the opportunity to present my message concerning property rights by commenting on a conversation between you and Rhino when I have made it clear that only the private property owner of this website/forum has the power to grant or deny permission for me to post or not post and that YOU have no power what so ever to decree what topics and who's posts I will respond to.

And I think it is quite telling that I continue to draw this conversation right back to private property rights (as I did in the sentence above) yet your fascination is on trying to, as you so quaintly call it, ... suggest... that I stop posting about property rights and those who disrespect them because you have decreed it isn't my responsibility.