I want one of these. From what I understand they break every few to several hundred rounds, but the manufacturer will fix them without hassle. I've heard of owners being told they shoot it too much. Size is unsurpassed for concealability but price is very high!I'm narrowing down my selections for a second carry handgun (semi-auto) to five/six choices. My current one is a S&W 60LS revolver.
Rohrbaugh 9
I have a friend who carries the P11 and he likes it. I carry a PF-9 daily (I own 2) and like it much better than the fatter P11. The PF-9 is not quite as small as the Rohrbaugh, or as high quality as some other choices, but it's cheap, light, and dependable. I have already sent one back to KelTec because I shoot carry pistols a lot. They told me they'd repair / rebuild as many times as necessary and to not worry about how much I shoot it. It's lighter than the Rohrbaugh, Glock, or Kahr of approximately the same size. The light weight is the deciding factor for me.KelTec P11 or PF9
Sig Sauer P250
S&W M&P9c (preferably #209304)
Glock 26
(I'm already experienced with using a Glock 26, but my husband now claims that one to be his own carry gun.)
What I am looking for are the differences/similarities of these models from those of you who have handled them--along the lines of recoil power, gun preference to certain ammunition brands (picky with ammo or willing to "eat" any brand?), manufacturer's customer service when problems occur, ease with disassembling/assembling for cleaning, etc.
I'm looking for your feedback please as part of my research. I will be trying these guns out at the range.
Thank y$ou,
- Ceicei
For something that has a reputation to be as finely calibrated as a watch, I'm surprised it is not more durable. Nice to know the company will fix without hassle, but that will mean a few days of waiting each time. :wacko: Not good.I want one of these. From what I understand they break every few to several hundred rounds, but the manufacturer will fix them without hassle.
Shoot too much? I like to make sure I practice often with my guns. It helps reinforce muscle memory... Maybe the Rohrbaugh isn't the gun for me... The size is appealing, but a gun that is very, very high maintenance may not be as convenient.I've heard of owners being told they shoot it too much.
I like the company philosophy! I'll take a closer look at these models.I have a friend who carries the P11 and he likes it. I carry a PF-9 daily (I own 2) and like it much better than the fatter P11. The PF-9 is not quite as small as the Rohrbaugh, or as high quality as some other choices, but it's cheap, light, and dependable. I have already sent one back to KelTec because I shoot carry pistols a lot. They told me they'd repair / rebuild as many times as necessary and to not worry about how much I shoot it. I
Wonderful advice. Thank you.If you find something you like better, try it. If you decide you didn't make the best choice, sell it and try something else. We're not talking about a new house, car, or even a vacation here. A few hundred dollars to investigate what you feel is the best tool to preserve your life and that of those you love is not a high price to pay.
What is it about these guns that made you place them in that order? What do you consider is the P250's strongest feature?As for the others this would be my order.
Sig Sauer P250
S&W M&P9c (preferably #209304)
KelTec P11 or PF9
Glock 26
Good point.The main thing is how it feels in your hand, if the gun fits you well the felt recoil will also seem more manageable.
That's my plan. It's the best way to compare by trying them out.I'd go to a store and handle all of them and if possible rent them.
Isn't that sweet? I used to be a die-hard Glock fan, but I decided to open my mind a bit more and see what else is out there. Maybe something better, or maybe more of the same. We'll see.If the Glock 26 fits you better then the others get one also. Then you'll have a his and hers set.
Now that is tempting. :man_in_love: I'll have to buy a bigger gun safe.... :sarcastic:Or you could go the safe route and buy one of each! :biggrin:
May I ask why?My order would go like this:
Sig Sauer P250
S&W M&P9c (preferably #209304)
Glock 26
KelTec P11 or PF9
Rohrbaugh 9
Interesting. Is there something different mechanically that would make the Kahr PM9 / CW90 preferable than the KelTec?Although I would take the Kahr PM9 or CW90 over the KelTec or Rohrbaugh.
That is a new bit of information I hadn't heard before about the Rohrbaughs. Definitely worth a thought. Ease of swapping would be important in a high stress environment.I looked into the Rohrbaugh. Very sweet. I wanted it for a pocket pistol. Not easy to swap out the mag in a hurry so it would be what you have onboard as far as I am concerned.
I'm guessing your LCP is a Ruger? I used to have a Ruger P89 and P90. I was using them for my first CCW testing years ago and had trouble shooting. The police officer (who was the instructor for that class) was observing me then came over to explain why I was having trouble. They both, unfortunately, were too big for my hands and causing me to limp-wrist when I shoot. He then handed me his service gun (a Glock 36 or 37, can't remember) to finish out the test. Big difference! That is how I fell in love with the Glocks for their ease of handling and durability; I ended up buying a G26.I bought an LCP and put the Crimson laser on. This gun is very consistant! Fits the pocket just right. I know it is a .380 but never any prob to carrying it.
So how does your wife like the Kahr p380? I prefer a 9mm over a .380 gun. I am pleased with my revolver which takes both the 38 and 357 ammo. I like having the choice. Kahr MK9? Ummm... Steel, not polymer? Interesting. I'll definitely have to check that out.I love my HK USP .40 compact but still looking for something smaller but with more power then a .380.
My wife picked out a Kahr p380 sp we bought it this past Sat.
It got me looking into the Kahr MK9. 9mm so that is what you are looking for. It is small, another plus. The MK is all steel so a bit heavier but you will like the way it shoots with the extra weight. It is still less $ then the Rohrbaugh but easy to change mags quickly. Just my $.02...what do I know lol
Thank you for your information! I agree USACarry is a terrific website. I started out with packing.org for some years and when that folded, USACarry started up and bullseyed the target. Much as I enjoyed packing.org and the dynamics of those who used to post there, I do think USACarry came out stronger with more useful information. The feel is very different and I love it here.Love this site! You guys are very helpful and informative!
What is it about these guns that made you place them in that order? What do you consider is the P250's strongest feature?
Good point. That's my plan. It's the best way to compare by trying them out. Isn't that sweet? I used to be a die-hard Glock fan, but I decided to open my mind a bit more and see what else is out there. Maybe something better, or maybe more of the same. We'll see. Now that is tempting. :man_in_love: I'll have to buy a bigger gun safe.... :sarcastic:
- Ceicei
Originally Posted by DarrellM5 View Post
My order would go like this:
Sig Sauer P250
S&W M&P9c (preferably #209304)
Glock 26
KelTec P11 or PF9
Rohrbaugh 9
May I ask why?
Although I would take the Kahr PM9 or CW90 over the KelTec or Rohrbaugh.
Interesting. Is there something different mechanically that would make the Kahr PM9 / CW90 preferable than the KelTec?
Thanks for your input. SA XD is worth a look.I have no problems with the Glock or S&W other than they just do not fit my short fat fingers. For the reason I prefer the Taurus or SA XD models not listed here. I have a P3At that I really like and have never had a problem with it. The P-11 is the same except in a 9mm but I have not shot one.
I like the look and feel of the Rohrbaugh but have never shot one. Don't know a thing about the Sig other than what I have read. The main thing is what feels good to you. As suggested buy one of each.
I would take the Sig first because I am really impressed with their pistols. My main carry piece is a Sig P229. I would take the M&P over the Glock just based on personal preference. They're both good pistols. However, I would take a XD or XDM over both. I own the Kahr CW9 and it has been totally accurate, reliable and comfortable to shoot. I've never really messed with the KelTec. I believe the Rohrbaugh 9 is too expensive, relative to the others in it's peer group.
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