Concealing Methods


k_stringer27

New member
OK so I just got my permit to carry yesterday and I have been trying out different methods of concealing. I have a fobus paddle holster and a utg shoulder holster. I have tried fitting both holsters under light jackets and sweatshirts, but no matter how I try to wear, it always sticks out and is obvious i am trying to conceal. Anybody have any tips/methods? I have been all over the internet trying to find out, but apparently nobody else has these problems and I just may be retarded...I am trying to conceal a Walther P99, thanks for any help/advice/suggestions
 

DarrellM5

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For most it seems to depend on the size of the gun, the size of the person and choice of holster and wardrobe. I'm 5'9" and 210. The only holster that works for me with a full sized pistol, like my Sig P229, is an inside the waistband rig on my firing side hip. Even with this, I have to wear a vest or light jacket. There is no way that I can pull off wearing it with just a loose fitting shirt. I know people with different builds that seem to be able to conceal anything with a loose shirt. A smartcarry type setup works, but it's not my favorite place to store a gun. Luckily I'm in Nevada, where printing isn't illegal. If a few people figure out that I might possibly be carrying, they won't be sure enough to make a scene.
 

k_stringer27

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thanks for the input guys, I've found it I put my paddle holster in the front of my pants, it's pretty easy to hide with anything, but putting it on my hip is all but impossible to conceal. I might stick with that for now, but I don't like the idea of my gun going off with my barrel pointed at my pride and joy...
 

DrDavidM

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I like an Inside the waist band holster (IWB) at about 4 o'clock (right behind my strong hand hip bone).
 

LDaniel

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I carry a P229 and at times a SA 1911-A1 with a iwb don hume holster, I just wear a pull over shirt and everything is fine. I am about 5' 9 1/2" and 285 lbs.. and sometimes I wear the same guns in a Fobus paddle holster on my hip about 4 o'clock and wear a decorative T shirt that I tuck in and then put on a large button up shortsleeve shirt that i wear like a light jacket and I don't button it up. It covers the gun and I can get to it really quick.

Texas law says it cannot be discernible as a firearm. A slight bump in the shirt, it could be a pager, cellphone, etc..
 

DrDavidM

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I had another thought. unfortunately, this will be mt last thought of the day :D . Nobody else sees it as clearly as you do. You may think it's totally obvious you're wearing a gun, but to others it's just a bump.
 

XdeadtoyouX

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I carry a Springfield Armory Micro Compact .45 in a Galco holster. I wear it inside the waistband at the 4 o'clock position.....
 

Cooter

Liberty or Death
I have a IWB Galco holster with the J-hook. Today I was messin around with a buddy of mine, and he pushed me a bit, and I hit the wall (not very hard at all.) The dang J-hook broke off. The holster cost me something like $60, and now it's useless. When I draw my CCW, the holster comes with it.
I figured I'd save a bit of money on a cheap holster, but it didn't take much at all to ruin the damn POS. Last time I make that mistake.
 

murph50

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I usually CC a SA XD9 SC or a CZ p01 with paddle holsters at 4 oclock. That's if I'm wearing a coat or flannel shirt. Now that it's warming up I sometimes use a fanny pack but most of the time it's the Kel tec P3AT in front jeans pocket in a Mike's #3 pocket holster.
I agree that there's a difference between printing and a lump. Nobodies ever asked me what that lump is or even noticed it as far as I know. I just don';t worry about it.
Funny thing I read awhile back about this. Someone asked the dude (with a lump) if he had a gun. He said no--it's my colostomy bag--wanna see it. Problem solved
 

WaltherCC

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I also have a Walther99 that I use as my primary carry gun. It's my first carry gun and I often feel like it's a lot to lug around, but I haven't had any problems. I carry in a Galco Concealable Belt Holster I purchased for around $75-80, and mostly carry on my hip under a shirt. I'm 6'2", 200lbs and don't have problems with people noticing I'm carrying. I agree with previous posts, I am definitely more aware of my gun then the people around me. I almost always have a little bump, never a bulge, and I'm very conscious of it, but not once has someone stopped or stared. Face it; if you don't look or act like a gun toting lunatic, people don't have reason to suspect you may be armed. Whether or not you're carrying a gun is just not the first thing on people's minds. Carry with confidence and you'll remain the only person that knows you're carrying a gun.
 

abock33

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I like an Inside the waist band holster (IWB) at about 4 o'clock (right behind my strong hand hip bone).

+1 on the IWB. I've found that with a tighter shirt I can move it further back around 5 o'clock. I can hide my glock 23 with a teeshirt in either position.
 

BikerRN

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The "trick" to concealing a gun is using good quality gear.

Take your Fobus and throw it in the trash and go buy a good Holster. Milt Sparks, Mitch Rosen, Greg Kramer and Matt Del Fatti all make good Inside The Waistband Holsters for concealed carry. Also, when you order a Holster take the time and spend the money to order a Belt too. Holsters are designed to work with a proper Gunbelt, not the flimsy crap that passes for a Belt at Men's Warehouse.

You may find that IWB Carry is uncomfortable at first. Unbutton your trousers for a week or so and see if that works. If it does gradually start buying pants 1"-2" bigger in the waist. All of my pants are sized to accomodate a weapon carried IWB.

If you want to save a dollar or two take a look at Mitch Rosen's "Express Line" instead of his "Premium Line". They don't cost much more than a Galco and the quality is 10X better IMHO. I'm using a Mitch Rosen "Express Line" ARG until my Del Fatti ISP4 gets here. That will be in about 18 months. Lightning Arms Sports sells Holsters by Milt Sparks and Matt Del Fatti if you don't want to wait to receive a handmade one from the maker. In my case, with Del Fatti, I had some "alterations" to the Holster. So, I have to wait for him to make it. Milt Sparks is running about 6 months on orders and they are well worth it. Mitch Rosen is about 3 weeks on an "Express Line" and 10 weeks or so on a "Premium Line" the last time I talked with him.

Good luck and stay safe.

Biker
 

toreskha

Titles are un-American.
A few tips on concealment:

  • Get a gun you know you can conceal, and work up from there. Start off wearing a Kel-Tec, Kahr, or something else small. If you feel that's your limit, then stick with that. If you feel comfortable hiding something bigger, then go for it. There's a danger in buying a giant gun you can't hide - if it's difficult to carry, you'll probably just leave it at home a lot.

  • Get suitable clothes. Get jeans or other pants with fairly thick or otherwise suitable material that won't show objects underneath well. You'll probably have to start buying these things a size or two bigger than normal. Get shirts that extend down far enough and have a material suitable for concealment. Depending on your situation, heavy material might be better in some cases, or something light and billowy might be better in others.

  • Learn to walk. Walking around with a gun isn't necessarily a natural movement; you may want to rehearse this and watch yourself in the mirror a few times. Practice holding your shirt down nondescriptly, in case of wind; the best way is just to put your hand in your pocket, or hold it relaxed at your side. Try sitting down and standing up, making sure that you don't print during the act, and that you can perform the movement smoothly with an oddly shaped piece of metal strapped to your body.

  • Get the right holster, and possibly several varieties depending on how you normally dress. You'll find lots of advice and opinions on what holster to get for what activity.

  • If you're good at keeping up with an external object, don't dismiss the possibility of external carry. So long as you can draw quickly, you can carry even a large handgun in a briefcase, backpack, camera case, etc. Just make sure you act and look the part. Make an effort to not look like someone who people would think would be carrying a gun, or the bag may look suspicious. It's a stupid stereotype of course, but just keep it in mind.
The biggest part, IMO is just trying to look very unlike a stereotypical individual who might freely exercise their 2nd amendment rights. Wearing a camo jacket and a hat that says GLOCK on it is going to be a dead giveaway. You might as well just walk around with a gun on your hip for everyone to see. Khakis, a country club polo shirt, boat shoes and a PDA will cause people to not even consider you as a possible candidate for concealed carry. The same thing goes for carrying around props like Starbucks cups, a copy of your local liberal rag, or an NPR affiliate sticker on your car.

Although some people might consider them to be cheap, I really like Uncle Mike's for my P3AT - they're very slim, lightweight, and extremely simple. It's little more than a neoprene sleeve, and with small gun it looks like a wallet at the most. Today I used the pocket holster to carry at an event where people were being searched; security and cops were everywhere. No one gave me a second look, and I breezed right through.
 

DrLewall

Charter Member
The problem I have with IWB carry is I suffer from that dreaded chemical isufficientcy, noassitol..I aint got no butt to help hold my britches up so I have to sinch my belt tight just to keep my pants on (when I wear em)..thus I carry OWB
 

Kivuli

New member
It also depends on how big of a guy you are. If you're on the thin side, IWB is probably your best bet for an on-your-person carry. If, however, you are a knuckle-dragging monster like myself, all you need is a decent paddle and a loose shirt. Also, before you go out, give yourself a quick look in the mirror. If you glance at yourself and can't honestly say you see the outline of a gun, then you're fine. You're looking for it. Average Joe on the street probably isn't even considering you past which way he needs to walk to not bump into you.
 

HowardCohodas

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From my experience, SmartCarry is good only in that it makes the gun totally disappear. Drawing while standing is slow, and drawing from a sitting position is virtually impossible.

Using the SmartCarry requires some adjustments and experimentation.

Drawing from a SmartCarry is not fast. My time has improved with practice. I am now experimenting with a move that looks like I'm pulling up my pants (I've got a little bit of a tummy :wink:) that ends with a draw.

Drawing from a sitting position is more difficult. When I sit I also hike my pants and with my thumbs I also hike the SmartCarry. This leaves my rather large pistol nearly verticle. For driving I've added a ClipDraw so that I can carry IWB without holster.
 

Mushroom

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This works for me!

I started my search for a carry gun and carry method with only two unalterable criteria.

1. The caliber had to begin with a "4".
2. I had to be able to hide it without wearing a jacket.

Everything else I figured I could train my way around. I knew from the beginning that some compromises would be necessary to meet the requirement of my criteria number two. Remember this weapon is meant only for self defense at spitting distances. I now have a drawer full of holsters that are growing mold from disuse.

I'm 5' - 9" and weigh 155 Lbs. I have a Kahr MK40 (.40 S&W). I carry it IWB at 8:00 O'Clock, (I'm a confirmed lefty), in a Blade Tech, (ultimate concealment), holster set for the FBI cant. The little Kahr just disappears under only my tucked in shirt. Even my best friends have never spotted it! With both hands available for the draw I can have it out and running in just under one second. It is so comfortable that I forget it is there, and as a bonus I can easily reach it while seated behind the steering wheel of my car.
 

MichaelJ07

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I have had zero issues with my ubghholster from Nate Gables. I carry either my Bersa 9UC or my CZ75 PCR. From shorts to suits, it just rides and hides well.
 

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