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Sounds like WA just needs to give better CWP cards. The ones here in FL are printed on the same kind of plastic ATM-type card as our DLs, except there's no mag stripe. It does have a photo, info and holograms on the front though. They're not counterfeit-proof, but they'll survive until expiration.

I would kind of prefer that the Feds give out more durable SSN cards though. I've managed to destroy two so far and am waiting on #3 to come in the mail. Would it really be sacrilege to print them on plastic? I just want it to survive the washing machine.
 
I think a lot of you miss the point about 'natural' or 'god given' rights. CCW as it exists is unconstitutional. We all have an innate right to defense; to that purpose the Bill of Rights recognizes our 'Right to Keep and Bear Arms.'

That we have to jump through hoops and be licensed to exercise a right that is already ours is criminal on the part of the government. Arguing over badges is a sideshow because badges are meant to show rank, station, or purpose. Nobody needs to give notice of something everyone can rightfully do.
 
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We all have an innate right to defense; to that purpose the Bill of Rights recognizes our 'Right to Keep and Bear Arms.'
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I agree with that. If the UN were serious about the Declaration on Human Rights, they would have put the right to bear arms in there. We all have that right by virtue of existence.
 
In Texas, they are meaningless. And if a person were to misuse the badge, lets say the person uses it to impersonate a public servant with intent to induce another to submit to his pretended official authority or to rely on his pretended official acts, he or she will get a free ride downtown and temporary use of nickel plated braclets.

I am in Warrants, but if I was out and about and a person were to display the badge and mention he is a permit holder, I would say, show me your permit, that piece of tin means nothing.
 
The badge is not issued like the license. If it is not required we don't need it. The gun and the license are all we need. In fact some states have laws on the books that outlaw any badges that are not issued by a governmental agency.

As for security guards, they are required to wear a uniform with patches and/or badges. Their guns are also required to be worn in the open, not concealed.
 

WOW, did I deserve all that...

I feel sorry for you...
 

Yeah, you did. Actually, the stereotyping comment would have been sufficient. :icon_think:
 
Firemen, PIs, All sworn but not gun carring Law enforcement Have badges.IRS FBI CIA Mail Inspectors Code inforcement dog catchers Why not armed citizens? If it could slow down a bad situation. Hell bad guys scream police when crashing into homes to slow down fire.
 
Wow!!! I wonder why this topic seems to bring out the worst forum behavior in so many posters? Ad homonym attaches are never appropriate. The signal to noise ratio in this thread makes it useless for information, mostly makes me cringe and sometimes makes me smile. So I keep reading and hoping for something surprising.
 

You might be able to carry a Concealed Carry Badge, depending on your local/State laws,however,they are meaningless. Bad guys who yell Police when crashing into homes are adding another felony to their robbery charges.
 
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I still feel sorry for you
 
When the deaf mute man in new york reached for his card and was shot 40 times I think we all learned not to reach for anything when guns are drawn. Now youall behave and carry what you want just keep your hands in the clear.
 
Instead of badges, why not have a little slot in your permit to feed an ID clip through? I think if you wanted to identify yourself to police as a permit holder after an incident, you could just clip your permit to your pocket or collar and there would be no doubt as to whether you were the perp or the law-abiding CCW holder.
 
This is kind of a meaningless argument. There is no chance of a Reservoir Dogs-style Mexican standoff, but with the added improbability that the cops show up and are totally confused as to who the bad guys and good guys are. Life is not a bad B action movie.

A CWP does not grant you automatic immunity as it is NOT a get out of jail free card. It's not a witness that can fully corroborate your version of events. Whether you are or are not a criminal would be more dependent on the pattern of events that unfolded. The police (or later, a judge) should consider whether your account checks out with reality, and whether the situation fits the pattern of a crime.

  1. An incident happens.
  2. You draw your weapon and either shoot the perpetrator (in which case you reholster for safekeeping), or end up holding them at gunpoint.
  3. The cops show up. If you are still holding your weapon, they will ask you to put it down. You put it down.
  4. The police will confiscate your firearm and probably empty and secure it.
  5. The police ask for your CWP permit, and you give that permit to them.
  6. Not being an idiot, you act normal, and calmly inform the LEOs what happened.
  7. Witness accounts should roughly corroborate your story.
  8. During the next 4 hours or so while everyone stands around picking their ears and looking at the yellow police tape surrounding the scene, you'll have ample amount of time to be cooperative with LE and/or call your lawyer.
  9. You might get detained or arrested. Go along with them, and later you can figure out if you want to sue.

End of story. There's no badges, dangling CWP permits, CWP window stickers, or any other gimmicks needed. These will probably just make you seem less credible to the police, and more like you're a mall ninja looking for trouble.

BTW, if you honestly think the cops won't be able to tell you from the perp...consider not looking like a perp in the first place. There's a bias here, but society isn't perfect.
 
Hehe, kwo51... terse and amusing as always.

This topic makes me think of those little toy packages you see at grocery stores, with a set of a policeman's badge, belt, a hollow plastic nightstick and a little policeman's hat. Awww, how cute! We should all wear those when we carry.

Y.M.C.A.! It's fun to stay at the...
 
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