i have been following this discussion since it started and how it has deteriorated. i had checked with a judge,a prosecutor,a crimminal defence lawyer,some leo i know,and of course read the relevent state laws pertaining to this subject. all of these agreed i would be within my rights to use my firearm in my state. and i realize that some states laws are different. yet when i posted this information one person as much as called me a liar. this one person also made the claim that i was the reason they were trying to take peoples guns away. i think it was post 14 but not sure,(if i have the wrong post number my apologies). i am not a hot-head and can assure you i do my best NOT to give the gun-grabbers further reason to try to seize anybodys guns. i have always tried to be law-abiding. why else would i check with those who should know? for anybody to suggest that all these people i asked are wrong is ludicrous. i realize that we will disagree at times but name-calling and unfounded accusations are not the way to do it. if you want to believe that deadly force is illegal thats your priviledge. i and most others on this thread believe otherwise and it is obvious that some of them are like me and have checked into the law where they live. please put the name calling and unfounded accusations where they belong that is in the garbage. a good measure of common sense is knowing when it is time to "agree to disagree" and move on. unfortunatly some people are trying to stir things up and like an earlier post i smell a troll.
CCW'er Defends Himself at Walmart (N Las Vegas)
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ClearSightTactical
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+ 1 these guys are trained professional fighters, and granted they are facing other professionals. The only reason I haven't been stomped more than once is because i've always had plenty of backup, 1 goes down you have 3-4 more to deal with before you can effectively stomp the one. Off duty and on the street I highly doubt you'll have any backup to prevent your skull from becoming one with the concrete.
armed-an-rdy
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warning for what
i didnt know typing my opinion gets a warning because you disagree.and im offended when being refrence to as a troll. do you get a warning.like all gun web sites as soon as you disagree with a subject you get banned or warned.ive not called anyone a bad name.ive not disrespected anyone.if you think this subject is old or tired,im simply trying to help you and let you know that you dont have to come back. if the subject is old and tired ppl would stop replying.if it makes you fell like a powerfull tough guy then just bann me life goes on.
i didnt know typing my opinion gets a warning because you disagree.and im offended when being refrence to as a troll. do you get a warning.like all gun web sites as soon as you disagree with a subject you get banned or warned.ive not called anyone a bad name.ive not disrespected anyone.if you think this subject is old or tired,im simply trying to help you and let you know that you dont have to come back. if the subject is old and tired ppl would stop replying.if it makes you fell like a powerfull tough guy then just bann me life goes on.
armed-an-rdy
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ok
im origanally from queens new york city, south side. im got married,have 2 children,im 40 and im currently in upstate newyork.i have my ccw for newyork state which is not valid in new york city and a non residency for pa. always people exagerate the situation.this is not the ufc,your not fighting bruce lee.your not a 90 year old fight a highly train 20 year old.so lets cut that out of it shall we.ive been knocked down before from behind and was punched and kicked the wholle time it took me to get to my feet.form what im told.knocking some one down is a scare tactic. meaning after your knocked to the ground its now ez to say give me your wallet. lets say your didnt have a gun what would you do.get up and fight back or give up the wallet.my point during an assault or robbery ,when no weapon is shown, does that warrent deadly phsycal force . my question to you is . does a strong arm robbery entitle a ccw person to shoot. is a bg'S life worth 20$. please dont add kicking in the head jumping on your chest. lets keep it knocked to the ground. as a ccw person not a police officer.a police officer can respond diffrently. please respond
im origanally from queens new york city, south side. im got married,have 2 children,im 40 and im currently in upstate newyork.i have my ccw for newyork state which is not valid in new york city and a non residency for pa. always people exagerate the situation.this is not the ufc,your not fighting bruce lee.your not a 90 year old fight a highly train 20 year old.so lets cut that out of it shall we.ive been knocked down before from behind and was punched and kicked the wholle time it took me to get to my feet.form what im told.knocking some one down is a scare tactic. meaning after your knocked to the ground its now ez to say give me your wallet. lets say your didnt have a gun what would you do.get up and fight back or give up the wallet.my point during an assault or robbery ,when no weapon is shown, does that warrent deadly phsycal force . my question to you is . does a strong arm robbery entitle a ccw person to shoot. is a bg'S life worth 20$. please dont add kicking in the head jumping on your chest. lets keep it knocked to the ground. as a ccw person not a police officer.a police officer can respond diffrently. please respond
armed-an-rdy
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your right
the law says i do have to retreat if i can.i read a magazine recently about a man shooting someone in defence spending 2years in jail before trail then haveing the case thrown out. i wonder, does he still have a job, a house, a family. i bet he wishes he would have retreated .
the law says i do have to retreat if i can.i read a magazine recently about a man shooting someone in defence spending 2years in jail before trail then haveing the case thrown out. i wonder, does he still have a job, a house, a family. i bet he wishes he would have retreated .
ClearSightTactical
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"Assailed person has no duty to retreat, he may stand his ground and defend himself". Is what my state says. Sorry you live in a state where the criminal dictates the situation. Get hold of your representatives and get that changed.
As far as "spending 2 years in jail" i've heard of global warming, flying pigs, and that elvis is still alive. As well all know, if its printed its true.
S&W645
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With a good lawyer, he will make the police pay. Does he still have the things you mentioned, I don't know. That is part of the cost the lawyer will try to get. Problem is, he will never get those two years back.
S&W645
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In Florida:
Which is grounds for use of deadly force.
Florida laws spell it out but it still does happen that it gets taken to court on occasion. Where it usually ends up getting thrown out as justified.
armed-an-rdy
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would just being thrrow to the ground make you feel that your life is in danger.i hope you dont disagree i might just get banned
S&W645
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That wouldn't be what would set off the use. The fact that robbery is a forcible felony would. I would suspect anyone who comes out of the blue and attacks of one of several things: 1.) Robbery attempt, 2.) assualt with intent to commit bodily harm, 3.) any other forcible felony. But it all depends on where and who you are with. And who the attacker is with.
Treo
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We've already established that for the purpose of this thread you've been knocked to the ground by a criminal who is continuing the attack
Treo
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We've already established that for the purpose of this thread you've been knocked to the ground by a criminal who is continuing the attack
in post 89 this person says he has not called anyone a name or disrespected anone. in this quote i am as much as called a liar and without any valid evidence accused of being the reason they want to take our guns away. if the language used here isnt being disrespectfull what is? i honestly do not mind it when people dissagree with me but lets keep it civil. oh and i try very hard to be safe and legal with my firearm so as not to give the gun-grabbers cause. i can even see where discussing this can cause all of us to make sure we are legal in our own state. and i did check with all those people to make sure i would be legal to use deadly force. i would be. if you disagree with me thats fine with me. again i say lets be civil and agree to disagree.
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ClearSightTactical
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LMAO that was funny, I disagree with most everything you've said...but that was truly hilarious :biggrin:
Man, this site sure does attract its share of trolls, that's for sure. Get rid of one and two come to take it's place. Kinda like cockroaches.
BTW, knock me to the ground and you get shot. What the hell are you carrying a weapon for if you're not gonna use it when you're assaulted? Ho-hum...
BTW, knock me to the ground and you get shot. What the hell are you carrying a weapon for if you're not gonna use it when you're assaulted? Ho-hum...
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