CCW For Military Members on Base

[Jetman 1979]

Having been retired from the millitary since 1994 I will throw in my 2 cents. Service people like to drink the young ones most of all. We all know guns and beer are a recipe for disaster.
I recall times when we still had beer machines in the barricks there were alot of guys that would not know when to stop and things got out of hand. They have removed the machines because the troops could not behave and would destroy walls windows etc.
However here at the JRB base in Fort Worth you can buy weapons at the exchange. Once you buy the you must call security and leave the base. You must tell what you have and what you are driving. I bought a couple of pistols and security sure as hell were right on my tail till I got off base.
You need to buy and get off base ASAP no stoppng to do anything else.

 

[jaxon1174]

Ive been in the USAF for 17+ years, and to my knowledge federal laws make it illegal to carry open or conceiled on a military installation unless in the capacity of official duty. Maybe at one time it was up to the installation commander for that kind of policy. but now a commander can only further restrict the law not lift it. As for carrying to a MWR range on federal land, that is different. Ranges are usually not within the controlled/gated portions of a base. At JB McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst I can transport my firearms (unloaded and cased) to the range but cannot take them on base (unless its directly to your onbase house). I live off base and would very much like to go straight to the range afterwork, but I am not allowed to store my weapons and ammo in my vehicle throughout the day. I have to go home first (past the range) get my weapons/ammo and targets the go back to the range. Its a pain in the ass, but thats the way it is.

Now I have brought my equipment on base with me and went straight to the range after work, but all it will take is one random vehicle inspection and Im busted. Risking UCMJ action after 17 years of honorable service isnt worth it. I wont be doing that anymore. Ive dont my time and can see the light at the end of the tunnel... Dont really feel like spending any part of my last 3 years behind bars...

 

[NavyLCDR]

Ive been in the USAF for 17+ years, and to my knowledge federal laws make it illegal to carry open or conceiled on a military installation unless in the capacity of official duty. Maybe at one time it was up to the installation commander for that kind of policy. but now a commander can only further restrict the law not lift it.

Federal law (18 USC 930) only prohibits carrying firearms in buildings in which Federal employees are present during their normal duties. Outside the buildings, it is still up to the base commander.

 

[jhansonlpn]

Simple answer is CONTROL.

 

[gunnerbob]

Ive been in the USAF for 17+ years, and to my knowledge federal laws make it illegal to carry open or conceiled on a military installation unless in the capacity of official duty. Maybe at one time it was up to the installation commander for that kind of policy. but now a commander can only further restrict the law not lift it. As for carrying to a MWR range on federal land, that is different. Ranges are usually not within the controlled/gated portions of a base. At JB McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst I can transport my firearms (unloaded and cased) to the range but cannot take them on base (unless its directly to your onbase house). I live off base and would very much like to go straight to the range afterwork, but I am not allowed to store my weapons and ammo in my vehicle throughout the day. I have to go home first (past the range) get my weapons/ammo and targets the go back to the range. Its a pain in the ass, but thats the way it is.

Now I have brought my equipment on base with me and went straight to the range after work, but all it will take is one random vehicle inspection and Im busted. Risking UCMJ action after 17 years of honorable service isnt worth it. I wont be doing that anymore. Ive dont my time and can see the light at the end of the tunnel... Dont really feel like spending any part of my last 3 years behind bars...

Isn't it just awful that so many people feel this way serving in the military...? It's like some sort of prison sentence, you gotta do your time before you can go do what you actually want to do with your life. Terrible... I dream about life on the outside everyday, I can't wait to get out.

 

[UATKP]

What bugs me isn't so much not being able to carry on base, but I also have to be unarmed for the 45 minute trip there, and the 45 minute trip back home.

Rhino, its the same with me. I have to travel over an hour to get to the base. So what I did was find a gun shop close to the base, talked to the owner and explained my problem (traveling without my weapon). Now stop by there when I get into town, and they keep my weapon for me while I'm at the base. It might work for you that way...
According to the base regs, coming on base with a weapon is up to the base commander.

 

[cwm1611]

Isn't it just awful that so many people feel this way serving in the military...? It's like some sort of prison sentence, you gotta do your time before you can go do what you actually want to do with your life. Terrible... I dream about life on the outside everyday, I can't wait to get out.

Let's face it, the main reason is that after about 15 yrs and a couple of different CNO's (or the given branch equiv) --- it just ain't the same outfit you signed up for!

 

[mappow]

Let's face it, the main reason is that after about 15 yrs and a couple of different CNO's (or the given branch equiv) --- it just ain't the same outfit you signed up for!

OK we use to call it Lifer syndrome or short timer. NOT a problem there as long it was up front and known. Still believe that a senior E-5 and above with proper instruction should be able to CC/OC with vary few limitations. JMHO. ( We can't trust you to CC/OC, me thinks we just can't trust ya) REALLY????????????

 

[stealthscrape]

New to this forum, but thought I'd throw in my thought on this topic. For myself, I typically have not lived on base throughout my career. I recently decided to live on base due to the cost of living in northern Virginia. I live on the base, in a home with my family. I understand what people are saying about the younger guys in the dorms. I was there once, and I can see where people could be concerned. But, for myself currently, the situation is different than that. I've been in for 10 years and have a family. Anyone who has been in the military knows that typically the area surrounding base is not the nicest and safest area. I chose to protect my family with a concealed weapon. So in terms of going from the gate to my house and vice versa, it'll be a hassle if I can't carry on base. In that situation, I should be able to commute to my home. And yes, we have had break-ins on base and robberies and theft. It's just how it is here. So anyone wondering why I feel the need to have a weapon on base, that is why. I don't even work on this base, and I am solely here for housing.

Point is, not everyone on base is a young lower enlisted guy who lives in the dorms, and if I am able to carry in the state, I should be able to do it from my front door to my destination and back without having to stop outside the gate, unload, and throw my firearm in the trunk.