The answer is simple. We, as Joe Citizens, are expected to abide by the laws of this country and states. So, why should I not expect government sevants, servants of the people, to abide by the laws just as much as I am expected to?
If I am engaging in no activity raising suspicion of a crime, such as eating dinner in a restaraunt at dinner time, watching a movie in a theater, or shopping in a store and a police officer wishes to engage me in an official manner regarding the lawful carriage of my firearm, then it should be a simple matter for me to answer, "No, sir, I would not like to step outside with you for a minute. I would prefer to finish my activity here in peace, thank you!" And then I would expect the officer to obey the same laws I am oberying and say, "Sorry to bother you, I hope you enjoy the rest of your day."
If I am expected to play by the rules, I don't see what is wrong with expecting police officer to play by the rules.
If I, Joe Citizen, walk up to you and ask who you are, to see your ID and a carry permit just because I know or think you are carrying a gun, are you going to show it to me so that I can write down all of your info and check you out via a private investigative service? If the answer is no, then I must ask WHY NOT? What difference does it make, under the same circumstances, if I happen to be wearing a uniform and a badge at the time and want to check you out using law enforcement resources?
I agree. When you are driving and stopped by a cop he asks for your drivers license, do you give it to him? If a person submits to the cop in all other situations why not when you are carrying?
Is that really the best argument you can come up with? 1. In order for the officer to stop my vehicle, he must have personally seen me commit a traffic offense, have a report from another LEO that I committed a traffic offense that they personally witnessed, or have reasonable suspicion that I have committed a crime. Once condition 1. is met, and I am detained by the LEO then 2. I am required, by law, to produce a driver's license. 100% completely different and irrelevent circumstances.
I really do not understand the macho attitude of "I'm standing up for my rights". By causing drama I feel that "Macho Man" is showing that he is not grown up nor has the proper temperate to be carrying a loaded firearm.
Unfortunately, that is all you are going to see on the internet. Is it fair to judge all persons who politely and quietly stand up for their rights by what you see on the internet? The majority of police officers do understand the limits to their authority. The majority of police officers won't hassle you beyond asking, "Officer are you detaining me? If not, then I would choose to not engage in this investigation" because they know that beyond that any further hassle will open them up to civil liability.
We have not become a socialist country YET. Until that happens then we each can have and state our opinion.
We also don't live in a police state, YET. I see nothing wrong with taking the small measures daily to ensure that we don't evolve into a police state.