I live in suffolk county new york WE MUST carry concealed going to a range The law in new york city and the 5 boroughs is you must carry your pistol in a locked box CASE CLOSED
There is no hope for this guy Armed an rdy I guess every time i buy a new pistol and go to the precinct and take my gun out of my holster in front of about 8 to 10 leos and then after they record the serial # put it back in my holster and leave they all should have arrested me I guess yhere not doing there job
The law in suffolk and nassau county is when you purchase a new gun it must be taken to the precinct for inspection it is then added to your ccw license
This discussion borders on the ridiculous. Let me explain a couple of things.
1. NY penal code only allows concealed carry. There is no provision for open carry. The law is not enforced while you are hunting, but tecnically you can't open carry.
2. While some judges put restrictions on your license with the intent that you not carry during some activities, NY Supreme court precedent has been set that "a license to carry is a licence to carry" no matter what restrictions the county judge has put on the license. So while the judge may get mad if you are caught violating the restriction and pull your license (he can at any time no matter what you do), you cannot be prosecuted for carrying illegally if you have a license and are carrying concealed.
3. NY City (5 boroughs) is a totally different animal. NY state licenses are not valid there. NYC is like a different state.
can you tell me what the word restricted means
Ok armed-an-rdy..Lets end this now. You have been quoted letters from judges, actual law and you still insist that everyone in NY with a restricted pistol permit is wrong. As for your question on what restricted means...It means we have limitations on when we can carry. If you have a restricted drivers license, you can still drive but mabye only till 9pm. If you go to the white house you can still get in but your restricted to certain areas. If you have a restricted pistol permit you can still carry concealed, but only to and from what the restriction says. My permit says recreational purposes. I know that is vague, but I have written instructions from the judge stating that I can carry concealed to and from..hiking, golfing,walking, riding a bike, riding an atv or snowmobile, jogging, boating, birdwatching, at work, bowling, hunting, target practice, and many other "recreational activities". You say that if the right LEO stops me, I will be in trouble. I cant be arrested, i cant lose my permit unless I do something stupid or illegal. But I will tell you this, I cant because of my restriction, go to the store at 1am to pick up some milk(unless im walking) and carry concealed. Hope you understand now.
i didnt know work was recreation
armed-and-not-so-ready sounds like a Trol....hmmm forget my name for second.
(state law - not NYC law)
Law is clear (go read before commenting):
Article 400 - Penal Law - Licensing and Other Provisions Relating to Firearms
All types of permit are to carry concealed. They mention that in the text of the law. THE ONLY exception is antique/collector license - it does not state concealed.
All permits issued under 400.2 f are concealed carry. ALL.
Restrictions are Administrative rules and do not have power of law; BUT state of NY is May issue state, so they can revoke your license for ANY reason (including sky is blue).
Those case were never re-litigated after Mcdonald and Heller.
The Westchester case will provide a lot of guidance of how that will go.
Open carry is not authorized by 260 f ( before thinking of logical exceptions - go look at language there is no exceptions, yes hunting and other activities do not have exception under it - is anyone surprised that NY laws are vague and contradictory???)
So (outside NYC only) you can carry on sportsman, knowing that if issuing authority finds out (police reports it to them) you might loose it.
If someone thinks above is wrong...please provide LAW , cases ..something not just your "logical" thoughts.
Sincerely,
TROL
armed-and-not-so-ready sounds like a Trol....hmmm forget my name for second.
(state law - not NYC law)
Law is clear (go read before commenting):
Article 400 - Penal Law - Licensing and Other Provisions Relating to Firearms
All types of permit are to carry concealed. They mention that in the text of the law. THE ONLY exception is antique/collector license - it does not state concealed.
All permits issued under 400.2 f are concealed carry. ALL.
Restrictions are Administrative rules and do not have power of law; BUT state of NY is May issue state, so they can revoke your license for ANY reason (including sky is blue).
Those case were never re-litigated after Mcdonald and Heller.
The Westchester case will provide a lot of guidance of how that will go.
Open carry is not authorized by 260 f ( before thinking of logical exceptions - go look at language there is no exceptions, yes hunting and other activities do not have exception under it - is anyone surprised that NY laws are vague and contradictory???)
So (outside NYC only) you can carry on sportsman, knowing that if issuing authority finds out (police reports it to them) you might loose it.
If someone thinks above is wrong...please provide LAW , cases ..something not just your "logical" thoughts.
Sincerely,
TROL
armed-and-not-so-ready sounds like a Trol....hmmm forget my name for second.
(state law - not NYC law)
Law is clear (go read before commenting):
Article 400 - Penal Law - Licensing and Other Provisions Relating to Firearms
All types of permit are to carry concealed. They mention that in the text of the law. THE ONLY exception is antique/collector license - it does not state concealed.
All permits issued under 400.2 f are concealed carry. ALL.
Restrictions are Administrative rules and do not have power of law; BUT state of NY is May issue state, so they can revoke your license for ANY reason (including sky is blue).
Those case were never re-litigated after Mcdonald and Heller.
The Westchester case will provide a lot of guidance of how that will go.
Open carry is not authorized by 260 f ( before thinking of logical exceptions - go look at language there is no exceptions, yes hunting and other activities do not have exception under it - is anyone surprised that NY laws are vague and contradictory???)
So (outside NYC only) you can carry on sportsman, knowing that if issuing authority finds out (police reports it to them) you might loose it.
If someone thinks above is wrong...please provide LAW , cases ..something not just your "logical" thoughts.
Sincerely,
TROL
What NYS law prohibits open carry by someone with a concealed carry permit?
armed-and-not-so-ready sounds like a Trol....hmmm forget my name for second.
(state law - not NYC law)
Law is clear (go read before commenting):
Article 400 - Penal Law - Licensing and Other Provisions Relating to Firearms
All types of permit are to carry concealed. They mention that in the text of the law. THE ONLY exception is antique/collector license - it does not state concealed.
All permits issued under 400.2 f are concealed carry. ALL.
Restrictions are Administrative rules and do not have power of law; BUT state of NY is May issue state, so they can revoke your license for ANY reason (including sky is blue).
Those case were never re-litigated after Mcdonald and Heller.
The Westchester case will provide a lot of guidance of how that will go.
Open carry is not authorized by 260 f ( before thinking of logical exceptions - go look at language there is no exceptions, yes hunting and other activities do not have exception under it - is anyone surprised that NY laws are vague and contradictory???)
So (outside NYC only) you can carry on sportsman, knowing that if issuing authority finds out (police reports it to them) you might loose it.
If someone thinks above is wrong...please provide LAW , cases ..something not just your "logical" thoughts.
Sincerely,
TROL
you canot carry conceal with a sportsman restriction unless you also have a hunting license
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