I guess the question is when you are in fear for your life. I obviously don't advocate shooting anyone because I got punched, but my point was that I think a woman might be able to where a guy cannot. Recently, we had a guy beat to death outside a bar here in town; and of course that happens everywhere, all the time, it seems. So, I don't know...when you say "shoot if you get punched" it doesn't sound right, but it only takes one good punch or kick to the head and you're serously injured or dead. I have already stated my personal philosophy of self-defense (be aware, don't go where you shouldn't, leave), but I think it's encumbent upon all CCW holders to develop their own, within the confines of the law.