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Exercising your rights, and exercising common sense, are often two very different things. This guy's lack of common sense, and lack of common courtesy for his neighbors, ia stunning. This is the type of moron, who gives shooters a bad reputation. In most towns noise ordinances, or laws regarding discharging a firearm within city limits, would outlaw his stupidity.

No, YOU are a perfect example of a moron who knows nothing about RIGHTS...

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lt has been inspected and has been found by the representatives of law enforcement to BE SAFE!!!!!! So you have no effing clue what you are saying.

If that's the case, more power to him! I still feel that people shouldn't shoot at ranges that aren't safe.
 
If that's the case, more power to him! I still feel that people shouldn't shoot at ranges that aren't safe.

So, you ADMIT you have been running your mouth (fingers) without actually reading what the heck it is you are talking about in the first place? wow, troll much?

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So, you ADMIT you have been running your mouth (fingers) without actually reading what the heck it is you are talking about in the first place? wow, troll much?

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No, I was running nothing. I read a number of articles on the matter, not one of them said that his range was inspected by any "representatives of law enforcement." If you can link to an article saying so, I'd be happy to read it. Thanks!
 
No, I was running nothing. I read a number of articles on the matter, not one of them said that his range was inspected by any "representatives of law enforcement." If you can link to an article saying so, I'd be happy to read it. Thanks!

The article under the video in the original post.... wow, that was soooooooo hard for me to find.

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The article under the video in the original post.... wow, that was soooooooo hard for me to find.

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Here is the entire text of that article:
While the range is situated just feet away from homes where children live, police say it is perfectly legal, according to Florida law, for Joseph Carannate to build a gun range in his front yard.

“I don’t know if this idiot is gonna start popping off rounds,” neighbor Patrick Leary told WFLA. “You heard him say, ‘Oh, I’ll tell the neighbors when I’m getting ready to fire,’ — what, then we call gather our children and then we hide in a safe room or something ridiculous? Come on.”

Another neighbor said she will “lose the enjoyment” of her property.

“Even to the most pro-gun person to have a gun range in the middle of a residential neighborhood makes no sense whatsoever,” said County Commissioner Ken Welch – who also happens to be a neighbor of Carannate. “So I’m hoping we can get to some common ground and some common sense.”

Carannate, though, maintains he is well within his rights and says he does not want to hurt anybody, and just wants to use the gun range for his own enjoyment. And the police acknowledge that he is within his rights, although they will monitor his use of the range. Check out his homemade range here-

No where in that entire article does it say his range was ever inspected. The word "inspected" doesn't even appear in that article. Again, I read a number of articles on the matter, not one of them said that his range was inspected by any "representatives of law enforcement." If you can link to an article saying so, I'd be happy to read it. Thanks!
 
Here is the entire text of that article:


No where in that entire article does it say his range was ever inspected. The word "inspected" doesn't even appear in that article. Again, I read a number of articles on the matter, not one of them said that his range was inspected by any "representatives of law enforcement." If you can link to an article saying so, I'd be happy to read it. Thanks!

read the comments too idjit.....

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read the comments too idjit.....

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Awww, poor Libtards, crying that someone is using their property the way they want to.
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Michael Salb · Top Commenter · North American Lineman Training Center- Official
I'm about as pro gun as it gets but this guy is not in an area where you shouldn't be shooting guns with kids running around and stuff off that nature his backstop can barely be considered a backstop as a neighbor it's just a **** move
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John Best · Top Commenter · Chicago, Illinois
I'm sure those neighbors wouldn't care if their was a meth lab or pot garden, but they get their thongs in a bunch when a law abiding citizen practices his constitutional rights.
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Mike Davis · Top Commenter
That's not much of a backstop.
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Scott Anderson · Top Commenter · Cape Fear Community College
I am a super pro gun guy but this is crazy. Not because he wants to shoot in his back yard but that has go to be the lamest "gun range" I've ever seen. There are no safeguards for an accidental shot. A gun range should have a much wider and taller barrier to catch any errant shot. The man is a fool and the city should pass a law regulating the size of safety barrier.
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Steve Apple · Works at The Brink's Company
Brian Moyer- Then let him build his range facing your house with that mickey mouse backstop.
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Michael Salb · Top Commenter · North American Lineman Training Center- Official
John best that is one of the most ignorant stupidest things I've ever read
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Frank Embrey · Follow · Top Commenter · Works at Self-Employed
Michael Salb and why cops got gun range close to home in fairfax co??????
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Earl E. Reeves Jr · Top Commenter
John Best I've seen some ignorant comments, and so far today yours is at the top of the list. That is the most pitiful excuse for a safe "Gun Range" I've ever seen. You want to do this then go to the country and not in a residential neighborhood. To say they would welcome a Meth lab or pot garden is just about as dumb a statement as there is.
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Nate Max · Follow · Top Commenter
If anything the boy should have built up his target area torwads his own house instead of towards the side of the yard that way he would be shooting towards his own house instead of pointing towards the neighbors home if he missed he would hit his own house
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Michael McAnarney · Top Commenter
Agreed.
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Dan Dugo · Top Commenter · Ft. Zumwalt South
Look, I am the most pro-gun person there can be and believe everyone law abiding citizens of the USA (and the world) should be armed and carrying. This "range" however does not meet even minimum safety standards. If, he wants to have a gun range in his backyard, fine if i had the funds I would have one too, but you gotta make it a proper safe gun range. It would cost roughly $2,000-2,500 to build a 1 lane gun range that anything from a 22lr-500 s&w wouldn't be about to get through, and it would be perfectly safe.
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Mark Wiley · Top Commenter
Unless you miss it.
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Dan Dugo · Top Commenter · Ft. Zumwalt South
Mark, I don't think you are understanding what I am saying for that much money you could make an indoor 1 lane shooting range. To where it would be IMPOSSIBLE to shootout of it.
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Curtis Anderson · Top Commenter
His mound of sand will be adequate for his 9mm—if every shot is on target. Even the best shooters sometimes flinch or jerk the trigger and send one wild. I think he needs a wall or some other backdrop angled to deflect the bullets safely and walls on the sides. He's got a big pile of sand in his yard. How long until a little boy leaves a metal toy car or rock on the sand pile? Unless he is careful, something like that could cause a dangerous ricochet. If there is the slightest accident, he is going to be sued. I respect his right to do this, but I think he should think it through a little more. It is one thing to shoot at a bunch of dirt out in the country miles from any houses, but it is a lot more risky in a neighborhood.
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Jack O Lantern · Top Commenter · Almere-Stad, Flevoland, Netherlands
The back drop is unreasonably inadequate. he does need a much larger backdrop with a better method of retaining the sand. maybe if he had that and 5 rows deep of sand bags behing it running the length and height of his fence I could see where he has a valid point. But this pallet and sand box looks like something a liberal would build to further degrade rights. once you see what he built no one with any firearms expiernce can agree this to be safe with kids Or adults running around behind it.
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John Best · Top Commenter · Chicago, Illinois
Obviously it must be OK or the God forsaken libs would have hired an attorney to shut him down.
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John Best · Top Commenter · Chicago, Illinois
We sure have a lot of structional engineers who are experts on how to build a range posting here.
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Mike Davis · Top Commenter
I would have a problem with this too unless he built a berm that surrounded the shooters on three sides just like the pistol pits at my gun club.
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Dan Dugo · Top Commenter · Ft. Zumwalt South
John, it doesn't take being a structional engineer to know how to build a safe shooting range, all it takes is a little common sense and a little bit of structural know how which any of average intelligence should have.
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Earl E. Reeves Jr · Top Commenter
Curtis Anderson I have 3 acres in a semi-residential area. I would not pile a bunch of sand in my yard and call it a gun range. I have too much respect for my neighbors and their safety. I have 4 acres in the country with a hell of a big elm tree to shoot at.
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David Byers · Top Commenter
They are all idiots..but bottom line just because you can doesn't always mean you should. There used to be this thing called common sense.
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Robert Haight · Top Commenter · Process Quality Engineer at Sikorsky Aircraft
would much rather hear this, than a 1,000 watt boom box at anytime and anywhere.
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Mark Reinsmith · Top Commenter · Detroit, Michigan
I shoot my Guns Every week. I'm all about the 2nd ammendment and shall not be infringed, but with that comes Responsibility, Safety and Common Sense. I commend him for exercisig his rights of gun ownership, But he's an idiot and only setting responsible gun ownership backwards by pressing this issue. Bullets Ricochet, guns misfire and accidents happen. This is a very UNSAFE range setup and I agree if he was going to build an irresponsible range he should have pointed it at his own house.
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Justin Chasser · Follow · Top Commenter · Works at Yo Mama's House
FREEDOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Gary Walton · Top Commenter · Pyeongtaek
Shut up and cut your grass.
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Donald Richardson · Top Commenter · Petersburg, Indiana
Wow that guy must have been a professional range builder. That thing look great!. It was so huge too! Big enough to catch a stray bullet. (sarcasm) He looks like he is in his early 20's when we were all young and dumb. I would have done something stupid like that too but his dad needs to step in and give him the "common sense" talk. There are a lot of things we have the "right" to do but dont because of common sense.
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Bill Madara · Top Commenter · Norwich, Connecticut
Hell no. There is no one more pro gun rights and pro property rights than me but this "range" is completely unsafe. Sure the berm at the back will stop his 9mm round, if he hits it and if he doesn't have an AD.
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Pete Conlon · Top Commenter · Yonkers, New York
I'm no liberal, but this idiot gives responsible gun owners a bad name.
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Mark Wiley · Top Commenter
He is an idiot, I hope that they stop him.
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John Best · Top Commenter · Chicago, Illinois
Why? For following local laws and the constitution. Maybe " they" should stop you from making idiotic comments ( which you can because of the constitution).
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Dwayne Sanders · Top Commenter · Crown Point High School
Wish I can put a range in my back yard
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Curtis Anderson · Top Commenter
If it is legal and he's being safe, I have no problem with him using his land as he wishes. However, he should take some consideration for his neighbors whether he's within his rights or not. Instead of giving them a learning moment about freedom and gun safety, he is likely just driving them into the "ban all guns" camp. If every shot he makes is well aimed, his mound of sand should be adequate—if... I think he should at least have some cinder blocks or a brick wall behind the sand. 9mm, which is what Carannate says he'll be shooting. is a pretty weak bullet, but it still has the potential of doing harm. I've thought about moving so that I would have a place to shoot my guns without having to pack up a bunch of gear, driving twenty or so miles, paying a range fee....
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John Best · Top Commenter · Chicago, Illinois
No shooting before 10AM and after 9 PM.
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Joseph Dixon · Top Commenter · Tampa, Florida
I have and still do live in St. Petersburg Fl. Outdoor gun ranges were and still are the norm. I remember in my youth attending an outdoor range named he St. Petersburg Police Gun Club off of 1street North and 44th ave. North at the foot of the Shore acres community. I also remember folks target practicing in their back yards in my neighborhood in the Woodlawn area and that was the 1970's. I see no problem with what he is doing and if his little range is built correctly and its strong enough then so what?" The young man seems to me to be responsible enough.
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Steve Watts · Utah State University
Oh boy, media spin favor the PC idiots. I don't think it's neighborly, the you man should of put his target container toward his house. The real fools is the city ordnance people. Most urban zoning areas prohibit gunfire period. There's many nice pellet guns, perfect for practice. Now this guy has a bunch of drama queens for neighbors. That's why I bought few rural acres just so I can play with my tannerite any time I wish. All 4 of my neighbors do the same. We shure don't need 911 out here.
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Wes Johnston · Top Commenter · Goose Creek High School
His backstop is insufficient. Yeah, I'm a gun guy and I'm not opposed to /what/ he's doing.... I'm opposed to /how/ he's doing it. If he's going to shoot in such a tight area, he needs better containment. A few pallets lashed together to hold in some sand isn't the best way.... or even the way you should be doing it in a neighborhood. One of the old school hollywood stars (James Cagney??) had a gun range in his basement... it was a drain culvert 50' long buried out the side of his basement across the yard.
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John MacLean · Top Commenter · Port Saint Lucie, Florida
Florida 790.15 Discharging firearm in public or on residential property. or who recklessly or negligently discharges a firearm outdoors on any property used primarily as the site of a dwelling as defined in s. 776.013 or zoned exclusively for residential use commits a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
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Nathaniel Fox · Palm Beach State College
This is a new law that lets you shoot in your yard passed this year i belive
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Janet L Smith · Top Commenter · Rapid City, South Dakota
I am pro-gun. I think if the anti gun people would just shut up and leave our 2A alone then we would not have gun ranges in neighborhoods and people would not be carrying rifles around. So libtards do you think it is about time to leave us alone and up hold the constitution?
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Mike Miller · Top Commenter · Fuquay-Varina, North Carolina
Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should. I use to have a range in my backyard. My neighbors would come over and use it. There was nothing but woods for over a mile until they started building a subdivision back there. I stopped shooting and moved.
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Roy C. Turner · Top Commenter · The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga
I have a neighbor that has a gun range in his backyard. Makes the wife nervous but he is free to do it and I cannot complain. I do not want his freedom taken away by Liberal thugs.
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Jason West · Palo Alto College, San Antonio
At least us rednecks in soth Texas require you to own 10 acres and no firearms are allowed to be discharged in the city limits.
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Cathy Betsill Singletary · Top Commenter
Is there a law in Florida that states citizens have a right to a peaceful existence? I'm pro gun but this is going way too far.
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Gary White · Top Commenter
How about passing a city ordinance against gun ranges in residential neighborhoods?
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Curtis Anderson · Top Commenter
I'm sure that's on its way.
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Robert Bruce Bagnall · Follow · Top Commenter · Founder at HomaGrown
Yea we need more laws to add to the thousands we already have that further makes our lives subject to interpetation by law enforcers allowing them to essentially become judge jury and exectutioner.
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Doug Woodard · Owner at Self-Employed
just buy a silencer,, help keep the noise down,, keep the fences tight ,, enjoy.......
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Angel M. Noble · Top Commenter · Up, up and away at RETIREMENT
Has nothing to do with Liberals, this is an accident waiting to happen. BTW, pro-gun all the way.
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John Best · Top Commenter · Chicago, Illinois
Sure you are. Maybe this guy is well schooled in handling a firearm. Maybe you're an accident waiting to happen, but others may be a bit more careful and don't go off all half cocked.
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Angel M. Noble · Top Commenter · Up, up and away at RETIREMENT
I'm 72 years old, have been around guns for a long time. I even taught my children how to handle rifles, and handguns. In the house guns were always loaded. My son at age 10, had his own loaded 22 rifle in his closet. He would take it out when we went shooting, never played with it, neither did my daughters. Responsibility goes a long way. To this day they still know how to handle them. Still, this man should not be allowed to fire his guns in his front yard, there are places for that. We used to go out in the desert, nobody around for miles.
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Dean Weimer · Follow · Top Commenter · Rescue Tech at Roco Rescue
Come on John Best.. Man I have many small countries out gunned... But I also have an 8yo wife and daughter living at my house.. I would have a problem if this guy built that to shoot at towards my house! Even worse we are talking about a 21 yo.. Who very well could have a few of his buddies over and we know how 21 yo's think... That is no where sufficient to be a backstop. It may not be an accident waiting to happen but why take the chance with your neighbors lives?
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Bryan Gay · Top Commenter · Tucson, Arizona
we did this at my uncle house too but we were in AR in the sticks on 20 acres. The guy should go to the gun range if in town.
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James Maddux · Top Commenter
I am pro gun but this is just irresponsible. Bullets are unpredictable
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Danny Nagel · Woodland, Alabama
Bullets are unpredictable! In what way? Mine go exactly where I aim, +-3-4 inches. The shooter is the variable in this scenario. Nabors should quit pissing and moaning and chip in to get him in the local range. Maybe build a community sponsored gun range they could all enjoy.
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John Best · Top Commenter · Chicago, Illinois
Sounds awesome. Wish I could do that. Saves on having to pay for range time.
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Gerald Fifield · Top Commenter · Box Elder High School
Whiny a$$ liberals, leave him alone.
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Carolyn Domingue Thompson · Follow · Server at Golden coral
this is an accident waiting to happen
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Jim Rohl · Works at In the backyard
Watch out someone don't POP him
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Daniel Lamb · Top Commenter · Classsified at Top Secret
i like guns but thats dangerous
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Dwayne Sanders · Top Commenter · Crown Point High School
Dont like it move

Not even a mention of the word "inspected." Even if there was, I'm not as willing as you seem to be to take the word of random Facebook posters as fact.


Again, I read a number of articles on the matter, not one of them said that his range was inspected by any "representatives of law enforcement." If you can link to an article saying so, I'd be happy to read it. Thanks!
 
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No, I was running nothing. I read a number of articles on the matter, not one of them said that his range was inspected by any "representatives of law enforcement." If you can link to an article saying so, I'd be happy to read it. Thanks!

VIDEO: Man Builds Legal Gun Range In Front Yard. Outrages Neighbors

And the police acknowledge that he is within his rights, although they will monitor his use of the range.

How are they going to monitor it if they don't know where it is at and what it looks like?
 
I can't watch the video right now, but I will when I get the chance. The article that goes along with that video says nothing about any inspection.

How are they going to monitor it if they don't know where it is at and what it looks like?
Who said anything about them not knowing where it is or what it looks like? When did I mention a single word about monitoring anything? You do understand that there is more to an inspection than knowing where something is and what it looks like, right? I know where the White House is and what it looks like, but I've never inspected it.
 
I'm loath to bring it up, but wouldn't you think a development like that would have an, ugh, HOA? And wouldn't any covenants pretty much preclude such a construction in the first place? I hate to put up use of an HOA as way to solve the problem, but that seems the kind of thing they do all the time.

And I'm still curious how St Pete doesn't have a no shooting in city limits ordinance, like most every urban area in the country.

There's no need to make a new state law, that's bound to be badly written and have unintended consequences.
 
I'm loath to bring it up, but wouldn't you think a development like that would have an, ugh, HOA? And wouldn't any covenants pretty much preclude such a construction in the first place? I hate to put up use of an HOA as way to solve the problem, but that seems the kind of thing they do all the time.

And I'm still curious how St Pete doesn't have a no shooting in city limits ordinance, like most every urban area in the country.

There's no need to make a new state law, that's bound to be badly written and have unintended consequences.

I grew up in St. Pete. As soon as you get more than 1/4 from the water it turns into a strange mishmash of ghetto/white trash/Cubano wannabe gangster neighborhoods. I'm really not too surprised that there isn't a law or that there is one that's not efficiently enforced.
 
You out of staters forget a few things about Florida law? Like the fact that like many other states, a city cannot write a firearms law. It's called preemption. Dade County is one of the few in Florida that can but even then only about certain things. This is not one of them. If the property is zoned residential, then the state law kicks in. Shooting after 11PM or before 7AM weekdays ( 12Midnight to 7AM Friday + Saturday ) would cause him problems in Dade residential areas but not on a gun charge. It would be a misdemeanor charge of Section 21-28 at most. A Noise Code violation. But I can get that just for watering the yard after 8PM and before 7AM with a Diesel pump. And even that code gets tossed out on really cold nights as there is an ag exemption for noise on nights when there are frost warnings. Or during watering restrictions.
 
You out of staters forget a few things about Florida law? Like the fact that like many other states, a city cannot write a firearms law. It's called preemption. Dade County is one of the few in Florida that can but even then only about certain things. This is not one of them. If the property is zoned residential, then the state law kicks in. Shooting after 11PM or before 7AM weekdays ( 12Midnight to 7AM Friday + Saturday ) would cause him problems in Dade residential areas but not on a gun charge. It would be a misdemeanor charge of Section 21-28 at most. A Noise Code violation. But I can get that just for watering the yard after 8PM and before 7AM with a Diesel pump. And even that code gets tossed out on really cold nights as there is an ag exemption for noise on nights when there are frost warnings. Or during watering restrictions.

Statutes & Constitution :View Statutes : Online Sunshine

One bullet leaves his property and he violates state law. The penalty is up to one year in jail and $1,000 fine. And that is only if no one is injured by the stray bullet.
 
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