Immigration fiasco will be a headache for a long time to come.

It was Obama and his merry band of minions. Crime runs deep in this administration, and it wouldn't surprise me if Obama/Holder and other cohorts on the wrong side of the law just happened to have transportation, food, water and basic medical supplies. The "runners" were paid well from our own government, or others.

They've been shuttling illegals for a long time. This invasion has Obama's stench all over it.
 
It was Obama and his merry band of minions. Crime runs deep in this administration, and it wouldn't surprise me if Obama/Holder and other cohorts on the wrong side of the law just happened to have transportation, food, water and basic medical supplies. The "runners" were paid well from our own government, or others.

They've been shuttling illegals for a long time. This invasion has Obama's stench all over it.

No administration ever really did anything actively to stop illegal immigration dating back from the day we acquired the territories. It wasn't a big deal back then, and it's too big a problem now to deal with.

Both parties are afraid to solve this problem. Democrats stand to lose the fastest growing voting population and Republicans are looking for ways to gain it.
 
No administration ever really did anything actively to stop illegal immigration dating back from the day we acquired the territories. It wasn't a big deal back then, and it's too big a problem now to deal with.

Both parties are afraid to solve this problem. Democrats stand to lose the fastest growing voting population and Republicans are looking for ways to gain it.
Everything has to be politically motivated. Our government is out of control. Political clowns from both sides better figure something out mutually beneficial, that doesn't leave we, the taxpayer with another impossible to pay debt, and millions of unwanted illegals, on top of the trillions of unpaid debt.

Our financial collapse is looming, and we keep printing funny money, throwing it at every problem, real or imagined, jockeying for political gain while we pawns languish in our own dung-pile of debt and taxes.

There better be a bi-partisan solution, but I'm dreaming glitter and unicorns.
 
No administration ever really did anything actively to stop illegal immigration dating back from the day we acquired the territories...

But until now, there has NEVER been any indication that an administration actually promoted it, blatantly advocated it, then requested 3.8 billion?; not to secure the border, but to feed, clothe, and lawyer up the illegals.
 
But until now, there has NEVER been any indication that an administration actually promoted it, blatantly advocated it, then requested 3.8 billion?; not to secure the border, but to feed, clothe, and lawyer up the illegals.

I agree that was not very logical of him.....he knows nobody will give him 4 billion dollars so it was a moot point.
 
I agree that was not very logical of him.....he knows nobody will give him 4 billion dollars so it was a moot point.
Obama may not get 4 billion, as that was his "high" bid. You may bet your sweet ass he will get something, so whodat's observations are anything but moot.
 
I stole this, but it hit's the nail on the head. Again, the administration tries to divert the sheeples attention from the true problem.
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Puzzle for you all: Imagine you are a 3 year old to 8 year old child. You are on your own without adults. You are asked to walk from Houston, Texas to Minneapolis, Minnesota on your own with no food or belongings to sustain you. Could you do it? How long would it take you as a 6 year old? That is the minimum distance these "poor, helpless" little ones have supposedly walked to America, again, on their own. They didn't get lost. And they survived the journey without help.
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Now, on the map above, you must start somewhere in the green area. Let's make it easy and start where green meets orange, so that you have the least mileage. Blue, of course, is water. Your task is to figure a route from the green area to the purple area without going through the blue areas. The black line is the distance from the nearest town to Mexico's southern border that touches the green area to Laredo, Texas, one of the CLOSEST purple towns. 1220 miles across desert and mountains with no equipment or food or help.
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If orange had stopped these innocents where orange touches green, problem would not have occurred. However, what six year old do you know who could walk 1220 miles (minimum), probably more like 1500 miles on their own without dying? How many days would it take for a 6 year old to walk 1220 miles without help, directions, food, sun protection, etc.? That dog just don't hunt. I don't think the truth is being given to us, folks. Someone created and assisted this, and the media should be figuring out who it is.

The media's job is (no longer) to figure out anything for themselves. Even FOX is for the most part, disinterested observers. There are at least two active and known-about cover-ups going on right this minute, Fast & Furious and the IRS targeting issues. Maybe Hume, Hannity, Kelly et al are waiting for a Republican Senate before calling for impeachment or special prosecutors etc., but they barely pay the notions lip-service at this point, while the rest of the lame stream continues reporting on "tea-baggers" etc. The media is not "us" anymore, if it indeed ever was, and even the controlled opposition, FOX, is doing a lousy job of opposing any aspect of government criminal activity on our behalf.

As far as the "puzzle" goes, I think that's pretty easy - coyotes are taking charge of groups of unsupervised children and loading them in, hanging off of and riding on top of "Death Trains" as they are given free passage by the Mexican government for that 1220 mile trip. What happens after they get here you touched on below, and I'll re-address that in a sec.

And then there's this, above and beyond the job ads for escorts:
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Already covered in Post #4, but what I said about it bears repeating since it was completely ignored:

Or how about let's call "illegal immigration" what it really is: modern slavery. At least that's a reasonable assessment in Murrieta, CA as of yesterday's Link Removed.

Murrieta, CA- An ad in the local Penny Saver in Murrieta, California caught the attention of residents today. The ad, which was put up by the Crittenton Services and Foster Family Agency or (FFA) claims to be looking for families who will help provide homes for foster children as well as for “unaccompanied refugee minors”.

Benswann.com called Crittenton FFA, which is located in Orange County and provides services for Los Angeles County Department of Children and Family Services, and found that for those willing to a take in a child under the age of 16, you can receive up to $854.00 tax free per month. For those taking in a child over 16, the total is $1,008.00 per month in reimbursement. If you have a 5 bedroom house and can take in as many as 6 children, you can receive reimbursement of up to $6,054.00 per month tax free.

(My Note: Picture of Penny Saver ad at link - Take a look and see your tax dollars at work!)

Over $6K a month for ready-made and no-paid cooks, babysitters, housekeepers, landscapers and "whatevers" ain't bad "work" if ya can get it, eh?

Kenyans have been involved in the slave-trade since waaaaayy before the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo in 1848....

And a Kenyan has yet another slave-trade that he controls going on in this country right this minute. And people are telling us we should "respect" the Supreme Court if we're constitutional "purists!" Pffft.

I might no agree with you, but it don't go around calling names and making assumptions about you. I certainly hope this is how you plan to further your agenda when encounter someone who disagree with you.

You implied here that I called you names. Care to substantiate that before I reply to your demand that I "respect" the Supreme Court? Good luck with that.

Blues
 
Just a few comments

As a constitutional purist, you then recognize the powers granted to the courts by the constitution in Article III.

With that said, the Supreme Court is the only court that can resolve matters regarding the constitution. The 4th amendment granted government agents power to search and seize if done in a reasonable manner, and the Supreme Court had determined that cursory seizures such as the ones set up at fixed points, within a reasonable distance from the border as reasonable. It's the law of the land, respect it.

I do respect the law of the land, the Supreme Court, nor any other branch of government, decidedly does not.

The 4th Amendment gave very specific guidance concerning how "reasonable" searches and seizures are to be conducted:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Nowhere in Link Removed is the high Court given authority to "interpret" anything that is written in the Constitution or subsequent amendments. They are charged by the Constitution with the responsibility to judge disputes based on what is written, without respect to their personal views or ideologies. The Supreme Court has become nothing but a political entity, starting (at least) with them "ruling" themselves more power and authority than The People granted them in The Constitution with "judicial review" in Marbury vs. Madison in 1803. If not before then, at least since then, they have been a criminal and treasonous enterprise. They are not authorized to lower standards set in the 4th Amendment from "probable cause" to "reasonable articulable suspicion" or to put time limits on the word "reasonable" when time has nothing to do with the restrictions upon them specifically articulated in the amendment.

I have zero respect for such unabashed crimes against The People! And I consider it treasonous activity to boot, which, added to all the other treason committed by nearly every Congress-critter and President to ever be elected, makes this government wholly illegitimate, completely unworthy of respect by anyone who respects and reveres the Constitution.

The same applied to DUI check points. The Supreme Court applied the same logic here with respect to DUI check points, and determined if done correctly and reasonable it is not unconstitutional. Some states do not allow it altogether, and some states do. In states that allow it, there are disclosure requirements to the public on when and where the stops would be conducted. You may not agree with the outcome, but it's the law of the land. Respect it.

I'll respect the court and whatever you say when the court and you start speaking from a position of respecting, but more importantly, adhering to, the Constitution.

The 4th amendment does not ban all search and seizure by the government. In fact, it allows it, as long as it is done reasonably.

And what We, The People consider "reasonable" is very clearly defined after the word "unreasonable" is written. Respect it.

The Supreme Court determined DUI check points and border patrol check points are constitutional.

They also decided that it was within their authority to rewrite the word "fine" to "tax" in order to "make" ObamaCare "constitutional." They are traitors to the Constitution, not protectors or watchmen for its unambiguous laws protecting The People's God-given rights.

Not sure what infringement you were referring to. Reasonable Search and seizures are both intrusions specifically allowed by the constitution.

Not without probable cause they're not. Not without particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized within the warrants that shall not be issued without such descriptions, they're not. Respect it!

The 4th Amendment needs no "interpretation" or "judicial review." It is clear as a bell what it means. RESPECT IT!!!

I can make the same argument that you really don't have to drive through the check point because you know where it is, and driving is not a right so you can do away with driving then you wouldn't be subjected to these check points.....?

You can make any argument you wish to make, but if they don't comport with the text of the 4th Amendment (for the purposes of this limited discussion only), then they're not worthy of consideration or respect.

And here in AL, you're wrong, it is up to the citizen to subscribe to the only (far-left) newspaper available here if you want to get notified of where the stops are being set up. I will not be forced by my government to subscribe (support) companies that I don't support. RESPECT IT!!!

Blues
 
The media's job is (no longer) to figure out anything for themselves.
I think that while the republicans are constantly hounded by Reid about the Koch brothers, the GOP should be pointing out all the connections (and control) that the Dem's have with the media, and the fact that those media moguls that run the show don't even care if their ratings are in the tank as long as they move the agenda forward, or divert attention with small shiny things.
As far as the "puzzle" goes, I think that's pretty easy - coyotes are taking charge of groups of unsupervised children and loading them in, hanging off of and riding on top of "Death Trains" as they are given free passage by the Mexican government for that 1220 mile trip. What happens after they get here you touched on below, and I'll re-address that in a sec.
BUT, Mexico isn't going to give anything away for free. The passengers might not be charged, but I would bet dollars to donuts that a connection could be made from our "foreign aid" to some officials pocket(s) that set up the transit, or merely looked the other way.
Mexico, Guatemala fast-track delivery of illegals to U.S.
 
We shouldn't be indulging him by calling him "Stengun".

Truth in advertising should prevail, demanding that he be called MP3008, a counterfeit Nazi "Sten gun":

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Dr. Ruth was actually a sniper in the organization that pre-dated the Israeli Defense Force, and in an interview said she could still assemble and load a Sten blindfolded.
 
BUT, Mexico isn't going to give anything away for free. The passengers might not be charged, but I would bet dollars to donuts that a connection could be made from our "foreign aid" to some officials pocket(s) that set up the transit, or merely looked the other way.
Mexico, Guatemala fast-track delivery of illegals to U.S.

I guess "unobstructed" passage would've been a better word, but you're right in any case. I also addressed a potential "fee" that Obama may "owe" and have already paid the Mexicans in the same post where I addressed the Murrieta Penny Saver ad - I posited that it may be the quashing of the Keystone Pipeline by Obama that ensures oil keeps getting purchased from Mexico that "paid" for the Death Trains to roll unobstructed. But who knows? It could be that or any combination of other corrupt arrangements between globalists on both (and all) sides of the border(s).

Blues
 
I guess "unobstructed" passage would've been a better word, but you're right in any case. I also addressed a potential "fee" that Obama may "owe" and have already paid the Mexicans in the same post where I addressed the Murrieta Penny Saver ad - I posited that it may be the quashing of the Keystone Pipeline by Obama that ensures oil keeps getting purchased from Mexico that "paid" for the Death Trains to roll unobstructed. But who knows? It could be that or any combination of other corrupt arrangements between globalists on both (and all) sides of the border(s).

Blues

You are such a conspiracy theory, right wing extremist tea bagger!!!:biggrin:
 
Howdy Blues,

You have no real idea.....I keep most of my views and "activities" very close to the vest. LOL

Sure we do. You're just another right wing extremist tea bagger that post all the kooky conspiracy theory BS from your Mom's basement.......uh, I mean your "Command Post". Back in the "Day" a few of you that your Moms would actually let you go places in public, like gun shops and gun shows would spout all you crazy kooky stuff there. Nowadays, thanks to the 'Net you don't have to leave your house and can post the kooky BS from your Mom's basement.......uh, I mean your "Command Post".

Like I've posted before, I member of several other gun forums that Navy Seal, BC1, Blues and a couple of other members are NOT a members.

Why? Simple....... They are GUN FORUMS and only gun stuff can be posted and none of the loony right wing extremist tea begger kooky conspiracy theory BS is allowed. Since none of them even own guns they avoid those forums.

None of them are gun owners just bitter old men that post all the loony BS on the 'Net.

Paul
 
Howdy Blues,



Sure we do. You're just another right wing extremist tea begger nutjob that post all your loony conspiracy theory from your Mom's basement.......uh, I mean your "Command Post". Back in the "Day" a few of you that your Moms would actually let you go places in public, like gun shops and gun shows would spout all you crazy kooky stuff there. Nowadays, thanks to the 'Net you don't have to leave your house and can post the kooky BS from your Mom's basement.......uh, I mean your "Command Post".

Paul

It's astonishing you were able to get your d i c k into somebody's pants being this lame...
 
I was just trying to sound like "stunned-gun", but I forgot to mention the command post or mom's basement...

Well, I really want to thank you for drawing him out!
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This immigration fiasco is exactly what the narcissist garbage in the whitehouse wants. The more fiascos he can have the better it is for the only group of people who really really really care about the world and its population, the poor, social justice and all the other upchuck vomit they can come up with--progressive, liberal democrats and the lemmings that follow them. He takes every occasion to blame the repubs for even questioning literally any of these progressive fiascos--keeps the heat off of his incompetence and dictatorial desires as a stupid electorate wallow in his fantasies.
 

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