Open carry confrontation at a Rest Stop

[Icemanii]

Extremely rare when I don't cover up, Friday was an exception. I was wearing my OWB with the .45 when I stopped at a rest area up by Shepard. Since the place was pretty much empty and I was only going to be a moment, decided to forgo putting my coat back on.
Lady confronted me as I hit the front door, yelling at me about wearing a gun, and asking if I was a cop. Told me it was against the law to open carry on any state property, she knew that, because she worked there. Told her I didn't think she was fully aware of the laws (trying to be polite) and continued into the Men's room. She waited for me, and kept telling me that I needed to make sure I never carried on any state property again.
First time at all for me to have a bad experience carrying, mainly carry concealed due to work, but on a rare occasion open.

 

[wolf_fire]

It never amazes how someone unarmed has the juevos to confront an armed person and get in their face. Fortunately for them, you're one of the good guys.

Sorry you had a bad experience. Chalk it up to their ignorance.

If she really thought it was against the law, I wonder why she bothered to wait for you rather than call the cops. *shrugs*

 

[K7lvo]

Either she didn't think you were a BG, and was being an airhole, or she was totally brain dead...

 

[Golden Eagle]

Hopefully at some point she did call the police because dispatchers are getting better at informing people OC is legal.

The Sturgis paper this month had a letter to the editor from someone who was upset with the county sheriff. They called 911 when they saw an OC'er at the counter of a local restaurant. The Co. dispatch said that it was legal and no officers needed to respond.

The way it should to be :smile:

 

[Firefighterchen]

Hopefully at some point she did call the police because dispatchers are getting better at informing people OC is legal.

The Sturgis paper this month had a letter to the editor from someone who was upset with the county sheriff. They called 911 when they saw an OC'er at the counter of a local restaurant. The Co. dispatch said that it was legal and no officers needed to respond.

The way it should to be :smile:

No officers needed to respond...no way...I thought they had an obligation to respond like all the badge bunnies here keep telling me...

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[Elenor]

:angry: Georgia is (supposed to be) an open carry state. My husband and I were having dinner at Picadilly with some friends (several years ago now...), back when he wore openly. (Now, let me add that every single man at our table was probably carrying, albeit concealed, as was I, the only woman.) "Suddenly" (about halfway through dinner) three cop cars and five cops show up... They came up to us and asked to speak to Michael... then the one 'leading the charge' asked if he could 'hold' Michael's gun while they spoke. (I'm annoyed by that, but I understand it. Michael, being the calmest man on the planet, agreed and carefully handed it over.) This cop -- without, apparently, even LOOKING at the gun -- stuffed a(n unknown) cocked-and-locked ParaOrdnance P-10 into his belt, pointing at his own family jewels!

After a few minutes of speaking with Michael and looking at his CC license, they asked to him step outside -- since five cops surrounding a dinner meeting was attracting a lot of attention. I stayed inside as long as I could (about 5 minutes. I'm the opposite of the calmest person!) and then came out. Two of the cars and three of the cops had left. Michael and one cop were standing somewhat away from the building talking, and one cop was standing by the door. I asked him what had happened. It seem four different people had called 911 to report "a man with a gun!" at Picadilly... and the dispatcher, of course, didn't bother to ask, 'What's he doing?" (to which the reply would have to have been he's EATING HIS DINNER!!!) and so followed all the hysteria of cops racing up to a restaurant for no good reason...

I asked why they were there, since GA is an open carry state, and the cop said "not on public property." ?? "Picadilly is not public property, it's owned by someone." "No, if the public can go there, it's public property." (I managed to keep my mouth shut -- I did not want to get into it with a cop who clearly did not know public from privately owned!) Finally Michael and the cop headed out to our car, where "they" put the gun the trunk and Michael came back to finish his dinner. (He said later, the cop had said that it would avoid trouble if he'd just carry concealed from now on, and would he put the gun in the car? Michael pointed out that he couldn't put the gun in the car because HE didn't have the gun, the cop still did; so the cop said he'd walk with Michael to the car...

So, to avoid future trouble (with uneducated cops!), Michael switched to carrying concealed, despite it not being necessary. It still infuriates me, but alas, doesn't surprise me.

 

[Johnny Dollar]

You know there's a really easy way to avoid confrontations like this......

 

[NavyLCDR]

You know there's a really easy way to avoid confrontations like this......

You mean give up all of our freedoms one at a time to cater to the whiny minority that has an issue with our legal exercise of our rights guaranteed by the Constitution? You know, like the state employee, likely a janitor, who thinks they have enforcement powers of laws that don't even exist to make them feel better? Or maybe that police officer that expects us to pee ourselves on sight to show submission? Or that next door neighbor who finds our display of the US flag on our house to be disgusting?

It also would have been easier for the founding fathers to just avoid confrontation and submit to the crown too, right and then we wouldn't be having all these problems with guns in our country, would we? Just like it would be easiest to just submit to Czar Obama and let him destroy this country unhindered?

 

[Icemanii]

You know there's a really easy way to avoid confrontations like this......

Possibly, but I would rather just go ahead and use the facilities when I wish to and not try and hold it until I get home. At my age you never know.

 

[Rocketgeezer]

I know its a pain in the ass, and its not right but if you go in somewhere and the people there do not know you, right or no right conceal your gun, it may avoid your food getting cold, 7% of the population in my area carry a gun and 1 to 2 % of them OP so seeing someone with a gun on there belt is not a real big deal, but its really funny seeing people looking then trying to appear that they didn't

 

[Golden Eagle]

I know its a pain in the ass, and its not right but if you go in somewhere and the people there do not know you, right or no right conceal your gun, it may avoid your food getting cold, 7% of the population in my area carry a gun and 1 to 2 % of them OP so seeing someone with a gun on there belt is not a real big deal, but its really funny seeing people looking then trying to appear that they didn't

Please don't tell me what Freedoms I can have.

 

[unintentionalracist]

It never amazes how someone unarmed has the juevos to confront an armed person and get in their face. Fortunately for them, you're one of the good guys.

Sorry you had a bad experience. Chalk it up to their ignorance.

If she really thought it was against the law, I wonder why she bothered to wait for you rather than call the cops. *shrugs*

"fear" made her do it. Because she was "afraid."

 

[NavyLCDR]

Possibly, but I would rather just go ahead and use the facilities when I wish to and not try and hold it until I get home. At my age you never know.

"Ma'am, can you describe the man that had the gun?" "Well, he was wearing a diaper and...."

 

[Elenor]

seeing someone with a gun on there belt is not a real big deal, but its really funny seeing people looking then trying to appear that they didn't

Open Carry is legal! I'm fine with people looking and looking away and looking and looking away. It exercises their necks, and makes them think. (maybe.)(probably not.) We got followed by an idiot terrier (pretending to a man -- or at least, in a man's body: *disgusted* ) once in Home Depot. (Ha. NY accent too. Michael always complained he was living in Yankee-occupied Georgia!) The little weenie was huffing and flustering (mostly to himself) about "a gun! it's a gun! In Home Depot!" Not really loudly -- just; like a terrier he couldn't stop himself from yapping. My husband, of course, (wasn't thinking about it -- just) ignored him as if he were a yapping terrier, but after a while (he was actually following us around the tile section, "barking"!), I leaned toward him and said, 'yes, it's a gun. I'm sorry it upsets you so much." He recoiled and flurried off! (My husband never gave any sign he even knew the little weenie existed... No sense in rewarding bad behavior!)

My husband didn't wear his gun to make a point about himself, or to swagger, or to appear as other than he was. He wore his gun openly to make a philosophical statement because he believed our society has been turned upside down. Historically -- in a traditional society -- aristocrats carried weapons and peasants did not. This society (nearly the entire the western world, actually!) has been 'rearranged' so that what sort-of passes for an aristocracy (but really isn't at all) is not just disarmed, but anti-arms and the peasants and ruffians go armed.

Absolutely - use it or lose it.

 

[BC1]

Extremely rare when I don't cover up, Friday was an exception. I was wearing my OWB with the .45 when I stopped at a rest area up by Shepard. Since the place was pretty much empty and I was only going to be a moment, decided to forgo putting my coat back on.
Lady confronted me as I hit the front door, yelling at me about wearing a gun, and asking if I was a cop. Told me it was against the law to open carry on any state property, she knew that, because she worked there. Told her I didn't think she was fully aware of the laws (trying to be polite) and continued into the Men's room. She waited for me, and kept telling me that I needed to make sure I never carried on any state property again.
First time at all for me to have a bad experience carrying, mainly carry concealed due to work, but on a rare occasion open.

So much for her being scared of an openly carried gun.

 

[BC1]

Open Carry is legal! I'm fine with people looking and looking away and looking and looking away. It exercises their necks, and makes them think. (maybe.)(probably not.) We got followed by an idiot terrier (pretending to a man -- or at least, in a man's body: *disgusted* ) once in Home Depot. (Ha. NY accent too. Michael always complained he was living in Yankee-occupied Georgia!) The little weenie was huffing and flustering (mostly to himself) about "a gun! it's a gun! In Home Depot!" Not really loudly -- just; like a terrier he couldn't stop himself from yapping. My husband, of course, (wasn't thinking about it -- just) ignored him as if he were a yapping terrier, but after a while (he was actually following us around the tile section, "barking"!), I leaned toward him and said, 'yes, it's a gun. I'm sorry it upsets you so much." He recoiled and flurried off! (My husband never gave any sign he even knew the little weenie existed... No sense in rewarding bad behavior!)

My husband didn't wear his gun to make a point about himself, or to swagger, or to appear as other than he was. He wore his gun openly to make a philosophical statement because he believed our society has been turned upside down. Historically -- in a traditional society -- aristocrats carried weapons and peasants did not. This society (nearly the entire the western world, actually!) has been 'rearranged' so that what sort-of passes for an aristocracy (but really isn't at all) is not just disarmed, but anti-arms and the peasants and ruffians go armed.

Absolutely - use it or lose it.

I call BS. NY accent? Give me a break. You know those damn people in NY... they all talk the same, act the same and espouse the same views. That's why 1 out of every 8 people in NYS has a CCW permit. What?

 

[apvbguy]

That's why 1 out of every 8 people in NYS has a CCW permit.

could you back this up with reliable data?

 

[Bikenut]

I know its a pain in the ass, and its not right but if you go in somewhere and the people there do not know you, right or no right conceal your gun, it may avoid your food getting cold, 7% of the population in my area carry a gun and 1 to 2 % of them OP so seeing someone with a gun on there belt is not a real big deal, but its really funny seeing people looking then trying to appear that they didn't

Conceal just so other people won't be "upset" or "offended" because they don't know me? I think NOT! I flat refuse to allow other people's opinions and/or fears to run my life! Besides... those other people don't give two farts in the wind if their wearing pajama bottoms in public/have tons of metal in their face/their stinking overpowering perfume...and/or their anti gun opinions... offend ME!

As far as I'm concerned if I am in a place that it is legal for me to be and I'm legally openly carrying a gun.... it isn't up to me to leave or cover up my gun because someone else doesn't like it. It is up to the one who doesn't like it to leave or get over it because they are just not important enough to rule over me.

Consider this... we don't need gun control laws if we allow other people's opinions and fears to control our ability to exercise a right. I will never understand why folks are so afraid that other people might not "like" them... or they won't "fit in".

 

[BC1]

could you back this up with reliable data?

If in doubt just check the statistics provided by the state. They're relatively easy to find. Example... Orange county, population 370,000; CCW permits - 39,000.

 

[Johnny Dollar]

If in doubt just check the statistics provided by the state. They're relatively easy to find. Example... Orange county, population 370,000; CCW permits - 39,000.

Where is Orange county?