Cocked _and_Locked
Banned
The new talkative more educated troll sounds familiar, probably a recent banning... :no:
I don't believe our rights are out of control. You miss the point. Those who exercise the rights are out of control.
That emboldened text does not make any sense at all. The rights that the framer's of the Constitution implemented have nothing to do with religion, hence the separation of CHURCH AND STATE. No one believes that the Bill of Rights is God given, unless you have been brain-washed by evangelism; which the majority of you seem to be.
Do you even own a firearm?
I have not posted for a few weeks. I agree you can use the IGNORE feature. When I use it here or at other sites I always tell the person they are on my ignore list. This gives them the opportunity to ignore me and not waste time answering my posts. Sometimes this makes the person being ignored angry but then so be it.:girl_wink:
The new talkative more educated troll sounds familiar, probably a recent banning... :no:
So, you find lots of people to ignore over at the ranch Kathleen?When I use it here or at other sites I always tell the person they are on my ignore list.
I don't believe our rights are out of control. You miss the point. Those who exercise the rights are out of control.
That emboldened text does not make any sense at all. The rights that the framer's of the Constitution implemented have nothing to do with religion, hence the separation of CHURCH AND STATE. No one believes that the Bill of Rights is God given, unless you have been brain-washed by evangelism; which the majority of you seem to be.
birds of a feather troll together, just name one and they all show up:to_pick_ones_nose:
I don't believe our rights are out of control. You miss the point. Those who exercise the rights are out of control.
That emboldened text does not make any sense at all. The rights that the framer's of the Constitution implemented have nothing to do with religion, hence the separation of CHURCH AND STATE. No one believes that the Bill of Rights is God given, unless you have been brain-washed by evangelism; which the majority of you seem to be.
How exactly are people out of control when they exercise their rights?
The founders believed our rights came from our creator, they even said as much in our declaration of independence. True, god did not deliver the bill of rights from a mountain. But our rights came from our creator and governments were instituted to secure and protect these rights. The bill of rights does not give us any rights at all, it just protects those given to us either by nature or god, depending on your belief.
CCW permit holders kill innocent people at least once a month. That is out of control. The lack of legislation preventing anyone from buying a gun is pathetic. I'm all for owning guns, but the fact that an individual can go buy a gun in the state of VA (my state) with a simple check is ludicrous. All responsible gun owners are responsible until they decide not to be. Nothing is stopping a pot dealer with no criminal records from buying a firearm to protect his sales. Any idiot can go to the store and buy a gun, take it home, load it, and accidentally blow his head off. That is utter lunacy. All you people complain about crime and violence but yet you won't support legislation to tighten the loose gun laws in place. Its not that I want guns gone, I want SOME sort of legislation that is reasonable. The problem with you right winger evangelical types is that you are not reasonable. You interpret the bible literally, believe it is your God given right to carry guns, and denounce everything that isn't branded wholesome and devil-free by your "pastors". And believe me, you individuals are the minority in America, and everyone knows it. Carrying guns around in a showboat fashion is not only insensitive but assholery. People die horrible deaths from gun violence and you sit back and push for guns on campuses. How insensitive are you to push guns on those people who have had loved ones taken away by what you advocate? You think they want to hear your bullshit about how God wants you to take lives away? Hell no. All of you people will never have to use your guns and think you are doing something positive. Everyone here has their opinion and gung-ho attitudes about killing robbers and people in the street, yet not one of you has had to make that decision. All you do is speak of what you do not know, which is taking a human life.
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CCW permit holders kill innocent people at least once a month. That is out of control. The lack of legislation preventing anyone from buying a gun is pathetic. I'm all for owning guns, but the fact that an individual can go buy a gun in the state of VA (my state) with a simple check is ludicrous. All responsible gun owners are responsible until they decide not to be. Nothing is stopping a pot dealer with no criminal records from buying a firearm to protect his sales. Any idiot can go to the store and buy a gun, take it home, load it, and accidentally blow his head off. That is utter lunacy. All you people complain about crime and violence but yet you won't support legislation to tighten the loose gun laws in place. Its not that I want guns gone, I want SOME sort of legislation that is reasonable. The problem with you right winger evangelical types is that you are not reasonable. You interpret the bible literally, believe it is your God given right to carry guns, and denounce everything that isn't branded wholesome and devil-free by your "pastors". And believe me, you individuals are the minority in America, and everyone knows it. Carrying guns around in a showboat fashion is not only insensitive but assholery. People die horrible deaths from gun violence and you sit back and push for guns on campuses. How insensitive are you to push guns on those people who have had loved ones taken away by what you advocate? You think they want to hear your bullshit about how God wants you to take lives away? Hell no. All of you people will never have to use your guns and think you are doing something positive. Everyone here has their opinion and gung-ho attitudes about killing robbers and people in the street, yet not one of you has had to make that decision. All you do is speak of what you do not know, which is taking a human life.
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You speak of preventing the crime before it happens. That is the lunacy...:sarcastic:
Let's go and arrest and incarcerate the murderers before they kill? Huh? What him Say?
I have used the Magic 8 Ball in the past and it lead me astray... Try again...
Until you can come up with a foolproof solution to random violence, errant wrong doing, and perhaps fix the issue with unprovoked assault, I'll carry my gun when and where I choose. I have that right.:biggrin:
Peace...
Originally Posted by Conservative Liberal
CCW permit holders kill innocent people at least once a month.
The right to life & liberty are natural human rights. They descend to us from God (or nature if you prefer) alone and they exist wholly & totally separate from any Government or Law or Court or Document. This was proven in the Warsaw Ghetto and at Sobibor and at Treblinka. Incumbent to these rights is the right to defend them by any means necessary or available, regardless of what any government says or how any court interprets.
Since this happens so frequently I'm sure you have several links to back your claim up
THE REASON GOD WAS INCLUDED IN THESE DOCUMENTS/CURRENCY WAS TO IRRITATE THE INTOLERANT NATURE OF BRITISH RULE. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CARRYING GUNS ALL OVER THE PLACE. GOD WAS INDICATED IN THESE DOCUMENTS TO REMIND US OF OUR RELIGIOUS FREEDOMS, NOT TO SERVE AS A ARGUMENT POINT FOR THOSE WHO BELIEVE GOD GAVE THEM THE RIGHTS TO OWN GUNS. GOD GAVE YOU THE RIGHT TO RELIGIOUS FREEDOM. WHEN YOU MUDDLE THESE TWO IDEALS YOU GET A TWISTED VIEWPOINT THAT SERVES TO WEAKLY REINFORCE THE REASON TO CARRY A GUN. FIGURING, HEY, IF WE TWIST THE WORDS OF DEAD MEN OVER 250 YEARS AGO MAYBE WE HAVE A LEGITIMATE ARGUMENT. BULLSHIT.
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Too bad the moderate/centrist stance doesn't fit the "reasonable" mold.
Things to Remember if you're not a Leftist/Socialist/Marxist/Whiney Libtard:
"Shall not infringe" has an absolute, literal meaning. (long as it suits your ideology)
Creators/Gods and "founders" have/had the crystal ball technology necessary to promulgate contemporary needs.
...That's why the Constitution was designed for change. How many amendments, now?
Change can be good or bad. Resistance to change only for resitance' sake is bad, because "that's the way we've always done it."