I can tell you as a PA LTCF holder that regularly vacations in MD the family and I will be travelling a little farther south to VA beach where my UT CC license will be recognized.
Maybe if enough tourism dollars are lost MD will wake up.
Yes... By all means protect yourself. But when in Gods name are you going to need to do it when you're out of your home? Maryland recognizes self protection just like anywhere else. But if the perp is unarmed, then why would you want to shoot them? Personally I am more than happy to call the police and let my tax dollars come out and take care of the problem for me.I'm originally from Maryland but have been living in NC for the last 11 years. It shocks the mess out of me that I can possess a concealed carry in NC and can not travel back to MD to visit family with my hand gun. My permit will be recognized in VA but not MD. I can't go up to visit my dad and spend time with him at the shooting range unless I pay to apply for a permit up there and prove that I can walk on water, give them my first born, cut off my right ear... you get the point and even then they will turn me down b/c someone had a bad day, I'm too short, one ear is lower than the other..... Even if I go to WV to visit family there I will have to go around my butt to get to my elbow just to avoid MD when traveling with my handgun. Thank God I was smart enough to move as soon as I could and never went back! Oh how much I could type/fuss about what would happen if I was robbed up there and I had my gun...bet I would be arrested for being the victim and trying to protect myself! People in MD talk about rednecks, hicks, and backwoods mentality...Hell I would choose our way of thinking any day of the week over the MD bull...at least I am safe & protected. As a girl, I am proud of my backwoods way of thinking and thankful my dad taught me to protect myself!!!!
I'll be honest, I an not a firearms expert but I am a Maryland resident and it truly infuriates me that my state ignores our right guaranteed by the Bill of Rights. What part of "shall not be infringed" do they not understand?
I've actually been thinking of applying for a non-resident permit somewhere, mostly out of protest of Maryland's policy. Can anyone recommend a state for this?
Thanks,
Will
:no: Nope, please re-read the constitution, it's not called the bill of privileges, it's called the bill of rights.
Actually you have basically told me that you do not.
Yeah, I can, it's called Vermont, Alaska, and Arizona
Yeah I see Shiite terrorists blowing things up in the deserts of Vermont and Alaska all the time. :sarcastic: Did you get that story from the Onion?
Good luck with that in DC, that wonderfully crime free city. :angry:
So are we going to make all the criminals wear armbands with inverted green triangles like they did in Nazi-Germany? How am I supposed to know in advance if I am going to get mugged for getting lost in the wrong neighborhood. I guess we should all just stay at home barefoot and pregnant.
The government has no responsability to protect my life, there have already been supreme court cases where they have absolved themselves of that.
Wrong, re-read the first amendment. One of the guarenties within the first amendment is the right to petition the government for redress of greivances.
"Shall not be infringed" doesn't mean that every Tom, Dick and Harry out there can carry their guns around town. What need do you have to do that anyways? If you are going somewhere that you HAVE TO carry a gun, I suggest you don't go there anymore. The State of Maryland recognizes your right to bear arms, and it has no problem with you owning a gun and keeping it in your home. MD just doesn't want you going out in town with it. And I don't blame them. Currently (as of Nov. 29, 2010) Baltimore is the 3rd most dangerous city in the Nation. The last thing that the State needs are more idiots waving a gun around screaming about Constitutional Rights and Infrigment. If you're hunting, fine. If you're target shooting, fine. If you don't trust the law enforcement that are TRAINED to handle all different situations, than I suggest you apply, attend the academy, graduate, swear in, and wear the uniform yourself. Than you HAVE TO carry a gun everywhere. Happy?
We do not want our permits so that we can walk around town "waving a gun and screaming like idiots". We want a permit for protection. I wish I didnt have to worry about my families protection but unfourtonetly I do. And for not going somewhere that requires a gun for protection isnt that simple. My mother, grandmother and grandfather have cancer and have to go to Baltimore and D.C. for medical reasons that they NEED to live. They have to walk threw parking decks and down streets that are filled with the people that made Baltimore the 3rd most dangerous city. They have no other defense againts criminals besides a weapon. So for my mother to carry and gun for PROTECTION she needs a permit. Wheres the police officer to walk with my family and all the other people the can be a target? The people that make Baltimore the third most dangerous city are people that carry guns illegally and would not care about getting a permit anyways. The people that would have permits would be ones that want to be legal, registered and have it for PROTECTION. For your law enforcement.....well I would take a hunter over a officer anyday. I have recently been dealing with Baltimore police. My family had a dirtbike stolen from them at a school and rode it away down city streets 4 blocks from a police barricks. They really intimidate criminals dont they? When the police wre called, they showed up 1 hour later and never filed a report until my mother went to the barricks and made them write a report. The police never took action. we caught the guy a ourselve a few weeks ago and he is now in jail. So why should I join the academy when I can do more as a unarmed citizen then a armed Law officer? Dont get me wrong, officers do alot and put their lives on the line but I trust myself alot more.
And carrying firearms can potentially help me save my life in a bad situation, which in turn allows me to exercise my liberty, which makes me happy. :biggrin: Pretty simple equation.
No, you swore an oath to defend it from all enemies foreign and domestic and to bear true faith to same. There is a huge differance between saying an oath after they hand you a cute uniform and actually meaning it and doing it.
Since your historical perspective is somewhat challenged, bearing arms means carrying them with you. I.E. to protect life, liberty, and property.
Again you have contradicted yourself. A gun in a safe is not ready for use when the need arises. A holstered gun at my side is. That's what it means to bear arms.
You don't get out much do you? Ever meet a woman who had a stalker, Ex-husband or otherwise? It's a very scary and dangerous situation. And no restraining order from a judge is going to stop a stalker, never has and never will. Even if the woman carries a cell phone (and is always in the coverage footprint of her carrier, which is a HUGE what-if), what is an average 911 responce time? Eleven minutes? For comparisons sake, 11 minutes is two rounds of MMA fighting (UFC, Ultimate Fighting). And on the street you don't get the benefit of having Herb Dean there to stop the fight nor do your get that one minute rest period either. :wacko: That means if you're getting choked unconsious, there is no stopping the assailant from cracking your skull or breaking some bones while your lights are out.
No said:Also, I did not take that oath to get the "pretty uniform". Don't assume to know me and the reasons behind my reasons for enlisting. I would venture to say that I have done and still do more for this country (that you so openly complain about so passionately) than you have or ever will. I may be wrong, but that is just my guess.
I would protect any of my friends if they needed it. And if anyone says they wouldn't are not real friends (in my opinion).
Please Mr. Murderer/Rapist, could you wait until the police get here? It will only be 20 minutes or so, they're short handed because it's shift change. When would you need it outside your home? Google Meredith Emerson, she could have used it! Unfortunately, she chose not to carry when she could have. Went hiking with her dog and was attacked. Had a blue belt in some martial art. Disarmed her attacker twice, "She almost beat me!", he said during his confession. He drove her around for 3 days, raped her, tried to get money from her ATM, then teid her to a tree, caved her skull in and cut her head off. He waved to a cop driving by right before he killed her. Despite a BOLO! The gas station operator who actually read the BOLO called the PD and said "That guy your looking for in reference to the missing girl is across the street cleaning out his van." Like the DC Snipers, he was caught because of a civilian tip. Guns are like seatbelts, they're both safety devices. You put them on hoping you'll never need them, but if you do, it's too late to put them on. Funny, Maryland requires us to wear seatbelts in case we get in an accident, why not guns in case we're attacked. I avoid Baltimore, where the police just shot 2 of their own, killing one and shot 5 unarmed civilians, killing 1 (Does that get counted in the city's homicide statistics?). When seconds count the police are only minutes away. Then there are the 2 women recently killed by wild animals while hiking/jogging not to mention others attacked but survived usually due to someone with a gun coming to their rescue. And why, if you're in Virginia, does it matter to you what Maryland does? The police do their job but they can't be everywhere, they are barraged with BOLOs and dealing with a large fighting mob is a recipe for disaster especially in a city like Baltimore(Bodymore, Murderland according to the show "The Wire").Yes... By all means protect yourself. But when in Gods name are you going to need to do it when you're out of your home? Maryland recognizes self protection just like anywhere else. But if the perp is unarmed, then why would you want to shoot them? Personally I am more than happy to call the police and let my tax dollars come out and take care of the problem for me.
You can bring your gun to Maryland, just stop in Virginia, lock your unloaded gun in the trunk with the ammo locked in your glove compartment, and drive straight to your father's house without stopping anywhere. Then you can do the same thing when you want to go to the range. Straight there and straight back. Maryland issues Carry Permits to over 90% of applicants. The part left out is that many people would apply but won't becausee it's a waste of time and money. And the permit is restricted to the times that you're actually doing what you stated you needed it for in your application. i.e.: If you're security, only at work/on duty. If your a businessman, only when carrying large sums of cash (We wouldn't want that poor money getting assaulted, it's valuable to the state, people aren't).I'm originally from Maryland but have been living in NC for the last 11 years. It shocks the mess out of me that I can possess a concealed carry in NC and can not travel back to MD to visit family with my hand gun. My permit will be recognized in VA but not MD. I can't go up to visit my dad and spend time with him at the shooting range unless I pay to apply for a permit up there and prove that I can walk on water, give them my first born, cut off my right ear... you get the point and even then they will turn me down b/c someone had a bad day, I'm too short, one ear is lower than the other..... Even if I go to WV to visit family there I will have to go around my butt to get to my elbow just to avoid MD when traveling with my handgun. Thank God I was smart enough to move as soon as I could and never went back! Oh how much I could type/fuss about what would happen if I was robbed up there and I had my gun...bet I would be arrested for being the victim and trying to protect myself! People in MD talk about rednecks, hicks, and backwoods mentality...Hell I would choose our way of thinking any day of the week over the MD bull...at least I am safe & protected. As a girl, I am proud of my backwoods way of thinking and thankful my dad taught me to protect myself!!!!
Just like driving, carrying a firearm is a privilege, not a right. I understand what the Constitution says but could you imagine if every idiot out there could legally carry a gun everywhere they wanted to? It would be like Iraq in no time! Obtaining a license to carry is something everyone should try to do and if you don't get one, then leave the gun at home! And if you truly need to carry a gun where you're going then you may not want to go there. Telling the government that you should be able to carry is like telling them that you don't trust the men and women in uniform who are there to protect you, and I trust them with my life. Just like anything else you don't like about the policies put in place, "Love it or leave it". I love Maryland, and I will continue to obey the laws and not complain about them. They're there for our protection.