Whats your opinion on the florida shooting?

[SGB]

I think the SA refusing to send it to the GJ is pretty obvious...she was convinced it would not return an indictment. So she overcharges on an Information filing with the Court and punts it to the Judiciary. Her grandiose speech as to how she doesn't bow to outside pressure was pure political BS. I could be wrong, we'll just have to see.

 

[S&W645]

I think the SA refusing to send it to the GJ is pretty obvious...she was convinced it would not return an indictment. So she overcharges on an Information filing with the Court and punts it to the Judiciary. Her grandiose speech as to how she doesn't bow to outside pressure was pure political BS. I could be wrong, we'll just have to see.

The smug look on her face made my stomach churn. Looked like it was too scripted.

 

[SGB]

The smug look on her face made my stomach churn. Looked like it was too scripted.

The Florida Attorney General was on Megan Kelly's show backing the decision to Charge 2nd degree murder. My question is why did the AG feel it necessary to make an appearance on FNN?

I think the stink of politics is all over this. Again, I could be wrong.

 

[BluesStringer]

I think the stink of politics is all over this. Again, I could be wrong.

I agree wholeheartedly.....except for one thing. On this one point, you decidedly cannot be wrong.

Blues

 

[HOTCHKIS]

I think he screwed himself when he didn't listen to the 911 operator!

 

[MilShooter]

I think he screwed himself when he didn't listen to the 911 operator!

Just how is it that you know he "did not listen to the 911 operator"?

In the evidence I've seen, he "gave up the chase" when instructed, and was returning to his SUV while trying to find a street sign to help the dispatcher send the police to the correct place. If you know something that contradicts my understanding, please cite the reference.

 

[BluesStringer]

I think he screwed himself when he didn't listen to the 911 operator!

Ooooyyy veeeeyyyy. Link Removed

 

[nogods]

In the evidence I've seen, he "gave up the chase" when instructed, and was returning to his SUV while trying to find a street sign to help the dispatcher send the police to the correct place. If you know something that contradicts my understanding, please cite the reference.

try this map of the crime scene - looking for a street sign in the backyards of townhouses? Have you ever received email from a Nigerian lawyer with 2 billion dollars he needs to transfer?

 

[SGB]

try this map of the crime scene - looking for a street sign in the backyards of townhouses? Have you ever received email from a Nigerian lawyer with 2 billion dollars he needs to transfer?

Of course you won't be offended if some of us disagree with your assessment.

 

[Black Dragon]

try this map of the crime scene - looking for a street sign in the backyards of townhouses? Have you ever received email from a Nigerian lawyer with 2 billion dollars he needs to transfer?

Funny that you post that picture of a representation of what MIGHT have happened but you don't post the other picture of what MIGHT have happened. Both are located on the same page.

Both pictures can be found here http://bcclist.com/

 

[nogods]

Uh...either way Zimmerman is the predator and Martin the prey. Thanks for pointing that out for us.

 

[nogods]

Of course you won't be offended if some of us disagree with your assessment.

Of course not - as I recall, the topic heading asked for our opinions.

 

[MilShooter]

try this map of the crime scene - looking for a street sign in the backyards of townhouses? Have you ever received email from a Nigerian lawyer with 2 billion dollars he needs to transfer?

It is said that a small mind resorts to personal insults. I shall not drop to your level.

 

[nogods]

It is said that a small mind resorts to personal insults. I shall not drop to your level.

Perhaps you didn't read what you wrote...or you didn't understand the irony. Small minds indeed.

 

[BluesStringer]

Funny that you post that picture of a representation of what MIGHT have happened but you don't post the other picture of what MIGHT have happened. Both are located on the same page.

Both pictures can be found here Bcc:List.com

Good grief. You mean the NY lawyer who spent his 30-year career constrained by strict rules of evidence resorted to using a Google Maps satellite photo with a bunch of lines and arrows drawn on it by a freakin' blogger that has zip, zero, nada to do with the case as substantiation for a premise he himself accepted from the likes of Al "Tawana Brawley" Sharpton, Jesse "Hymietown" Jackson, a platoon of loud-mouthed, pussillanimous poltroons calling themselves the "New Black Panther Party" and then that whacky gem of a Congress-critter, Rep. Frederica Wilson????

Un-freakin'-believable.

Blues

 

[SGB]

The States probable cause affidavit reads like it was drafted by the NBC producer that got fired for doctoring the tape.


Harvard Prof. Alan Dershowitz: Zimmerman Arrest Affidavit ‘Irresponsible And Unethical’

 

[MilShooter]

The States probable cause affidavit reads like it was drafted by the NBC producer that got fired for doctoring the tape.


Harvard Prof. Alan Dershowitz: Zimmerman Arrest Affidavit ‘Irresponsible And Unethical’

Enlightening, to say the least. Thanks for posting the link. I read the Affidavit, but not being a lawyer, I had no idea what should or should not have been contained therein. But when I watched the press conference, all I saw, through my jaundiced eye was another politically-motivated prosecutor with an eye toward the future for a higher (elected) office. While she is not good at it, she really used theatrical flourish (and scads of makeup) to make the announcement. I really expected something more. I don't know what I expected, but for a charge of 2nd Degree Murder, I thought there should be something in the Arrest Affidavit that was a more complete description of the event.

But I can also affirm that I was not surprised by the (in my opinion) politically-motivated prosecution. In order to maintain any semblance of order in the Sanford area, I guess that some charge had to be made against Zimmerman. I saw one news report yesterday (on a local, Philadelphia news broadcast) that "Zimmerman's location was unknown, therefore a manhunt was necessary to locate him..." I thought he turned himself in to authorities.

Sometimes, I like Dershowitz and sometimes he grates on me. But I always respect his opinion. Among those with the credentials to make a comment on the Affidavit, Alan Dershowitz is on the short list. Yet I still object to the seeming self-aggrandizement of all of the "pundits" in this case.

 

[roguejesse]

Ohh and one more thing, I am referring to you: (" I don't see how you can be an instructor with all those certifications, without understanding the concept; of an unfamiliar person in an area, being asked what they are doing there, as a safety and security question. But your response and action is to be belligerent because the person doesn't display a hallowed symbol of authority (a badge).') the way you respond when challenged" (" I can't even remember how many times I've ignored or told someone to ---- off!").

Needlessly escalating a situation to what purpose?

And then you did exactly what you accused me of. You want some authority to question my suitability to own a firearm becuase you disagree with my position of neutrality? Must I bow to your position? Are the CCW police coming to take my license away? Oh no!

What is a "NY" cop mentality? What type of NY cop? NY City? Some hick town up North? Specify where this comes from? Some study been done to show cops from NY all think alike. Does it stop at the state line or do you include Vermont and PA cops? Do I support all cops? Do you know me? Do you know what I teach?

How much self-defense training have you had? Where? Top training academy's? Ever been involved in a shooting? Anyone in the family been murdered? Are you talking from experience or just puffing that bird chest up and running your fingers? Owning a firearm qualifies you in no way to be an expert on self defense much the same as playing computer games doesn't qualify you as a software engineer. Also what rights to safety and security are your referring to under FL or federal statutes? You have a lot of questions to answer so get crackin'.

My job is to teach a skill-set, not a mind-set. I can provide the defensive skills but despite all my education I can't stop the ignorant from applying them poorly. But I CAN educate them on the aftermath of a real shooting. Something the shooter is learning the hard way.

Read my later post. I reserved judgement on this until the facts are known... something you might care to do. You have absolutely no idea what the facts of this case are.

Now go hump some one else's leg.

 

[Fyrewerx]

@ MilShooter... I don't know where that Philadelphia newsgroup got that info about having to have a manhunt. Everything described by the PA indicated that FDLE (Florida Dept. of Law Enforcement) knew where he was at all times, and that he was very cooperative. They were in enough contact to tell him exactly where the FDLE was (Jacksonville) so he could come directly there. Media types.... sheeesh!