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ezkl2230
Guest
Making sense has never been a pre-requisite for a suggested law.
Making sense has never been a pre-requisite for a suggested law.
tuts40
New member
It was proven in the courtroom that Martin came back after the initial interaction and attacked Zimmerman. ...Read that again, one million apparently miss-educated black and white men. Why isn't that now discussed by the original poster with such fervor as their original ignorant proposal?
Nightmare45
NRA LIFE MEMBER
Never give advantage to bad guy, no requirement to announce anything, bang.
SR40c
Done told her once...
I'm "guessing" because the OP doesn't support the proposal.
r1derbike
New member
I'd like to see the 1 million educated black man signatures, please. If no 1 million signatures, educational achievements of those who support this tripe will do.
Why were the 1 million educated black women eschewed?
This effluent has to be borne of ignorance. A truly educated black man, or white man (or women, black or white) would never support such a ridiculous, racist, patently false undertaking.
If they did, I would argue they aren't educated at all, just racist.
Why were the 1 million educated black women eschewed?
This effluent has to be borne of ignorance. A truly educated black man, or white man (or women, black or white) would never support such a ridiculous, racist, patently false undertaking.
If they did, I would argue they aren't educated at all, just racist.
GlassWolf
New member
First part of the new legislation is already a law pretty much anywhere you can carry a firearm. If you initiate the confrontation, or even serve to escalate it in any manner, you're guilty. This is why it's called "Self-Defense." As for the second part, that's just being silly. That part falls under what I like to call: Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
If Trayvon Martin hadn't initiated physical conflict, and hadn't had Zimmerman pinned to the ground attacking him, Martin may not have had to resort to using his firearm to defend himself.
If Trayvon Martin hadn't initiated physical conflict, and hadn't had Zimmerman pinned to the ground attacking him, Martin may not have had to resort to using his firearm to defend himself.
Nightmare45
NRA LIFE MEMBER
Trayvon law, if you have the ability to walk away, do so, do not attack and expect not to die.
Bttbbob
New member
Nope not in Florida read:
Title XLVI
CRIMES Chapter 776
JUSTIFIABLE USE OF FORCE View Entire Chapter
776.041 Use of force by aggressor.—The justification described in the preceding sections of this chapter is not available to a person who:
(1) Is attempting to commit, committing, or escaping after the commission of, a forcible felony; or
(2) Initially provokes the use of force against himself or herself, unless:
(a) Such force is so great that the person reasonably believes that he or she is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm and that he or she has exhausted every reasonable means to escape such danger other than the use of force which is likely to cause death or great bodily harm to the assailant; or
(b) In good faith, the person withdraws from physical contact with the assailant and indicates clearly to the assailant that he or she desires to withdraw and terminate the use of force, but the assailant continues or resumes the use of force.History.—s. 13, ch. 74-383; s. 1190, ch. 97-102.
whodat2710
New member
You missed the boat on that one bob. Right citation, but wrong emphasis. Above highlights are the important part to win your argument.
Warrior1256
New member
At this point months later this has gone nowhere. They tried to kill the Stand Your Ground law and instead it was recommended to expand it. As this silly group would say "Ain't that a kick in the a$$?"
Well, they didn't lose any by Trayvon's demise - he had been kicked out of school.
Thats what I'm wondering, if you tell someone, that you are in a confrontation with, that you have a concealed weapon, its most likely going to escalate unless you brandish. your state may have laws about that also....
Nightmare45
NRA LIFE MEMBER
Trayvon rule you walk away you go home, you jump me, you go to morgue.
GlassWolf
New member
I'd say carry spare mags, but truth be told, most times, if a group of 10 guys sees 4 or 5 of their friends drop right next to them.. they usually turn tail and run. A lot of their bravado comes from the mob mentality of having a group with them. That diminishes quickly when they start getting killed.
apvbguy
New member
it is amazing how one guy can get things so wrong. 1, either carry a weapon with a larger capacity 2. if you are going to carry a weapon with low ammo capacity either carry extra mags or a BUG and 3, like has been mentioned most of the time the animals are emboldened by their numbers, if you are attacked and are able to hit a couple of them it is more than likely the balance of the mob will scatter.
gejoslin
Illegitimi non carborundu
Chip McCormick makes 10rd Power mags for 1911's. I have 3 mags like this. They work excellently!
r1derbike
New member
Have a large caliber, low round count, single-stack (XD-S .45acp) sidearm. 5 in mag plus one in pipe. I also have a very small 4 mag pouch. First mag in it is a 7-rounder, next three are 5-rounders.
28 total rounds. Chances are it will never get past the mag already in the sidearm. If it does, I'm in over my head. Takes a second to change mags. That's what we in the broadcasting world call, "dead air".
28 total rounds. Chances are it will never get past the mag already in the sidearm. If it does, I'm in over my head. Takes a second to change mags. That's what we in the broadcasting world call, "dead air".
