Tucker's Mom
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xcrunner88 is right about the airport food though...and especially the airline food. :smile:
Traveling to Commiefornia
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Deserteagle
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Yes I certainly will not be eating airport food so that is not a concern lol. It's not necessarily the 10 round capacity that Im worried about. I only have one 10 round magazine and I havent used it much so I do not know how reliable it is. Lets say I need my gun while camping in the middle of nowhere and that one magazine fails to feed my gun. Now I am out of luck.
With my 15 round mags, yes they are only 5 more rounds in one mag, but I have more mags. If bigfoot makes an appearance and my first mag breaks, I can pull out a backup mag.
xcrunner88
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LOL... You got me on that one! Bigfoot will probably require 10mm or .44. Pack a lunch and travel safe.
BIGJOHN621
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Well, you aren't paying attention then. Since the killer round 11 was banned, California is MUCH safer. They haven't even had a major riot in, what, like 20 years now?
The should secede or fall into the Pacific.
Deserteagle
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It would be nice if CA fell into the ocean but it wouldnt stop them from breeding and constantly spreading to other states and ruining them.
I have lived in CA my whole life, and while the politics and gun laws specifically are over the top ridiculous, I have yet to find a nicer place to live with better surroundings and weather. The gun laws are very complicated, yet not nearly as restrictive as people in other states seem to think, the complication tends to overwhelm the less educated gun folk into saying "just don't go there"!
First of all there is no constructive possession laws in CA, not a single mention, so your broken down magazines are just parts in the eyes of the law. The CA DoJ has backed up that fact that parts are parts, and until it is assembled, it is not a magazine.
Here is the actual PC regarding "Hi-cap" (regular cap) mags -
12020(a)(2)Commencing January 1, 2000, manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives, or lends, any large-capacity magazine.
Nowhere in there does it state possession, yes possession is not illegal. So even if you were to assemble your mags here or import them, lets say a LEO were to catch you, they cant do anything because possession is not illegal they would have to prove you performed one of the restricted actions in the PC. For example, there is nothing in the PC about "finding" a normal cap mag, so if you were to find one and use it, no law was broken. I do not believe anyone has been prosecuted for illegally obtaining a "hi-cap" mag in CA, although it has been an add on charge where other laws were broken. Anyone who is familiar with DA operations, know everything is thrown at the wall to see what sticks.
I am not advocating unprovable illegal or unethical activity, i am just trying to show you that there is no reason to worry, or have fear of CA gun laws, they are clearly stated, probably more clearly stated than the rest of the US (although far more insane also). There is no reason to worry that you are "risking a felony", that is just ignorant blabber.
My suggestion, run some rounds through your 10 round mag so you feel comfortable, use it in CA. Break down your 15 round evil mags, into what is commonly know as "rebuild kits" here in commiefornia, once you pass the state line - reassemble and enjoy your freedom.
FYI, i am not a Sheriff's office contributor, LEO, or cronie of a government official and i have been a legal CCW'er in CA for some time - Just thought i would shock some of you free staters!
First of all there is no constructive possession laws in CA, not a single mention, so your broken down magazines are just parts in the eyes of the law. The CA DoJ has backed up that fact that parts are parts, and until it is assembled, it is not a magazine.
Here is the actual PC regarding "Hi-cap" (regular cap) mags -
12020(a)(2)Commencing January 1, 2000, manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives, or lends, any large-capacity magazine.
Nowhere in there does it state possession, yes possession is not illegal. So even if you were to assemble your mags here or import them, lets say a LEO were to catch you, they cant do anything because possession is not illegal they would have to prove you performed one of the restricted actions in the PC. For example, there is nothing in the PC about "finding" a normal cap mag, so if you were to find one and use it, no law was broken. I do not believe anyone has been prosecuted for illegally obtaining a "hi-cap" mag in CA, although it has been an add on charge where other laws were broken. Anyone who is familiar with DA operations, know everything is thrown at the wall to see what sticks.
I am not advocating unprovable illegal or unethical activity, i am just trying to show you that there is no reason to worry, or have fear of CA gun laws, they are clearly stated, probably more clearly stated than the rest of the US (although far more insane also). There is no reason to worry that you are "risking a felony", that is just ignorant blabber.
My suggestion, run some rounds through your 10 round mag so you feel comfortable, use it in CA. Break down your 15 round evil mags, into what is commonly know as "rebuild kits" here in commiefornia, once you pass the state line - reassemble and enjoy your freedom.
FYI, i am not a Sheriff's office contributor, LEO, or cronie of a government official and i have been a legal CCW'er in CA for some time - Just thought i would shock some of you free staters!
Shoobee
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We are overdue for a good race riot here.
Maybe the Zimmerman trial in Florida will set one off? Who knows.
Shoobee
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LOL... You got me on that one! Bigfoot will probably require 10mm or .44. Pack a lunch and travel safe.
Bigfoot aka Sasquach is in Wash State not Calif.
The worst thing you would run into in the forests and mountains here are black bears or mountain lions.
You need to keep your regional boogiemen straight.
Shoobee
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If you cannot get the job done with 10 + 1 then a handgun is probably a waste of your time anyway.
Quiet
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Please do not encourage others to break the law.
DO NOT import any large capacity magazines into CA and if you import magazine parts into CA, DO NOT assemble them into large capacity magazines.
People have been arrested and convicted of importing large capacity magazines into CA.
Also, large capacity magazines that are illegally obtained are considered a "public nusiance" and subject to confiscation. [PC 32390]
The large capacity magazine restrictions went into effect on 01-01-2000.
If a CA LEO sees you with a large capacity magazine that did not exist before 01-01-2000, it gives them reasonable suspicion that the law was violated. With reasonable suspicion they can detain and question you about how you obtained that large capacity magazine. Depending on how you answer can give them probable cause for an arrest or confiscation of the large capacity magazine + issuance of a citation.
Penal Code 32310
Except as provided in Article 2 (commencing with Section 32400) of this chapter and in Chapter 1 (commencing with Section 17700) of Division 2 of Title 2, commencing January 1, 2000, any person in this state who manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives, or lends, any large-capacity magazine is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year or imprisonment pursuant to subdivision (h) of Section 1170.
Penal Code 32390
Except as provided in Article 2 (commencing with Section 32400) of this chapter and in Chapter 1 (commencing with Section 17700) of Division 2 of Title 2, any large-capacity magazine is a nuisance and is subject to Section 18010.
Penal Code 18010
(a) The Attorney General, district attorney, or city attorney may bring an action to enjoin the manufacture of, importation of, keeping for sale of, offering or exposing for sale, giving, lending, or possession of, any item that constitutes a nuisance under any of the following provisions:
(20) Section 32390, relating to a large-capacity magazine.
(b) These weapons shall be subject to confiscation and summary destruction whenever found within the state.
At no point did i encourage anyone to do what i outlined. I simply outlined how the law works, in order to be detained/arrested you would need PC, an assembled magazine in and of itself is not PC as there is no law against possessing although i would discourage possessing mags that you did not own prior to 2000 because you would have had to break one of the other laws to come into posession. Even if someone were to do that, the burden of proof is on the state, they would have to prove that you broke one of the other laws, and assumption is not proof. Just another example of the highly complicated gun laws here in CA.
With the rest of your post you are missing the point entirely, yes, all those are illegal with hi cap "magazines". A pile of assembled magazine parts is just that, "PARTS"! The DOJ has taken the stance, in writing, that parts are parts until they are assembled. Everything you cited is in relation to "magazines", and thank you for confirming exactly what i already said in my last post, none of that applies to "Parts", "rebuild kits", disassembled mags" or anything else you want to call them because they are not MAGAZINES. If you still don't understand that then you are reading into something that is not there, nowhere are parts regulated, nowhere!
To the OP, disassemble your hi-cap mags so they are parts, bring them into the state freely because there is no worry or grey area with that. Any additional information or clarification, I would suggest you take a look at calguns.net, the calguns foundation is very active over there. They are a legal foundation who fights for the expansion of gun rights in CA, and go to bat for people who have had their rights legitimately illegally infringed upon and they are VERY successful.
With the rest of your post you are missing the point entirely, yes, all those are illegal with hi cap "magazines". A pile of assembled magazine parts is just that, "PARTS"! The DOJ has taken the stance, in writing, that parts are parts until they are assembled. Everything you cited is in relation to "magazines", and thank you for confirming exactly what i already said in my last post, none of that applies to "Parts", "rebuild kits", disassembled mags" or anything else you want to call them because they are not MAGAZINES. If you still don't understand that then you are reading into something that is not there, nowhere are parts regulated, nowhere!
To the OP, disassemble your hi-cap mags so they are parts, bring them into the state freely because there is no worry or grey area with that. Any additional information or clarification, I would suggest you take a look at calguns.net, the calguns foundation is very active over there. They are a legal foundation who fights for the expansion of gun rights in CA, and go to bat for people who have had their rights legitimately illegally infringed upon and they are VERY successful.
