The XD has a grip safety, like the 1911 .45.
To carry hot or not?
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ChDangerfield
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Yes they both have this, but with a slight difference. The XD grip safety blocks the sear and the 1911 grip safety blocks the trigger.
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ChDangerfield
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Well, there you go. I could not remember when a hammer block came into being. I do have a friend that carries one from 1850-1890 area. He is so good it is scary.
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dgifted
I Love My Rugers
We had a recent case locally with 3 LE responding to a disturbance at an apartment. The BG was armed in a hallway with a knife. The LE backed up to give him space but he kept advancing. It was threatening and the BG closing fast, there was not time to pull a taser or pepper spray first. As the police spokesman stated, when there is a threat, LE always needs to be prepared to respond one level higher, not "match his knife". Bottom line is that one LE drew as the BG closed and fired 2 rounds, with the BG dead. One of the LE was wearing a camera so police have actual footage to verify all that happened.
-----The police spokesman said the BG was inside 13 feet and charging before the LE fired. He also stated that, if a BG is inside 21 feet and charging at you, the chances are greater he will reach you before you can get your gun out and fire. Now add the .5-.7 seconds to rack a slide to chamber a round and extra delay caused by pausing instead of pulling straight up on target from your holster, you are dead, even with just a knife. That is the real difference between carrying "hot", "one in the pipe", "one chambered" or "(7+1)".
-----I choose to give myself that extra second to keep myself alive and practice, practice, practice the process of drawing up on target, sweeping off safety on my Ruger as I bring it up on target and double tap. It has to become automatic as you don't have time to think. I thought the result of this real situation might help you understand why the consensus on this forum is to carry a round in the chamber. Good luck.
-----The police spokesman said the BG was inside 13 feet and charging before the LE fired. He also stated that, if a BG is inside 21 feet and charging at you, the chances are greater he will reach you before you can get your gun out and fire. Now add the .5-.7 seconds to rack a slide to chamber a round and extra delay caused by pausing instead of pulling straight up on target from your holster, you are dead, even with just a knife. That is the real difference between carrying "hot", "one in the pipe", "one chambered" or "(7+1)".
-----I choose to give myself that extra second to keep myself alive and practice, practice, practice the process of drawing up on target, sweeping off safety on my Ruger as I bring it up on target and double tap. It has to become automatic as you don't have time to think. I thought the result of this real situation might help you understand why the consensus on this forum is to carry a round in the chamber. Good luck.
wolf_fire
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I would rather have done that then what I had done. However, since I have trained with over 5000 rounds and even more dry fires not to flick a safety, it is definitely time for me to replace that Sig. Plus the Ruger is less expensive and I'll have a credit at the gun shop... woot woot!
wolf_fire
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i carry a glock 27. mexican carry. and no way in hell am i going to carry hot. a bullet to my balls might as well be a bullet to my heart.
'nom sayin?
I'm assuming "mexican carry" means no holster and tucked in your pants pointed straight at your p-enis? I was not aware of this ethnic slur as a type of carry method and I'm pretty sure I don't like it.
If this is correct, may I remind you of Safe Gun Handling Rule #2: Do not cross over or point your firearm at anything you do not wish to destroy. Combine this with rule #1, All guns are always loaded.
Now, think of where you are pointing that firearm. Hmmmmmm. Makes one think.
There are two safe places for every firearm, in a holster that covers the trigger, and in your safe. Your chosen method of carry is rather disconcerting because you would rather have your gun not be functioning in a SHTF situation rather than go out and spend a few dollars for a mid-range decent holster. Your firearm and ammo both cost more than a decent holster. Find one that you like and quit pointing your gun at your gun.
ChDangerfield
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I agree with you about the holster.
Mexican carry is not a racial slur though. Basicly it is a historical thing. When the Mexican government outlawed carrying firearms citizens started to carry with it down their pants hidden. They would, if they are going to encounter LEO, hide the pistol fast and go retrieve it later. Holsters caused an issue. It was hard to ditch them fast and the presence of the holster was all the LEO needed to bust you. So the Mexican citizens ditched the holster instead of getting busted/not carrying.
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CharlesMorrison
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Load your firearm, chamber a round and keep your booger hook off of the bang switch and its all good!
wolf_fire
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This is interesting and it may be quite true. My only problem is I searched for it on several search engines and all I got were blogs, forums, and Internet log-in answer sites, but no credible sources to verify this. Would you happen to know of any sites to verify this?
Let me give you an example using the term "redneck". I have heard many reasons as to the origin of this term. But through historical research, I have found that most of those reasons actually do have credibility. Therefore, it wasn't just one original source, but several. One of the more interesting ones was with a coal miner revolution at Blair Mountain in WV. The miners were well organized and all wore red bandannas and were referred to as rednecks. Link Removed See the 8th paragraph.
Therefore, I'd like to see what has been said about this term "mexican carry".
ChDangerfield
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Yeah I look and only find form posts. Even this one is a form post but says it is from american handgunner.
http://stumbleinn.net/forum/showthread.php?t=20632
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XD40scinNC
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OK, you have made the decision to carry for self-defense for what ever reason, as we all have.
I see the decision to basically carry an unloaded gun (empty chamber) as a sign of doubt, that you are ready to use deadly force to defend yourself.
A safe gun, there are many on the market. Drop safety, trigger safety, grip safety, thumb safety, etc. You don't need all, except drop safety is a must.
A safe carry method, holster designed for the gun that protects the trigger. A holster is part of the safety system for a carry gun.
A safe carry practice - put it in the holster, and leave it alone.
Safe handling practices - give your full attention to the gun when you handle it. Never idly try to holster (or unholster) a loaded firearm while also scanning your dresser for your wallet, keys or anything else you are taking with you.
There are some guns that should be carried unchambered. We see articles all the time where a gun fell out of a pocket and discharged. WTF were they doing carrying such a POS, and in a pocket. Don't carry such a gun, or any gun just in a pocket, tucked in a belt (Mexican carry).
I see the decision to basically carry an unloaded gun (empty chamber) as a sign of doubt, that you are ready to use deadly force to defend yourself.
A safe gun, there are many on the market. Drop safety, trigger safety, grip safety, thumb safety, etc. You don't need all, except drop safety is a must.
A safe carry method, holster designed for the gun that protects the trigger. A holster is part of the safety system for a carry gun.
A safe carry practice - put it in the holster, and leave it alone.
Safe handling practices - give your full attention to the gun when you handle it. Never idly try to holster (or unholster) a loaded firearm while also scanning your dresser for your wallet, keys or anything else you are taking with you.
There are some guns that should be carried unchambered. We see articles all the time where a gun fell out of a pocket and discharged. WTF were they doing carrying such a POS, and in a pocket. Don't carry such a gun, or any gun just in a pocket, tucked in a belt (Mexican carry).
RJT CCW
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The question you need to ask yourself if you want to carry cold, will you have time to make the gun ready to fire? Not just with two hands but also if you only have one or the other hand available. Only way to find out is to have someone time you (while using dummy ammo) in both methods and under different circumstances.
I my mind, the less I have to do in preparation to defend myself the greater the chance I have of surviving. YMMV
BluesStringer
Les Brers
Actually, I view this topic as an objective reality equation, rather than a subjective preference type of thing. As such, what you advise above is right in line with what the empirical data demonstrates is true, and anyone whose "mileage may vary" on your evaluation is bucking objective reality for no rational reason that I've heard anyone even attempt to articulate. I've seen some irrational excuses offered, but not rational reasons.
There really is only one right answer to the question of this thread. Even for beginners, the right answer is to carry your weapon in the one and only manner that allows you to bring it to bear in the fastest, easiest and most efficient way possible - with a round in the chamber. Anyone whose "mileage may vary" on that premise hasn't done their homework and is not serious about being prepared to defend their or others' lives with a firearm.
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Joeavalanche
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I carry hot and ready every day. My 2 favorite carry sidearms are ruger lcp380, and the big daddy, glock 30.
the dark
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i carry a glock 27. mexican carry. and no way in hell am i going to carry hot. a bullet to my balls might as well be a bullet to my heart.
'nom sayin?
As in "without a holster"? - that is Mexican carry... and it is foolish.
I carry AIWB - and I have no fear I will shoot my junk. Never knew the 27 would go of by itself.
the dark
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What are you going to do in a close defensive during situation when your of hand is fending off a blow to the face. What would you have done on your back with Trayvon Martin pounding you into the pavement? It is fantasy to think you will always have time to chamber a round.
But everyone should do what works for them -even if, to me, it sounds like training deficits.
Stephenthayer61
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your finger is your safety
Rule #1) all guns Are always loaded !
(2) never point the muzzle of your firearm at anything you are not prepared to destroy.
(3) never place your finger on the trigger unless there you have identified the threat !
(4) know what the target area and what is beyond..
That said, carry whichever way you are comfortable! Practice all phases of firearm safety, familiarity and tactical exercises.
FYI, Glocks are the weapon of choice for special agents of the FBI as studies have shown that even experienced operators forget to SWEEP the SAFETY under duress in a gun fight.. That in mind, would you be ready to rack a round and sweep a safety Anya man charging you w an edged weapon 20 Feet away ? I doubt it!
Rule #1) all guns Are always loaded !
(2) never point the muzzle of your firearm at anything you are not prepared to destroy.
(3) never place your finger on the trigger unless there you have identified the threat !
(4) know what the target area and what is beyond..
That said, carry whichever way you are comfortable! Practice all phases of firearm safety, familiarity and tactical exercises.
FYI, Glocks are the weapon of choice for special agents of the FBI as studies have shown that even experienced operators forget to SWEEP the SAFETY under duress in a gun fight.. That in mind, would you be ready to rack a round and sweep a safety Anya man charging you w an edged weapon 20 Feet away ? I doubt it!
