You're making this...
"They haven't changed completely, there was still people and politicians those people voted for, seeking our gun rights but while Biden's been in office and even under Trump's presidency, the Democrats have been pushing harder than they ever have to abolish our gun rights and every single time when there's another school shooting or just any another mass shooting to whatever degree, they push even harder."
...about open carry. I asked you to provide some citation that open carry is the cause for this. Your beliefs are not citation. Provide some objective evidence that open carry is in any way responsible for this or let's agree to disagree. You have no argument otherwise. I'm not interested in your speculation about open carry- I'll just put you on ignore because we aren't getting anywhere.
The difference is you speak in speculation, I speak from experience.
During the decade+ I was openly carrying daily, 99% of the response I observed was positive. The 1% that was negative was a woman who wanted to debate that only police should have guns, so nothing I did or said changed her mind either way.
Can you cite a single occurence of open carry being credited for any new gun ban law to back up the statement?
As to what people need or don't need, it doesn't Am.concern me.
Best reply everPlace me on ignore, I really don’t care what you do and no, I’m NOT making that primarily about open carry, nor am I saying it’s completely responsible for mass shootings; I’m just simply saying that open carry does not help.
But of course you’d resort to saying I have no argument, you just don’t get it and the mere fact that you’re placing me on your ignore list proves my point….lol.
In this day of age since pretty much any “citation” can be questioned, why do you keep asking for it when almost every non-open carrier feels the same way? Citing something that goes against your narrative is useless. Even a lot of the big-name gun-training professionals don’t even advocate open-carrying.
I’ve given you all the info you need but it just goes right on by unnoticed because you’re in favor of this open-carry nonsense.
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Based on what evidence?I’m just simply saying that open carry does not help.
Because it’s true. It’s not a matter of feeling anything. Talk to some of these goofy liberals. Read what they say. It doesn’t take a slide-rule and overhead projector to figure it out. Nobody wants to see your openly carried gun, even the pro-gun rights people because you’re not proving anything.Based on what evidence?
Because you feel it's true? Feeling are subjective; I asked for objective. Basing your discussion on feelings is irrational, and we leave irrational arguments behind with childhood.
The only one being irrational is you but it’s impossible because you’re so one-sided. You’re not gonna draw any quicker than a trained CC’er. Even though your openly carried gun might “scare” off a would-be attacker sometimes, there’s no guarantee it’ll work every time.If I were to attempt to have a rational discussion with someone choosing to be irrational, I'd be a fool to continue it. [emoji2369]
So it's true because it's true? That's an argument a child would make - how do you not see that?Because it’s true. It’s not a matter of feeling anything.
OK, maybe we can get somewhere IF you can direct me to where I can read something (or anything) where some goofy liberal was pro-gun but changed their mind after observing open carry.Talk to some of these goofy liberals. Read what they say.
It’s as true as 2 + 2 equaling 4, what do you want me to say?? And you’re totally off base if you think that’s the kind of argument a child would make.So it's true because it's true? That's an argument a child would make - how do you not see that?
OK, maybe we can get somewhere IF you can direct me to where I can read something (or anything) where some goofy liberal was pro-gun but changed their mind after observing open carry.
I literally just did. You’re just too blind to see it and you’d rather someone else find it for you and throw it right under your nose.Except you can't can you.
You feel a goofy liberal must have written that. but you can't actually cite anything.
Good at what, being ignorant?? Guess you’re right.You're not very good at this.
LOL, you’re somethin’ else, I tell ya.If one of us didn't believe 2+2=4 the other could cite this page (among many others) to prove it is true, that it is factual.
No, that is not what I’m saying at all. That’s what you would like to think that’s what I’m saying but you couldn’t be any further from the truth. I’m just saying it doesn’t help hold back the stiffer push for more gun laws from the anti-2nd crowd. That’s it for chrissakes.You are claiming open carry = restrictive gun laws. Now provide a citation it is true.
It’s not really directly related to gun laws but it certainly doesn’t help the fight against them. That was the sole purpose a long time ago, to piss off the Liberals and, they’ve succeeded.I believe the opposite, that open carry observation does not result in more gun laws based on two factors, my experience and the lack of any credible evidence it does.
Wow, just wow. Never thought I'd have to put someone on ignore in my own thread. I keep asking and you keep hedging. We're finished.
LOL, LOL, LOL. and?Wow, just wow. Never thought I'd have to put someone on ignore in my own thread. I keep asking and you keep hedging. We're finished.
Welcome to USA Carry.
Never noticed him.
Well, I lost mine in a training accident off the coast of Iowa during SEAL training,Maybe he lost his CCW Badge.
Any facts to back this up?You open carry…you find yourself in a bad situation…bad guy with a gun…who’s he going to shoot first…the person he sees with a gun… just something to think about
There are some who criticize open carry and claim it will make you more of a target or ‘the first one shot’ when a robber walks into the 7-11, despite the absolute lack of credible evidence that this has ever happened.
Any facts to back this up?
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