Signs of the End of the Age & The Last Generation

[CaptHerp]

Are you asking me?

PS- Just because you and the people you know are ignorant of history doesn't mean that everyone is.

And, celebrating a man on a day that he wasn't born because religious leaders have taught you to? Talk about a sheep...

Well, I guess we can talk about a sheep if you want. Or we can continue to be purposely obtuse. BTW, I hold a state educational certificate in history, so perhaps I'm not as "ignorant" as you choose to believe. As this time of the year approaches, the inevitable "Christmas is a pagan holiday" starts up, as if no one's ever heard it before. The MEANING of Christmas to Christians is NOT pagan. We celebrate the birth of Lord Jesus Christ -- God in human form. You want to celebrate it as Happy Flipflop Day or something, go for it. But it doesn't change the meaning of the day, even if we don't know the second, minute, hour or day of Christ's birth. Perhaps it was originally convenient to pick December 25, but that's the day. Deal with it.

Ringo, I know your beliefs are solid, but every denomination thinks theirs is the only way to interpret the Bible. You're not going to hell for celebrating Christmas or Easter. I'm a B and B -- believe and be baptized -- Christian. A saved through faith, not through works, Christian. Celebrating Christmas, etc., is not a bad thing. Christians' hearts are in the right place here. Non-Christians are simply being opportunistic. What else is new?

 

[CaptHerp]

Jesus never told His followers to celebrate Christmas, but He did warn us not to adhere to false, man-made religious doctrines: “And in vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men” (Mark 7:7). The truth is, Christmas and other non-biblical religious holidays constitute vain or empty worship of Christ. In Deuteronomy 12:28-32, God told His people to worship only in the ways He commanded, telling them “Whatever I command you, be careful to observe it; you shall not add to it nor take away from it.” He explicitly ordered them not to copy or adopt the religious practices of the pagans, calling such practices “abominations … which He hates.”

Yet hundreds of millions of men, women and children unwittingly observe Christmas, not knowing or caring from where it came. They assume that 2 billion Christians can’t be wrong or that it doesn’t matter how we worship God so long as our intentions are good. But why should we think we honor God or please Him when we worship contrary to His commands? Jesus Christ said to those who appeared religious but denied the power of His true teaching, “But why do you call Me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not do the things which I say?” (Luke 6:46; compare Matthew 7:21). Since Christ is opposed to Christmas, why would any thoughtful Christian observe it?

God explicitly ordered them not to copy or adopt the religious practices of the pagans, calling such practices “abominations … which He hates.” God also explicitly stated that the practice of homosexuality is an abomination...which He hates. Therefor, if anyone practicing or imitating the religious practices of the pagans as defined in Scripture as an abomination is to criticize the practice of homosexuality as an abomination, is a HYPOCRITE. Again, "to OBEY is better than SACRIFICE, and to heed than the fat of rams. For rebellion is as the sin of divination, and insubordination is as iniquity and idolatry" (1 Samuel 15:22). This isn't a SALVATION issue, it's a REWARDS issue. With knowledge comes responsibility, with more knowledge comes more responsibility. Choose wisely, and please don't kill the messenger.

Look elsewhere in the Bible for another take on this, Ringo. Judge yourself, not other Christians. That's between their hearts and God.

Romans 14: 5-7

5 One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind. 6 Whoever regards one day as special does so to the Lord. Whoever eats meat does so to the Lord, for they give thanks to God; and whoever abstains does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God.

 

[Gregmm6]

Well, I guess we can talk about a sheep if you want. Or we can continue to be purposely obtuse. BTW, I hold a state educational certificate in history, so perhaps I'm not as "ignorant" as you choose to believe. As this time of the year approaches, the inevitable "Christmas is a pagan holiday" starts up, as if no one's ever heard it before. The MEANING of Christmas to Christians is NOT pagan. We celebrate the birth of Lord Jesus Christ -- God in human form. You want to celebrate it as Happy Flipflop Day or something, go for it. But it doesn't change the meaning of the day, even if we don't know the second, minute, hour or day of Christ's birth. Perhaps it was originally convenient to pick December 25, but that's the day. Deal with it.

Ringo, I know your beliefs are solid, but every denomination thinks theirs is the only way to interpret the Bible. You're not going to hell for celebrating Christmas or Easter. I'm a B and B -- believe and be baptized -- Christian. A saved through faith, not through works, Christian. Celebrating Christmas, etc., is not a bad thing. Christians' hearts are in the right place here. Non-Christians are simply being opportunistic. What else is new?

Despite your certifications, you and the people you know still were ignorant of the history behind Cinco de Mayo.

I know the meaning of Christmas to christians is not pagan, but thanks for pointing out the obvious. Just as your celebration of Christmas isn't a pagan one, mine isn't a christian one.

What it comes down to is that my celebration is no more "opportunistic" than is yours.

 

[Nacelle]

Once again seems a bit hypocritical for you to complain that anybody other than Christians are celebrating your freaking holiday. Why do you even care? Suppose it's the same reason you have such a problem with gay people. You feel the need to get in everybody else's business and dictate to them what they should be doing.

 

[Ringo]

Look elsewhere in the Bible for another take on this, Ringo. Judge yourself, not other Christians. That's between their hearts and God.

There's only one truth, everything else is an excuse. It was a simple question..."Why should we think we honor God or please Him when we worship contrary to His commands?" Once again, "With knowledge comes responsibility, with more knowledge comes more responsibility. No judging..your choice. leasantry:

 

[Nacelle]

It's a hoot that we're worried about worshipping contrary to his commands when his commands were written down a hundred years after he said them. I can't remember what I ate for lunch yesterday.

 

[Oldgrunt]

This forum has gone on for a long time and has gotten absolutely nowhere. Apparently some have failed to notice how dissolute this country has become and, regardless of the opinions of all, we may be too far gone to change. I found the attached website tonight and it seems to explain, with amazing clarity, why we find ourselves to no longer be able to function as a society or, regretfully, as a nation. The article should make people stop and think about what has happened to us and ask the question, can we save ourselves? I wish I could say that I think we might but it will be impossible unless we turn back to God and plead with Him to send the Holy Spirit to us and bring a great revival and awakening. I know, as usual, there will be the same naysayers who will not believe but, if they can read this article and not identify where we stand, and why, it will be too late for them. Be that as it may, God help us all!


100 Facts About The Moral Collapse Of America That Are Almost Too Crazy To Believe | Alternative

 

[Ringo]

100 Facts About The Moral Collapse Of America That Are Almost Too Crazy To Believe | Alternative

And those are just the tip of the iceberg.

 

[mojoman]

This forum has gone on for a long time and has gotten absolutely nowhere. Apparently some have failed to notice how dissolute this country has become and, regardless of the opinions of all, we may be too far gone to change. I found the attached website tonight and it seems to explain, with amazing clarity, why we find ourselves to no longer be able to function as a society or, regretfully, as a nation. The article should make people stop and think about what has happened to us and ask the question, can we save ourselves? I wish I could say that I think we might but it will be impossible unless we turn back to God and plead with Him to send the Holy Spirit to us and bring a great revival and awakening. I know, as usual, there will be the same naysayers who will not believe but, if they can read this article and not identify where we stand, and why, it will be too late for them. Be that as it may, God help us all!


100 Facts About The Moral Collapse Of America That Are Almost Too Crazy To Believe | Alternative

And those are just the tip of the iceberg.

Amen, pretty much agree.

 

[Nacelle]

#25 In the United States today, more than half of all couples “move in together” before they get married.

That one isn't so bad. You've got to find out if she blows you the way you like, so you can decide if want keep getting that for the rest of your life. Sexual incompatibility if a major cause of divorce.

 

[SR9]

#25 In the United States today, more than half of all couples “move in together” before they get married.

That one isn't so bad. You've got to find out if she blows you the way you like, so you can decide if want keep getting that for the rest of your life. Sexual incompatibility if a major cause of divorce.

Bet your mama's proud of that kind of talk. Maybe we should forward it to her.

 

[Oldgrunt]

#25 In the United States today, more than half of all couples “move in together” before they get married.

That one isn't so bad. You've got to find out if she blows you the way you like, so you can decide if want keep getting that for the rest of your life. Sexual incompatibility if a major cause of divorce.

From your response, I take it that you uphold the immorality of those who choose that lifestyle. If sex is your only reason for marrying, you will definitely be among those divorcing and add to the validity of how we have fallen.

 

[Gregmm6]

From your response, I take it that you uphold the immorality of those who choose that lifestyle. If sex is your only reason for marrying, you will definitely be among those divorcing and add to the validity of how we have fallen.

I don't think that anyone is saying sex is the only reason to marry. Instead, just that physical compatibility is important in romantic relationships.

 

[sandetl]

My husband and I lived together for a year before we got married. I agree with test driving in all areas of compatibility before the commitment of marriage.

 

[sandetl]

Amen, pretty much agree.

I agree with all this also. I have said for years, guns aren't the problem, it's the break down of the traditional American family that is the problem.

 

[Nacelle]

When on person wants sex every other day and the other is fine with once a month, the marriage is doomed. I'm not saying there aren't examples to the contrary. In general it causes problems. Finding this out beforehand can save you from a bad marriage before it starts.

 

[sandetl]

When on person wants sex every other day and the other is fine with once a month, the marriage is doomed. I'm not saying there aren't examples to the contrary. In general it causes problems. Finding this out beforehand can save you from a bad marriage before it starts.

I disagree. Marriage is for life and there are many many phases to it during that time. When men are younger, they want sex more often. When women are older, they want sex more often. It's just a part of life and those issues like so many other need to be worked out between the two as they surface.

 

[Nacelle]

Like I say, there are examples to the contrary. But in general it doesn't work. Sure people change throughout their life. And I bet that is a major cause of those divorces. Some can figure it out, others can't. But to say otherwise is just naive.

 

[sandetl]

Like I say, there are examples to the contrary. But in general it doesn't work. Sure people change throughout their life. And I bet that is a major cause of those divorces. Some can figure it out, others can't. But to say otherwise is just naive.

It's not some people, that is a natural chemical change we all go through. It's like learning how to walk, talk, eventually getting wrinkles, etc. just a part of life. It is definitely a major cause for divorce. It is also a poor excuse for a divorce and just shows that Americans have lost the idea of what marriage is and what a traditionally family is. It is about committing to each other in good and bad times and working through any and all things that come up along the way. People just don't do that anymore. If they aren't happy, they move on.

 

[sandetl]

Another example, not sex related. The 7yr itch. Everyone has heard of it, we know it exists, it's so bad that it has a name. Yet married couples get to that phase, yes it is just another phase, and they divorce. Why if you know it exists, you feel the resentment, dislike, even hatred, your in that time frame...why get divorced. You will hit that 7 yr itch again with another spouse. Why don't we just hang in there and wait for it to pass? Because in this country, we don't value marriage the way we should. Again, if we are unhappy, we move on.