Positive LEO encounters...

[JosephHill]

From the state of Tennessee: I had an encounter with multiple officers 2 nights ago; not sure how many were within speaking range for awhile, but there were 10+ of their cars and some of the officers were walking around (there had been a suspected shooting very nearby they were responding to). I talked to 3 and was nearby several others; had a .45 on my hip semi-concealed, and not concealed at all later with my coat off. I have a carry permit and made sure the first 2 I spoke with saw it before the gun.

None reacted at all, except that a Lieutenant I spent some time talking with later asked if I had a permit, and commented twice as we briefly discussed carry permits "I think that's great" (armed civilians with permits).

A number of times I've been pulled over in different parts of TN, AL, and years back in FL, never had an issue, and more than half of the times ended up chatting with the officers about what kind of guns we liked and other things relating to handguns. Similar situations with several friends and family members who also carry with permits.

There are clearly bad cops out there, but at least in my area I can definitely say most are not, and have no issue with people carrying legally; I've been told that many see it as a sign that you are (or at least were when last renewing permits) law abiding citizens.

 

[BluesStringer]

From the state of Tennessee: I had an encounter with multiple officers 2 nights ago; not sure how many were within speaking range for awhile, but there were 10+ of their cars and some of the officers were walking around (there had been a suspected shooting very nearby they were responding to). I talked to 3 and was nearby several others; had a .45 on my hip semi-concealed, and not concealed at all later with my coat off. I have a carry permit and made sure the first 2 I spoke with saw it before the gun.

None reacted at all, except that a Lieutenant I spent some time talking with later asked if I had a permit, and commented twice as we briefly discussed carry permits "I think that's great" (armed civilians with permits).

A number of times I've been pulled over in different parts of TN, AL, and years back in FL, never had an issue, and more than half of the times ended up chatting with the officers about what kind of guns we liked and other things relating to handguns. Similar situations with several friends and family members who also carry with permits.

There are clearly bad cops out there, but at least in my area I can definitely say most are not, and have no issue with people carrying legally; I've been told that many see it as a sign that you are (or at least were when last renewing permits) law abiding citizens.

Neato.

 

[JosephHill]

Neato.

?Ouch, that hurt? How did I not expect any sarcasm in response to my post...

Seriously, while I don't like or support the 'duty to inform' required here {corrected) (and most other states) {corrected, pending verification**, or the requirement to have a permit to exercise a right that 'shall not be infringed upon', I do follow these laws as I prefer the liberty I do have, as opposed to free room and board in a cage.

I thought adding to the few positive posts here would be a nice change to the long string of horrors happening across the country, as it is a category for 'Anything pertaining to encounters with law enforcement'.

 

[Eidolon]

?Ouch, that hurt? How did I not expect any sarcasm in response to my post...

Very few people that use this site care for the police or the Fedgov. (did I use the buzzword Du Jour correctly?). They are manlymen who are very vocal (on the web) about the need for a new revolution (someday) and are pretty much not going to respond positively to anything good posted about the police

Seriously, while I don't like or support the 'duty to inform' required here (and most other states), or the requirement to have a permit to exercise a right that 'shall not be infringed upon', I do follow these laws as I prefer the liberty I do have, as opposed to free room and board in a cage.

Statements like the above will also get you hammered here because they display not only your ignorance (Tennessee does not require you to inform the offficer you are carrying) but your unwillingness to do research at last count only 10 out of 50 states require permit holders to inform the police that they are armed and one of them doesn't attach any penalty for failure to do so.

 

[JosephHill]

Very few people that use this site care for the police or the Fedgov. (did I use the buzzword Du Jour correctly?). They are manlymen who are very vocal (on the web) about the need for a new revolution (someday) and are pretty much not going to respond positively to anything good posted about the police

Good to know, thank you... I've read a bit on this forum over the last couple days, but only a fraction of what the site contains so far.

Statements like the above will also get you hammered here because they display not only your ignorance (Tennessee does not require you to inform the offficer you are carrying) but your unwillingness to do research at last count only 10 out of 50 states require permit holders to inform the police that they are armed and one of them doesn't attach any penalty for failure to do so.

Thank you for this information as well; my information on TN 'must inform' law was based on memory of a safety class almost 10 years ago, which I have no idea if this was changed since, or incorrect then as well. I'm pretty sure I'll still always show my permit before a gun is seen when not carrying totally concealed, but at other times this is good info to have.

Regarding other states, I have a book on the way listing every state's applicable laws, so will soon be much better informed thankfully; in the meantime I am happy to hear this as I was only going on what I've read online (which isn't always correct, hence buying the book).

Thank you for the information.

 

[BluesStringer]

Neato.

?Ouch, that hurt? How did I not expect any sarcasm in response to my post...

Dude, if you're happy, then I'm happy for you. If just saying "Neato" "hurt" you, how could you have even survived simply saying, "Nice" or "Good job" or "Atta boy?" There's nothing inherently critical or sarcastic about the word. Jeesh.

Seriously, while I don't like or support the 'duty to inform' required here (and most other states), or the requirement to have a permit to exercise a right that 'shall not be infringed upon', I do follow these laws as I prefer the liberty I do have, as opposed to free room and board in a cage.

Never thought I'd ever say this, but please refer to Eidelon's second paragraph (though I strongly suggest you ignore his first paragraph as nothing more than his typical troll-bait blather). Neither TN or AL (or FL for that matter) have a duty to inform. You're welcome to do it if you believe it somehow lets the cops know you're "one of the good guys," but my experience is that if the cop is one of the good guys, informing without a law mandating that you do will just make him/her think you're kissing up to their non-existent authority. And if the cop is not one of the good guys, they'll give you grief whether you immediately inform or simply tell the truth if they ask. If they believe that your permission slip establishes you as a good guy, they need to find a new job, because sooner or later reliance on such flimsy evidence is likely to get them killed.

I thought adding to the few positive posts here would be a nice change to the long string of horrors happening across the country, as it is a category for 'Anything pertaining to encounters with law enforcement'.

Neato.

Welcome to to the forums.

Blues

 

[wolf_fire]

?Ouch, that hurt? How did I not expect any sarcasm in response to my post...

Seriously, while I don't like or support the 'duty to inform' required here {corrected) (and most other states) {corrected, pending verification**, or the requirement to have a permit to exercise a right that 'shall not be infringed upon', I do follow these laws as I prefer the liberty I do have, as opposed to free room and board in a cage.

I thought adding to the few positive posts here would be a nice change to the long string of horrors happening across the country, as it is a category for 'Anything pertaining to encounters with law enforcement'.

But becoming accustomed to these infringements (duty to inform, duty to ask permission for a right, etc) and then publicly stating how nice the officers were when I showed them my permission slips and let them know I was exercising a right is the beginnings of the path to the same horrors you just admonished.

Great, the cops were nice about it. So what? They still made you by law tell them you were exercising a right, and then made you by law show them the proof you were allowed to do so. Edit: apparently it isn't even necessary to inform them... so you just did it to appease the cops??? This is another website you should get accustomed to: http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/tennessee.pdf

What reaction did you want from us?

I'm glad you are a new member to the forum... welcome. But I will never be glad of any infringement on my rights.

 

[mappow]

From the state of Tennessee: I had an encounter with multiple officers 2 nights ago; not sure how many were within speaking range for awhile, but there were 10+ of their cars and some of the officers were walking around (there had been a suspected shooting very nearby they were responding to). I talked to 3 and was nearby several others; had a .45 on my hip semi-concealed, and not concealed at all later with my coat off. I have a carry permit and made sure the first 2 I spoke with saw it before the gun.

None reacted at all, except that a Lieutenant I spent some time talking with later asked if I had a permit, and commented twice as we briefly discussed carry permits "I think that's great" (armed civilians with permits).

A number of times I've been pulled over in different parts of TN, AL, and years back in FL, never had an issue, and more than half of the times ended up chatting with the officers about what kind of guns we liked and other things relating to handguns. Similar situations with several friends and family members who also carry with permits.

There are clearly bad cops out there, but at least in my area I can definitely say most are not, and have no issue with people carrying legally; I've been told that many see it as a sign that you are (or at least were when last renewing permits) law abiding citizens.

Glad to hear it. Most Leo's will react the same, cowboys not so much.

 

[JosephHill]

Quoting several posts is a pain in the butt on my phone, so I won't try...

"Neato" didn't "hurt" me, I assure you; I did take it to be the sarcasm it was however, to which I responded with a little of my own. I love sarcasm, even if its targeted at me... just makes life more fun I suppose.

And thank you for the link, I actually had already done what you advise; recognize the trolling in Eidolon's post, yet read up on his statements, thus correcting my post and spending the afternoon reading. My post thanking him was all, or at least mostly, genuine, definitely regarding him prompting me to read up and be better informed with the status quo. I appreciated it and was admitting I was wrong and genuinely thanking him for that portion.

 

[Eidolon]

recognize the trolling in Eidolon's post, yet read up on his statements, .

Read some of the conspiracy theory crap that gets posted here then come back and tell me I'm the troll

 

[BluesStringer]

"Neato" didn't "hurt" me, I assure you; did take it to be the sarcasm it was however,

It really wasn't sarcasm. It was more like exasperation, incredulity, an actual loss for words, which anyone around here can tell you is extremely rare for me. I meant it, if you're happy, then I'm happy for you, but explaining why I'm incredulous over you being happy with the encounter you described would be pointless, so neato, I'm glad you're happy. That's all, except to say I'll thank you to have a basis from which to imply I'm lying when you say you've taken something for "what it is" after I've already told you that ain't what it was. Fair 'nuff?

Read some of the conspiracy theory crap that gets posted here then come back and tell me I'm the troll

I read just about every word of this sub-forum, the General, Deadly Force and the Law, Open and Concealed Carry sub-forums, a lot of Politics and Off-Topic, and you're the troll.

Blues

 

[duke7595]

?Ouch, that hurt? How did I not expect any sarcasm in response to my post...

Seriously, while I don't like or support the 'duty to inform' required here {corrected) (and most other states) {corrected, pending verification**, or the requirement to have a permit to exercise a right that 'shall not be infringed upon', I do follow these laws as I prefer the liberty I do have, as opposed to free room and board in a cage.

I thought adding to the few positive posts here would be a nice change to the long string of horrors happening across the country, as it is a category for 'Anything pertaining to encounters with law enforcement'.

Nice post JosephHill, don't take to heart anything this cop hater says, his bemused mind is that of a one way street he lacks the mental capacity to reason and displays only his thoughts,
hence the one way street. I believe it to be a environment issue as he works with, and around porno all day, given the people that visit such places it would rub off on one with unfavorable
results, so i would pay no attention to this dildo salesman.

 

[BluesStringer]

Nice post JosephHill, don't take to heart anything this cop hater says, his bemused mind is that of a one way street he lacks the mental capacity to reason and displays only his thoughts,
hence the one way street. I believe it to be a environment issue as he works with, and around porno all day, given the people that visit such places it would rub off on one with unfavorable
results, so i would pay no attention to this ***** salesman.

HAHAHA! This, Joseph, is the prime example of why cops are not to be trusted. They lie, they abuse, they tyrannize and then expect people to lick their boots.

And speaking of ******, duke, yo' mama still hasn't picked hers up.....

Good grief, you make it so easy.

Blues

 

[cds0699]

Very few people that use this site care for the police or the Fedgov. (did I use the buzzword Du Jour correctly?). They are manlymen who are very vocal (on the web) about the need for a new revolution (someday) and are pretty much not going to respond positively to anything good posted about the police.

Speak for yourself. I like most police officers, most are good men and women serving their community. You can't lump all Leo's in the same group because of a few bad apples. I hope rule of law stays, we do need a revolution, but I sincerely hope it's a peaceful revolution. There would be no winner in forceful revolution.


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[Firefighterchen]

Speak for yourself. I like most police officers, most are good men and women serving their community. You can't lump all Leo's in the same group because of a few bad apples. I hope rule of law stays, we do need a revolution, but I sincerely hope it's a peaceful revolution. There would be no winner in forceful revolution.


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I'm pretty sure there was a winner in the last forceful revolution...

All the "good cops" stand by as cops like duke run wild.

Duke, what department do you work for? I'm guessing the outlet mall.

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[cds0699]

I'm pretty sure there was a winner in the last forceful revolution...

Wasn't really a win, it was and it wasn't. Too many lives were lost and too much blood spilled.


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[Firefighterchen]

Wasn't really a win, it was and it wasn't. Too many lives were lost and too much blood spilled.


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It was a win.

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[Eidolon]

I'm pretty sure there was a winner in the last forceful revolution...

In the last forceful revolution we didnn't have to worry about Russia, China or the Jihadiis stepping in. If there was another American Civil war there's no way the rest of the world would stand back and let us sort it out.

 

[NavyLCDR]

Seriously, while I don't like or support the 'duty to inform' required here {corrected) (and most other states)

Only 10 states have a duty to inform, and Ohio was working on repealing theirs. That is hardly "most other states".