pistol permit in upstate NY
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Contact the issuing office in the county you will be living. Start with the County Sheriff office. some of them have websites with info about permits.
All carry permits in NY are for concealed only. There is no open cary in NY with the exception of hunting as described in the NY fish and game laws.
Until you are a resident, I don't think you can apply for a NYS concealed carry license. Could you have a dealer you trust hold your guns while you were moving and getting settled here? I don't know the legal issues that would be involved in that, but once you have a NY permit, you could have one FFL ship them to an FFL in your new area. Be aware that it can take up to 6 months to get the paperwork returned in some counties. Long guns, outside of NYC are not a problem.
John
John
Hey all:
Since I am in the training and education end of things and deeply involved with the only approved CCW Upgrade Training class in Broome, I can tell you that they will issue you a 'restricted permit' initially. It's kind of like a permit for a driver's license. Then, go out and gain the valuable and necessary education and training required to carry in public (Laws, regulations, do's and don't, etc) by attending a class that has been reviewed and cleared by the Judge and you can then submit to get the full, 'UNrestricted permit'.
Even before I became an instructor, I believed that you need to know a lot more than just how the gun works and that you can hit a paper target at 10 yds. You need to know the mindset behind carrying, the laws of where you are, when you would be justified, etc., before you even start to carry in public. It is too often that people are less than excited about educating themselves about firearms. In the classes I do, it is highly evident that education is the most important part of the picture, rather than what gun, how, where, and what club do I join.
All I can do it encourage everyone to go to a class that talks about the legalities, use of force, mindset, and more. If you can sit there and say "Yeah, I already know that stuff" and it has been a while, maybe think about doing another class again, just to update yourselves on anything new.
Remember, you are carrying an awesome type of responsibility. You owe it to yourselves and others to earn it.
Dave
Since I am in the training and education end of things and deeply involved with the only approved CCW Upgrade Training class in Broome, I can tell you that they will issue you a 'restricted permit' initially. It's kind of like a permit for a driver's license. Then, go out and gain the valuable and necessary education and training required to carry in public (Laws, regulations, do's and don't, etc) by attending a class that has been reviewed and cleared by the Judge and you can then submit to get the full, 'UNrestricted permit'.
Even before I became an instructor, I believed that you need to know a lot more than just how the gun works and that you can hit a paper target at 10 yds. You need to know the mindset behind carrying, the laws of where you are, when you would be justified, etc., before you even start to carry in public. It is too often that people are less than excited about educating themselves about firearms. In the classes I do, it is highly evident that education is the most important part of the picture, rather than what gun, how, where, and what club do I join.
All I can do it encourage everyone to go to a class that talks about the legalities, use of force, mindset, and more. If you can sit there and say "Yeah, I already know that stuff" and it has been a while, maybe think about doing another class again, just to update yourselves on anything new.
Remember, you are carrying an awesome type of responsibility. You owe it to yourselves and others to earn it.
Dave
chroode
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Change your mind and move somewhere else. :biggrin:
hunter won
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NYS Penal Law section 400 has two types of pistol licenses carry & premise.Counties like Nassau,Suffolk,Westchester have restriction's To & From Range or Hunting.For example a person with a Sullivan County unrestricted license who is visiting a friend in Nassau County is allowed to carry a gun concealed but his friend who has a Nassau Target permit is prohibited from carrying his weapon unless he is going to the indoor range.Being a police officer for many years I have encountered many people carrying a loaded weapon on them with just a Target restricted permit.The reason was they belonged to a 24/7 gun range and were going to do some target practice which is never the case.Most cops don't like guns and are against a civilian carrying a gun and would call the pistol license section to report a licensee was in possesion/carrying and have the licensee revoked.Depending on where you live in New York the trend now is restricted issue or what some call a Sportsman license.
hunter won
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The trend upstate for new permits being issued have been placed with restrictions unless you show cause to carry concealed.Being a police officer for many years I have stopped people who were speeding and just happened to hand over there permit with there driver license.The reason they would have it was because they belonged to a 24/7 indoor gun range.So it seems like a good excuse but in reality most cops hate guns and would be quick to report it to the pistol license section to have your permit revoked.New York has many liberal residents and elect anti-gun politicians.For example you can carry your concealed weapon with an unrestricted upstate license in Nassau County a suburb of NYC but that person who has a Nassau target permit must leave his gun home.However it's not a crime to be caught carrying with your target/sportsman permit.
The trend upstate for new permits being issued have been placed with restrictions unless you show cause to carry concealed.Being a police officer for many years I have stopped people who were speeding and just happened to hand over there permit with there driver license.The reason they would have it was because they belonged to a 24/7 indoor gun range.So it seems like a good excuse but in reality most cops hate guns and would be quick to report it to the pistol license section to have your permit revoked.New York has many liberal residents and elect anti-gun politicians.For example you can carry your concealed weapon with an unrestricted upstate license in Nassau County a suburb of NYC but that person who has a Nassau target permit must leave his gun home.However it's not a crime to be caught carrying with your target/sportsman permit.
hunter won
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Most cops are anti-gun and you sure can expect to have your permit revoked by the judge or the Police Dept.I have seen it happen good luck with trying to get your permit back.
Most cops are anti-gun and you sure can expect to have your permit revoked by the judge or the Police Dept.I have seen it happen good luck with trying to get your permit back.
I'm going to ask this question so I know that it was asked. Is whatever is there in New York State worth giving up a lot of your Second Amendment rights for?
You don't give up your 2nd ammendment rights outside of New York city, but you do have to work harder to keep the use of them. The benefits of NY are the recreational opportunities in the state. The scenic and historic areas are great. On the other hand, I don't think any state other than Kalifornia pays more taxes. I stay here because of family responsibilities. When they have ended, I'll be seeing NY in the rear view mirror.
6shootercarry
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I have a family summer home on the western edge of the Adirondack Park in Lewis County and it’s been a 2nd home for me for the past 41 years. I love the area and would be hard pressed to never go. I however would be hard pressed to live there as the taxes are harsh. Get that, the guy from Taxachusetts thinks the NY taxes are Harsh… I live in MA (Difficult to get LTC here… Not as bad as NY I must type) and would love to carry over the border but they do not issue Non-res permits. After reading the posts by tag1737 and RochPersDef I agree with both. Yes the new license may not be the same level or class of license currently held in the state you reside in now, but doing this right will keep you in the good graces of the local license issuing judge. I agree with checking the local and state laws fully and consulting with the local LE-Office (Sheriff’s office or State police). Contacting the county Judge (use the information from the web site link here Link Removed) and inquire as to the procedures and ask if the same level of permit can be obtained. It may take just sending a copy of the license issued to you now. Some dialog with the judge now could make things easier. Maybe the judge is a reasonable fellow and with good manners, lots of “please” and a big helping of “thank you your honor” Who knows could go a long way... Just some ideas… I don’t consider that BUTT Kissin, I would call that survival tactics...
This topic came up at nyfirearms.org recently and this is the consensus on Broome County -- the county is issuing restricted licenses to all applicants. Once an applicant has held a license and has completed a safety course, the applicant can petition the court to have the restrictions removed (e.g. for a "full carry" or unrestricted carry license). The court will often approve the request and remove the restrictions. No guarantee though. I do not know how Broome would handle the situation where an already licensed NY resident moves into the county and transfers a license -- whether they would re-issue a full carry to an applicant who had a full carry, or whether they would agree to hear a request to remove restrictions at the time the "new" Broome County license was issued.
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