A very strict reading of the law says that they must notify you that they are denying it wiithin 90 days but it doesn't actually say that they have to issue it in the 90 days. It just says that if they don't notify you within 90 days they have to go ahead and issue it sometime later. I know it is splitting hairs but........:jester: Notice that is says from the time it was received, not from the time you mailed it or took the course. :neo: There is some grey area here and I dount that a judge is going to find SLED in violation for taking 92 days or that the mailman takes his sweet time getting it to your mailbox. :dirol:
If they fail to notify you and issue a permit but later find out that you were a mass murderer then they can reposses it.
The restaurant section is long over due, and FN1910 - I got my SC CWP right after 9/11 and got mine back inside the 90 days. I cant imagine that SLED and the FBI are more busy now than back then.
The school grounds carry part however... the only part of that worries me some, is if SC gains more reciprocal states such as MS, there is no training program required. So they may have a clean background but as long as they pay their money they can carry unsafe and improperly without "knowing" it. School kids aren't unobservant, and for "fun" may cause the carrier troubles. This would be a very rare case, but something to think about.
parent Dottie Hanlin sees it much differently. “I don’t feel comfortable with having any kind of firearm on a school campus, except for those that belong to the resource officer. I teach in a public school and I just don’t think it’s something we need to be dealing with when we’re trying to educate our children,“ she says.
Like the BG not going to bring a gun because it’s against the law. When will they learn? :wacko:
S.347 is dead but has been replace with S.593. S.593 is the same bil except without the restaurant part and was passed by the full judiciary committee yesterday and set to the Senate to be placed on the calendar.
2009-2010 Bill 593: Weapons - South Carolina Legislature Online
This section does not apply to a person who is authorized to carry a concealed weapon pursuant to Article 4, Chapter 31, Title 23 when the weapon remains inside an attended or locked motor vehicle and is secured in a closed glove compartment, closed console, closed trunk, or in a closed container secured by an integral fastener and transported in the luggage compartment of the vehicle.
2009-2010 Bill 593: Weapons - South Carolina Legislature Online
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Now the bad news. It was amended on the floor to say that you can have a gun in your car as long as you hae a CWP but the gun must be in your console, glove box, trunk etc.
This means that when you drive onto the school grounds you will have to put it in the console rather than keeping it in your holster. I expect it to pass the Senate now and also the House. This is not what we wanted but it is a start.
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Actually, this was the sequence of events...
S. 593 passed out of the Senate Judiciary Committee with a unanimous vote of approval with the amendment that GrassRoots asked to have approved. But, at least one member - Brad Hutto - of the Judiciary Committee did not attend the Judiciary Committee meeting. Sen. Hutto - sometime after the finish of the Judiciary Committee meeting - added a "minority report" to the bill. The minority report serves to put S.593 on the contested calendar. Being on the contested calendar is usually a kiss of death for a bill (although, every bill that GrassRoots has pushed has ended up on the contested calendar before getting enacted into law or killed).
There are three ways to get a bill off of the contested calendar:
1. The senator who put the minority report on the bill can ask to have it removed by unanimous consent of the Senate.
2. The Senate can vote by a 2/3 majority to put the bill on the special order calendar (only two bills can ever be on the special order calendar at any one time, which makes those two spots very valuable).
3. The Senate Rules Committee can vote by a 2/3 majority to put the bill on the special order calendar.
Sen. Hutto informed Senators Larry Martin (chair of the Rules Committee and member of the Judiciary Committee) and Shane Martin (sponsor of S. 593) that he would be willing to remove his minority
report if he could have the bill amended to require that the concealed weapon only be allowed on school property if carried according to Section 16-23-20(9) (i.e., glove box, console, trunk, luggage area).
So, the question became whether to allow Hutto's amendment - as stupid as it is - and get S. 593 over to the House before the May 1 deadline (unless given special treatment, bills must go from one chamber to the
other before May 1 to be eligible for enactment into law that year) OR wait until next year and see if we could first get the bill onto the special order calendar and then passed by the Senate. The decision
was made to allow Hutto's amendment and send the bill to the House ASAP. It appears we will be able to get S. 593 enacted into law this year as long as there are no intervening current events to mess things
up.
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Please note that Hutto did not attend the committee meeting where the bill passed unanimously, but waited until after to place a minority report... a ploy to avoid confrontation, as I'm sure he knew of the support for it. Perhaps he's due a flurry of e-mails/calls expressing outrage?
Howard
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