I'm not buying it. I highly doubt anyone was advertising that getting a UT permit was a way to get around the NM requirements. I would love to see any substantive evidence that any UT permit holders have acted in any illegal or responsible way at any rate greater than NM permit holders. It's all about the $$$ for all involved. NM doesn't like losing permit money to another state. So the easy target is UT. Likewise, why would someone get a license that costs $100 every 4 years, when they could get one that has even more reciprocal agreements and only cost $65 (+/-) the first time, and only $10 every 5 years thereafter?“We’ve had situations where certain concealed carry instructors in New Mexico solicit clients with the promise that if they train here and obtain a Utah license, which entails significantly less training than does a New Mexico license, it will qualify here,” said Department of Public Safety Secretary John Denko. “This is incorrect, and is nothing less than an effort to circumvent New Mexico concealed carry requirements which are designed to protect the public safety while honoring individual rights under the Second Amendment of the constitution.”
I'm not buying it. I highly doubt anyone was advertising that getting a UT permit was a way to get around the NM requirements. I would love to see any substantive evidence that any UT permit holders have acted in any illegal or responsible way at any rate greater than NM permit holders. It's all about the $$$ for all involved. NM doesn't like losing permit money to another state. So the easy target is UT. Likewise, why would someone get a license that costs $100 every 4 years, when they could get one that has even more reciprocal agreements and only cost $65 (+/-) the first time, and only $10 every 5 years thereafter?
What a crock. Well, I guess I avoid NM until I get a FL permit. I doubt that I'm missing much.
I just updated the maps to reflect this change. Thanks.
I'm not buying it. I highly doubt anyone was advertising that getting a UT permit was a way to get around the NM requirements. I would love to see any substantive evidence that any UT permit holders have acted in any illegal or responsible way at any rate greater than NM permit holders. It's all about the $$$ for all involved. NM doesn't like losing permit money to another state. So the easy target is UT. Likewise, why would someone get a license that costs $100 every 4 years, when they could get one that has even more reciprocal agreements and only cost $65 (+/-) the first time, and only $10 every 5 years thereafter?
What a crock. Well, I guess I avoid NM until I get a FL permit. I doubt that I'm missing much.
I'm not buying it. I highly doubt anyone was advertising that getting a UT permit was a way to get around the NM requirements. I would love to see any substantive evidence that any UT permit holders have acted in any illegal or responsible way at any rate greater than NM permit holders. It's all about the $$$ for all involved. NM doesn't like losing permit money to another state. So the easy target is UT. Likewise, why would someone get a license that costs $100 every 4 years, when they could get one that has even more reciprocal agreements and only cost $65 (+/-) the first time, and only $10 every 5 years thereafter?
What a crock. Well, I guess I avoid NM until I get a FL permit. I doubt that I'm missing much.
Sorry if that came off as a knock on NM. My point about not missing much is that I've gone this long without visiting the state, it won't kill me to avoid it until I am able to CC there.Sorry you feel that way. The Land of Enchantment really is enchanting.
OK, this is different than the claim that Department of Public Safety Secretary John Denko is making, that it "is nothing less than an effort to circumvent New Mexico concealed carry requirements". He may as well have called it a loophole. The problem with the claim is that no one was circumventing anything. Everything was aboveboard and legal. So who in their right mind would pay for a NM permit if a UT permit is acceptable? Sure, the fact that the training part is less intensive is a kicker. But I highly doubt that the majority of applicants based their decisions solely on the training requirements.It is true though that there were/are 'instructors' who were advertising, mostly word of mouth or at gun shows, that their cheaper, one day class for Utah's license would take care of New Mexico. Which it did. These 'instructors' were undercutting the NM certified instructors who have to do a two day, 16 hour, class, that usually included the Utah certification if they were so certified. The Utah only instructors were just not providing the same training.
Judging the DPS release, it looks like it only effects CC. Since no permit is required to OC in NM, this should have no effect on that.Does this change have any effect on OC? Absent the places restricted under federal law (school zones, federal property, etc.) Is OC still possible without a NM recognized license/permit?
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There is a difference, especially, for those of us who travel to certain states. There are states, such as our neighbor Colorado, which do not recognize licenses that are not issued by one's state of residence. There are other reasons to have your own states license that have to do with federal law and proximity to schools.
AZ did the same thing with the Utah permit, for the same reasons. The only thing AZ did was to say if you're an AZ resident you will have an AZ permit. When the new law takes effect, it won't matter. My point is, NM should just state if you're a resident, you have to have a NM permit. And then change to the AK, VT, & AZ way.:victory:
There is the problem In New Mexico you have to be a you have to be a US citizen to get a NM CCW so that is not good to me as I'm a permanent Resident IE green card holder so if they will not allow Utah and maybe Florida there are going to be more people OCing
I know at least one resident alien Canadian with a NM license. I don't know if he just slipped through or what.
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