Has Zimmerman Waived His Right to a Pre-Trial "Stand-Your-Ground" Hearing?

Law of Self Defense

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I've seen a tsunami of headlines by the mainstream media this past week about how George Zimmerman has allegedly waived his right to a pre-trial "Stand-Your-Ground" hearing, and speculation on their part that this is yet "another" sign of how desperately week his self defense case is.

As usual, the mainstream media have it completely wrong, on every count.

First, Zimmerman didn't waive anything, he simply let a tentatively assigned date for the hearing go, so the court knew it could use that date for other purposes. He's still free to make a motion for the pre-trial hearing at a later date (subject, as always, to the judge's discretion, but Judge Nelson in the video I've seen certainly seems favorably inclined to such a motion). The actual trial isn't scheduled to begin until June 10. (In the same video one case see the prosecution flailing desperately to have the record reflect some kind of "waiver" by Zimmerman on the issue, but the judge clearly shuts that down.)

Second, the prosecution doesn't seem to really know what it's talking about. Although they refer to the pre-trial hearing as a "Stand-Your-Ground" hearing, there is no such thing under Florida law. Instead, the pre-trial hearing is to ascertain whether Zimmerman qualifies under Florida's self-defense immunity statute. If he does, the charges against him would be immediately dismissed (and, incidentally, he would be immunized against civil claims, as well). When the prosecution can't keep its statutes and pre-trial hearings straight, it doesn't exactly make me think they've got the upper hand on the defense.

Third, there are good strategic reasons why the defense might wish to delay the pre-trial hearing or even to wait until the actual trial to make a motion for self defense immunity, so any such delay or even a "waiver" of the pre-trial hearing does not mean the defense is necessarily weak. For example, it's pretty common knowledge that the prosecution has been "slow-rolling" the defense on discovery matters, and when that's the case it's usually in the best interests of the defense to delay as long as possible, so that they can collect as much discovery as possible, before the "shooting" part of the legal battle begins.

Anyway, I was just completely astonished at how badly the mainstream media had read this thing (although I know I shouldn't have been, it's not like they get much else right, and they want Zimmerman to be found guilty so bad they can taste it), and I thought it might be worthwhile to throw in some informed two-cents, for those who are interested.

For those interested in the legal details backing up everything I've stated above, feel free to take a look at my blog entry on it, which includes all relevant cases and statutes, and even some video of the judge smacking down the prosecution. The blog post can be found here: Link Removed

Andrew
 
i read that he didnt want to use the self-defense immunity statute because he would rather be found not guilty than it just dismissed.his thinking is he would be better recieved in public if had a not guilty verdict.both would be based on facts(or percieved facts,who will ever know for sure) but a trial would get these facts out better and if by jury,even better.
 
Much of the benefit of the civil immunity statute, FL 776.032 Immunity from criminal prosecution and civil action for justifiable use of force," [here: Link Removed, is that you can use it early in the process, and if you win, avoid the long, drawn out multi-month time and expense and reputation-destruction of a full-blown trial.

In this case, the trial is only three months away, so that benefit is pretty much lost already.

Also, at the pretrial hearing the burden of proof is on the defense, by a preponderance of the evidence, to prove that Zimmerman acted in self defense.

At trial, the burden of proof is on the prosecution, beyond a reasonably doubt, to prove that Zimmerman DID NOT act in self defense.

Finally, the prosecution has allegedly been slow-rolling discovery--for example, they didn't admit until less than two weeks ago that their key witness, #8, had totally falsified her hospitalization story, although they certainly knew much sooner. The defense probably figures it's better to delay the "shooting" part of the contest as long as possible so that the prosecution has been forced to meet their full discovery obligations rather than continue to hide evidence favorable to Zimmerman.

Andrew
 
He is not going to give the prosecution two shots at him.......That is the only reason this was done.
 
Well main stream media already has him guilty and convicted.. soo honestly I wouldn't want to do things twice anyway. Once and done!
Just ignore the media circus because they will continue to tout the belief he is guilty, and that he is white, and that he used racial slurs and other crap. Anything to push their own agenda and get ratings.

This is why I personally ignore main stream media and news outlets. most of the live reporting is all conjecture and or outright lies and falsehoods. Better to just find alternate news outlets and or multiple news stories and then cobble together your own idea of what happened.
 
One of the men at the Fire Station told me that he'd heard on some program that he had already been convicted of manslaughter. I told him I didn't think so. Maybe he just heard some diehard liberal say he should be convicted of at least manslaughter... or something like that. Rumors abound.
 
Sad part is original call should have been under the stand your ground law Florida, but this should clear the air with the sweet little boys girl friend caught in her lie.
 
Well if this is the case can we call out all the liberals still trying to use this case to get stand your ground repealed? It has no bearing as it hasn't been invoked in this case.
 
Well if this is the case can we call out all the liberals still trying to use this case to get stand your ground repealed? It has no bearing as it hasn't been invoked in this case.

when did not having the facts right ever stop a liberal?
 

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