Never heard of one being used but I'd think it would be like getting hit by only part of an underpowered birdshot pattern. Something like that might be ok for bringing down terrorists in an airplane, where they're unlikely to have a firearm of their own. Or, you might be able to use it effective in a tropical climate where no one wears thick clothing.
If you shoot someone with partially effective Glasers, and the other guy has Wally World special, who do you think is going to be in worse shape? That's a bad position to be in. Most BGs do use cheap ammo too, so there's going to be some serious overpenetration when you have FMJs flying around.
Just get some high-quality HPs or use a 4/10 with good shot that won't overpenetrate. If you're worried about flying bullets, put steel plate or thick wood in the walls of important rooms and then you'll have a measure of protection. It won't look bad with wallpaper over it.
... I'd think it would be like getting hit by only part of an underpowered birdshot pattern...
Think about it, if the Glasser round were as good as it's chocked up to be, then wouldn't there be LE agencies that use them? I'm not aware of any LE agency that uses the round as "standard issue".
They are made for a special purpose not general usage but are usually carried by US Air Marshalls as the standard round where lower penetration is desired.
I've heard of all kinds of new gimicky ammo in the past few years, and I'm not impressed by any of them, including this one. For a handgun, I'd just stick with JHPs and for a home defense shotgun, 00 Buckshot.
I heard they stopped using Glasers back in the 1990s. Maybe they finally got someone with one and it just didn't do the job.My Air Marshall buddy told me he uses frangible ammunition. I'll see if I can check out his duty ammo the next time he's in town. The little blue ball at the tip of the projectile shuld be a dead giveaway. ;-)
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It was not that long ago that JHP was a "new gimicky ammo". Link Removed
My daily carry is a Bersa 380 with the first two rounds frangible +p and Honady FTX after that. My reason for this is that I am mostly in crowded low threat environments and do not want to chance a shoot through. If the conditions warrant it I switch to my Ruger P85 with Hornady FTX. As in most cases a one type of carry does not fit all situations and one must adapt to their environment.As a consumer, I am very disappointed with the lack of effectiveness this would have had on a BG. I would advise someone to use 'real' bullets for the first rounds and then these to follow up for spite shots.
As a consumer, I am very disappointed with the lack of effectiveness this would have had on a BG. I would advise someone to use 'real' bullets for the first rounds and then these to follow up for spite shots.
It is noted in a previous response, these do not fire with a shotgun effect, thus they would be less suitable for blinding a BG than a rat shot cartridge (or shotgun) - they are a frangible projectile.
However, the numerous pellets are almost impossible to extract - should you find a surgeon who has time to do so.
I hope this helps someone survive and tend to enforce that sometimes familiarity can cause over confidence leading to an accidental discharge (AD).
My Air Marshall buddy told me he uses frangible ammunition. I'll see if I can check out his duty ammo the next time he's in town. The little blue ball at the tip of the projectile shuld be a dead giveaway. ;-)
gf
. There was no pain what so ever at the onset - where one would expect being shot at point blank would have at least made some impression.
Not necessarily so. I've been shot twice. Both times it didn't hurt until I realized I'd been shot, then it hurt like hell. I understand that the body has a mechanism to prevent pain. It's all in the brain, so to speak.
The first time I was shot in the left foot with a .357 that might have had .38's in it. the second time I was shot in the face from about a foot away with a pocket pistol loaded with .22 magnum. I was serving a warrant and the perp answered the door. He had one of those little stainless revolvers like fit in a belt buckle palmed in his right hand. He brought his hand up and I heard the shot, then I heard a second shot, then I heard a third shot; or what I thought was. He only fired once. The bullet struck me in the right fold of my nose and I stumbled back and fell as my partner grabbed the perp. I stood up and everytime my heart beat a stream of blood spurted out. I reached up and felt the hole, then stuck my finger in it to stop the blood loss. The hospital was about 2 miles away. He called for an ambulance as another unit arrived. I told him he had to take me to the hospital or I would bleed to death before the ambulance got me there. I remember getting in the back seat of the car and that's all I remember until I woke up in the emergency room (in and out of consciousness). I saw the car later, there was blood all over it like he had killed a hog in there or something.
When I got shot, it didn't hurt. When I stuck my finger in the hole it didn't hurt. When i was in the ER it didn't hurt but I may have been doped up by then, but the next day it was awful, and my head was black and about the size of a basketball. The bullet struck my nose area, fragmented into pieces. The bulk of it went thru my brain and lodged in my second vertebrate.
STILL THERE TODAY! They were afraid messing with it would paralyze me because it was lodged in the spine. I believe the fist bang was the actual shot, the second bang was the facial bone crushing and maybe the third bang was the bullet hitting the spine. I told the officers in the ER that he fired three shots. But he only fired one, so I don't know. All I know is that I heard three distinct simultaneous "cracks".
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