Before you throw your hands up just simply reading the title please do take into account:
I am looking to create a space conducive to discussion of this subject; it is a topic that is difficult to look at in the first place.
*You are of course entitled to your opinion and I expect a range of strong opinions, I simply ask that responses are structured with progression of this thread in mind.
I purchased (through a private party) a handgun at the age of 18. I am now almost 21 and going to get my CCW (only of course).
That being said, I have spent years being very frustrated. Knowing that the countless hours I took to educate myself as a gun owner amounted to me being more than qualified to carry my gun. Furthermore seeing a greater tie to age than knowledge in getting a CCW left me perplexed; sure many of my friends would not make great candidates to have a CCW, but neither should a good few of their parents that do!
I managed the waiting game to get my CCW by doing a handful of things. Adopting methods to carry I could practice realistically given my circumstances. Putting a safe under my car seat, carrying in a backpack, most importantly knowing my rights and knowing how to properly assert them.
Through my journey I met many others that did/are doing the same and discussed the topic with many. Here today I would like to bring the topic to a wider audience.
1. How do you feel about what I just shared
2. How could I have/ would you have approached everything (differently or not)
3. Do you feel like something should change to accommodate those like me, or not?
Please share and relevant thoughts!
Thank you.
Before you throw your hands up just simply reading the title please do take into account:
I am looking to create a space conducive to discussion of this subject; it is a topic that is difficult to look at in the first place.
*You are of course entitled to your opinion and I expect a range of strong opinions, I simply ask that responses are structured with progression of this thread in mind.
I purchased (through a private party) a handgun at the age of 18. I am now almost 21 and going to get my CCW (only of course).
That being said, I have spent years being very frustrated. Knowing that the countless hours I took to educate myself as a gun owner amounted to me being more than qualified to carry my gun. Furthermore seeing a greater tie to age than knowledge in getting a CCW left me perplexed; sure many of my friends would not make great candidates to have a CCW, but neither should a good few of their parents that do!
I managed the waiting game to get my CCW by doing a handful of things. Adopting methods to carry I could practice realistically given my circumstances. Putting a safe under my car seat, carrying in a backpack, most importantly knowing my rights and knowing how to properly assert them.
Through my journey I met many others that did/are doing the same and discussed the topic with many. Here today I would like to bring the topic to a wider audience.
1. How do you feel about what I just shared
2. How could I have/ would you have approached everything (differently or not)
3. Do you feel like something should change to accommodate those like me, or not?
Please share and relevant thoughts!
Thank you.
Interesting, and probably would apply to far more people than would admit it. And that is the problem. In this day and age of electronic snopping and trails, who in their right mind would come to a site and admit that they are or have been commiting a crime. Think that will be your challange.
Are you sure about that statement. In many states it is legal for 18 year old individuals to own, possess, or carry handguns. Alabama, where I live, is one of them. My understanding of the law is that a FFL cannot sell a handgun to anybody under the age of 21 however I do not believe that it is illegal to sell or buy or sell a handgun in a private sale to somebody 21 years of age. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Add to that, if the OP does get caught, you can be damned sure the DA will have this thread as evidence that he willfully violated the current restrictions to his rights.
§ 922. Unlawful acts
(x)
(1) It shall be unlawful for a person to sell, deliver, or otherwise transfer to a person who the transferor knows or has reasonable cause to believe is a juvenile—
(A) a handgun; or
(B) ammunition that is suitable for use only in a handgun.
(2) It shall be unlawful for any person who is a juvenile to knowingly possess—
(A) a handgun; or
(B) ammunition that is suitable for use only in a handgun.
(3) This subsection does not apply to—
(A) a temporary transfer of a handgun or ammunition to a juvenile or to the possession or use of a handgun or ammunition by a juvenile if the handgun and ammunition are possessed and used by the juvenile—
(i) in the course of employment, in the course of ranching or farming related to activities at the residence of the juvenile (or on property used for ranching or farming at which the juvenile, with the permission of the property owner or lessee, is performing activities related to the operation of the farm or ranch), target practice, hunting, or a course of instruction in the safe and lawful use of a handgun;
(5) For purposes of this subsection, the term “juvenile” means a person who is less than 18 years of age.
I didn’t get that he committed a crime out of his post, what I read was that he was working out ways to carry that would work for him. He never said that he was carrying a gun.
I do think it's a weird first post though
I purchased (through a private party) a handgun at the age of 18. <---- That part unless his particular state (there are not many of them)
No one here (at least as far as I can tell) would say that the current laws and regulations are the best when it comes to CWP. But, I am curious how you want to change it to make it better.
If you allow the government to change it, you can bet your last round it will be far more stricter.
To award a CWP based on training and knowledge and responsibility, etc, would require a complete genetic workup to see if there is an aggressive or anger issues in your genetic makeup.
To award a CWP based on knowledge, then those 8 year olds that grew up with a gun would pass with flying colors, even though they may not have reached a maturity level to be responsible.
To award a CWP based on intent and life style, would require a truth serum interrogation to get to every dark corner of your mind to determine your real reason.
To do all this, would cost well over $10K (from experience I know genetic workup is very expensive), and take months for the results.
This is a ridiculous. Just the fact that you getting a gun at 18 which you know is illegal, and that you are too impatient to wait until you are 21 proves that you would have failed the very tests that you need to get your CWP early.
Best advice, lock the gun up, get some formal training, follow this forum and learn from those who really do know what carrying a gun requires.
But then, this is just my 2 cents
The MAJORITY of states allow handgun purchase and possession at 18. Quick count is only 16 do not.
Age to OC | OpenCarry.org
Only if you wimp out and allow your Constitutional rights to be infringed on by someone who is breaking their oath as they infringe on them.... ANY attempt at infringing on my 2nd Amendment rights comes with the real, proven danger of losing everything I have ever worked for (AND my life itself) just because of a law-breaking govt..... I take that as a life threatening confrontation and WILL defend myself as if my life depends on it, because my life DOES depend on it....Good for you. Conceal carry without the permit. When or if you ever have that "imminent threat" confrontation and end up seriously injuring or killing the BG, I hope you are prepared for the legal and civil complications that will follow. The old adage about "I am concealed so no one has to know regardless of permit", works when nothing happens. If that confrontation occurs, you probably go to prison and certainly lose all your life savings etal in a civil case.
Only if you wimp out and allow your Constitutional rights to be infringed on by someone who is breaking their oath as they infringe on them.... ANY attempt at infringing on my 2nd Amendment rights comes with the real, proven danger of losing everything I have ever worked for (AND my life itself) just because of a law-breaking govt..... I take that as a life threatening confrontation and WILL defend myself as if my life depends on it, because my life DOES depend on it....
This is a ridiculous. Just the fact that you getting a gun at 18 which you know is illegal, and that you are too impatient to wait until you are 21 proves that you would have failed the very tests that you need to get your CWP early.
Unfortunately, just because it is a right does not make it legal. It ought to, and I very much hope it changes. I'll help if I can.
This does mean that if you carry in a way deemed illegal, and successfully defend yourself, you'll likely go to jail. If you don't, it'll be after a long and expensive legal battle. This means it is a choice between dead and destitute. While the answer might be obvious to some, for others that's a tough choice. If you have a family that depends on you, especially with young kids, bankruptcy or prison is not going to turn out well.
Hence, I choose the legal option of getting the permission slip. I may not agree with having that hoop to jump through, but I can't afford the risk of breaking the law. Others might be willing to make the sacrifice to stand up for their rights, but my kid shouldn't have to. I'll find legal ways to do it.
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