Blind and carrying a gun....

[whodat2710]

And if you are the one that is taking care of her, YOU get to make that call... NOT the federal government.

I agree, the government tends to throw a blanket over whole groups of people and treats them the same. When anyone else does that it is called racist, sexist or something similar describing discrimination. My answer was to your blanket statement "How dare anyone in this forum say someone should not be able to carry a firearm." and did not address who should be the one to make that call. We're on the same page here, but I am not fond of that many blanket statements.

 

[3gunshooter]

I don't know what it's like to be blind nor do I want to find out. If I was and someone was to break into to my home I would want to defend myself. Has a blind person ever shot anyone in self defense or in any other matter? I have never heard of any case.

 

[K7lvo]

So you think a chamber indicator isn't a beneficial addition to some firearms? So you are in a low light, no light situation... adrenaline pumping because some arse-face just shot at you, you changed mags, and aren't sure if you've racked the slide. You don't want to give away your position by turning on the flashlight, you don't want to rack again for fear of losing a precious round or for making a sound to give away your cover. So you brush your finger over the chamber indicator and you know exactly whether one is chambered or not. Just because CA mandated doesn't mean that it is a bad thing. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and again. Yes, pun intended.

I guess you didn't see the ???

 

[Peggy Reist]

I think after reading some of the arguments for and against, I'd like to change my mind, up to a point. I can see a woman, even completely blind, in an up-close confrontation being able to shoot an attacker. I mean, at that point, you can tell the good guys from the bad guys. And frankly, that's probably her best bet for protection. A knife, no. Taser, probably not. Pepper spray, nah. Calling 911? We all know what they say about that.
I also have watched some videos of blind shooters at ranges where the targets make pinging noises and the shooters are able to hit them, some very well.

 

[Kramer1113]

My friend is a Blind Photographer. He would like to have a gun for protection but his wife is completely against it.
His vision is limited to a pin hole area in one eye. We have been on cruises with them, out to dinner and the mall. You would never know he was blind unless you really watched him.
He has MS. This is what took his vision. I feel he could handle a gun safely, and if he felt he couldn't I believe he would turn it in or over to his wife.
He took his own DL away when he realized he was unfit to drive.

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[davesgospel]

My son is legally blind. But he can make out shapes and shadows. He would not have any trouble hitting a bad guy coming at him, he deserves to be able to protect himself, as much as anyone elsshapes

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[Kennydale]

Ray seems to be able to handle it well !

 

[wolf_fire]

I guess you didn't see the ???

Sorry K7lvo... there are a lot of so-called Patriots in this thread that seem that denying someone their rights is ok, if they think it is ok. I've been a bit steamed in this thread trying to defend the 2A for all of the citizenry. We're cool.

 

[wolf_fire]

Sorry about the second thread on the topic. I am in a very different time zone on deployment and even though the time stamps may not indicate, our two threads were started very close to the same time.

That's cool... there are actually three threads on this.... lol.

It was obvious that none of the OP's could have realized that the others had posted.

 

[dogshawred]

I could not support the idea of someone who is really, totally blind from using a firearm for self defense.
The difference between being legally blind & totally blind should be obvious.
Owning them is another story.

If someone is totally blind and on their own they will have a walking stick to help in guiding them through public places. Most foldable guide sticks are about 5 feet long and would act as a good point of reference if used quite proficiently by a blind person (as they are capable of doing) to locate and direct line of fire for self defense. Blind persons remaining senses become more attuned over time and develop in such a manner than physicians can't really explain what blind people are capable without being able to see.
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Our refusing the blind the ability to carry, is just like the anti's saying that we as gun owners/carriers don't need this or we don't need that just because they personally aren't willing to accept the idea of it.
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We can not and should not ever isolate any group of persons from exercising their rights under the law until they are proven unfit to do so. Gee, I guess you might refer to that kinda like "due process", after all they are entitled to it just like we are entitled.

 

[dogshawred]

My friend is a Blind Photographer. He would like to have a gun for protection but his wife is completely against it.
His vision is limited to a pin hole area in one eye. We have been on cruises with them, out to dinner and the mall. You would never know he was blind unless you really watched him.
He has MS. This is what took his vision. I feel he could handle a gun safely, and if he felt he couldn't I believe he would turn it in or over to his wife.
He took his own DL away when he realized he was unfit to drive.

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Kramer, part of your post rings so true I had to answer.
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People with sever disabilities seem to be better and more willing to acknowledge their limitations and give up something that could harm others, because that is the last thing they would ever want to do.
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It is a shame that the rest of society couldn't be as attuned and understand when they shouldn't be doing stuff that could and will harm others.

 

[Kramer1113]

Kramer, part of your post rings so true I had to answer.
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People with sever disabilities seem to be better and more willing to acknowledge their limitations and give up something that could harm others, because that is the last thing they would ever want to do.
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It is a shame that the rest of society couldn't be as attuned and understand when they shouldn't be doing stuff that could and will harm others.

100% Agree. It was hard for me to digest "Giving up my license". My license is like my gun. Pry it from my cold dead hands. But as you said, He didn't want anyone to get hurt.

 

[Mobuck]

My younger Son is legally blind(vs profoundly blind) meaning he can't read print, drive on the highway, or other "normal activities". Given the right conditions of light and contrast, he can put 6 shots from his S&W K38 fitted with CrimsonTrace grips on a dinner plate @21'. Using a shotgun at a choke point in his apartment, no one would pass even in total darkness(actually this would give him the advantage).
I've spent a lot of time with this visually impaired person and can vouch for the hearing acuity and spatial awareness which at least some blind people have developed.

 

[Spartan]

All people who carry have limitations on how far they should attempt to shoot at a target (legal ramifications aside). For every gun I have which I would carry I know the distance at which I am confident of hitting a 2.5 inch circle and am not likely to take a shot much further than that.
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A visually challenged person has a much shorter confidence range - depending on their level of sight. Even if the range is "contact" that is a valid range to carry a gun for.
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A buddy of mine was instructing indigenous troops on firearms marksmanship and was not given time to properly train on handgun marksmanship - even though handguns were issued. He instructed them to only use handguns when they could put the muzzle against the enemy. So I believe it is a valid method of use.
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I would recommend, in this case, a large bore revolver loaded with heavy, frangible ammo since that would deliver the most energy with the minimum of possbile collateral damage. An automatic might engage the disconnector if pressed against the target.

 

[jg1967]

Well, I probably wouldn't go shooting with them. If I was going to their home, I'd probably call in advance.
Perhaps they've got the right to own a gun, but it sounds like an accident waiting to happen. A potentially fatal accident.

Hahaha, about going shooting with them!

Have mixed feelings about it. On one side they can use all the protection they can get on the other are some serious complications for them in regards to target acquisition.

 

[kelcarry]

Nice to know that the State of Iowa has joined the asylum, formerly known as the USA, with enthusiasm and stupidity.

 

[wolf_fire]

I just thought of something.

Most here regard the issuing of permits or licenses to legally bear our arms to be a slap in the face of our rights. If Iowa didn't grant permission slips, no one would be questioning the state giving a permit to a blind man and that blind man may or may not be carrying when you pass him. However, some of you have cast stones supporting the idea that the state should not grant a blind man a permit.

Let's think about that and realize that the 2nd Amendment is for ALL the citizenry.

 

[Coyote Blue]

Shall not be infringed rules. It's all good,Iowa.