Best weapon for home Self Defense


I think I am ready for all but a full scale invasion and I pray that I will never have to find out. On the floor in the hallway is level 1. His name is Worf and he is a 125# German Shepard. Level 2 is the Beretta PX4 on the nightstand with 17+1 and a full extra mag. Level 3 is the Savage 12 guage in the closet. 00 buckshot. On the shelf next to that is Level 4, Ruger Mini30; 7.62x39 hollow points. The wife and both kids are all crack shots as we practice with all the weapons on a very regular basis. Which brings me to my point. All of the weaponry on the planet does you absolutely zilch if you are not able to use and control it. Can you operate it in your sleep? Can you ready it in the dark? Whether you have a Bersa .380 or a Desert Eagle. 50AE at your bedside, you better be dang sure that you are familiar with it; INTIMATELY FAMILIAR! Nothing scares me more than someone who buys a gun for "home defense", loads it with whatever round the LGS suggested and puts it in the drawer where it collects dust. I routinely PRACTICE with all of my guns on a weekly basis. That might not be practical for all, but, that's what is good for me. As I said, I'm ready and hope that I will never find out how ready.

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AndeyHall said:
I never have been a fan of the shotgun for a primary home defense weapon. Turns and corners being the main reason. Round capacity (for the normal shotgun that is) is my second. I mean when I think about what I want to use (or not use) for home defense, I think about what I would rather the person I'm fighting against to have or not have. I'd rather go up against a shotgun over a pistol any day. If I can sneak up on him around a corner I can probably grab the gun and push it away or hold it away from me. If I can get him to waste 5 or so shots, he probably out (vs 15 or so with some pistols), plus reloading a shotgun is much slower.
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In most instances, simply jacking a round into the chamber of a pump action shotgun is all it takes to send a BG packing.
 
ezkl2230 said:
In most instances, simply jacking a round into the chamber of a pump action shotgun is all it takes to send a BG packing.
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"Failure to a criminal is just rehearsal for success." Don't know where I heard that but it's been in my head ever since. If you do that, there's probably one of 2 possibilities...the first and most likely is what you just described. However there is the possibility that they are armed themselves, and you announcing your presence and the fact that you're armed is going to tell them that the first thing they see they need to shoot at it. If I am going to engage someone in my house with my family there, I want the tactical advantage. I do not want to give them the opportunity to be on alert for guy with a shotgun.

And to be honest I really don't want them running away. Cause most likely they won't get caught if you call the police. So how well would you sleep knowing he could just as easily try again later on your house or someone else's? And next time he might be prepared. Nah once they're in, they're only leaving one of two ways...the best scenario would be if I could subdue them with no shots fired and he has to be escorted away in a patrol car. But there is a possibility he may be escorted out in an ambulance. I hope I never have to revoke someone's birth certificate, but when my home and my family are involved, you gotta do what you gotta do.
 
Right now I seem to have an army of mosquitoes in my house... Does that work? I sure want to get out of here!

Beyond that... I live in a small, well-armed community 45 minutes away from anywhere. I have dogs that will bark during the day (then, of course, they will become Best Friends with the intruder... but at least I'd know they were coming), and an alarm system for at night. Plus a .357 magnum on the nightstand, and as soon as I get a second quick-access safe, a 9 mm downstairs. We have a shotgun, but I don't think I'd wind up using it. The way my house is built I wouldn't be able to stay behind cover with anything other than a handgun.
 
wolf_fire said:
In your own home there is no minimum length, just don't carry it outside or try to use it for hunting. As far as what type of hacksaw... seriously?

And I don't wonder anything about you regarding much of anything especially when your respond with personal mockery rather than add to a thread.

The sawed-off shotgun has proven itself to be an excellent form of home defense for many reasons. If you are unaware of that you could ask for clarification.
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Where do you come up with this stuff? If you shoot an intruder with a shotgun less than the legal limit you now have two problems. Since when does federal law not apply in "your own home"?

I know of no other way to refute foolishness other than to point out it came from a fool. I also feel that I added something to the thread by pointing out that its not good to take advice from someone more lost than you are.

Didn't you say you were going to ignore me a few weeks ago? I guess it's hard for you to keep your word.
 
Rich kid said:
Where do you come up with this stuff? If you shoot an intruder with a shotgun less than the legal limit you now have two problems. Since when does federal law not apply in "your own home"?

I know of no other way to refute foolishness other than to point out it came from a fool. I also feel that I added something to the thread by pointing out that its not good to take advice from someone more lost than you are.

Didn't you say you were going to ignore me a few weeks ago? I guess it's hard for you to keep your word.
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Even if someone is on your ignore list, any reply to a post (even from an ignored person) gets sent to your email. So I got to see your response regardless.

Now, I have answered this in post #35 and #39 if you'd care to go back and actually read the thread, rather than be obsessed with me and my initial response.

A sawed off shotgun is NOT illegal if you get the tax stamp. The sawed off shotgun IMO is still one the best, tried and trued, self defense weapons available. So before you start pointing fingers at who the fool is, do your own research, read the ENTIRE thread and think before you speak.

Just because you say something is foolishness, does not make it so. Read up on how to obtain a weapon such as this... you may actually learn something: Firearms - Frequently Asked Questions - National Firearms Act (NFA) - Short Barreled Rifles and Shotguns | ATF
 
I don't own a shot gun. I have a Ruger SR9C and Sig 1911 Ultra that I carry. When I carry one, the other is in my nightstand ready if needed.
 
wolf_fire said:
Even if someone is on your ignore list, any reply to a post (even from an ignored person) gets sent to your email. So I got to see your response regardless.

Now, I have answered this in post #35 and #39 if you'd care to go back and actually read the thread, rather than be obsessed with me and my initial response.


A sawed off shotgun is NOT illegal if you get the tax stamp. The sawed off shotgun IMO is still one the best, tried and trued, self defense weapons available. So before you start pointing fingers at who the fool is, do your own research, read the ENTIRE thread and think before you speak.

Just because you say something is foolishness, does not make it so. Read up on how to obtain a weapon such as this... you may actually learn something: Firearms - Frequently Asked Questions - National Firearms Act (NFA) - Short Barreled Rifles and Shotguns | ATF
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Your initial statement was that an individual may possess a sawed-off shotgun in their own homes, which is blatantly incorrect. Of course now you have mentioned that a federal transfer stamp is required and even gave a reference. If you thought before you spoke , you would have never made your initial statement.

Now the individual that started this thread appears to be on a limited budget and you think he needs to pay to have his gun modified by an appropriately licensed gunsmith and pay for a transfer stamp. Of course maybe the money he saves by making his own vertical fore-end from an old table leg will help defray some of the expense.

You don't really seem like someone that should be giving advice on any front. In fact you sound like a typical cop with your rather confused initial statement of the law and subsequent attempts to clarify without admitting your initial statement was ludicrous. Maybe we could rig a breathalyzer to your computer to prevent future absurdities.
 
wolf_fire said:
Even if someone is on your ignore list, any reply to a post (even from an ignored person) gets sent to your email. So I got to see your response regardless.

Now, I have answered this in post #35 and #39 if you'd care to go back and actually read the thread, rather than be obsessed with me and my initial response.

A sawed off shotgun is NOT illegal if you get the tax stamp. The sawed off shotgun IMO is still one the best, tried and trued, self defense weapons available. So before you start pointing fingers at who the fool is, do your own research, read the ENTIRE thread and think before you speak.

Just because you say something is foolishness, does not make it so. Read up on how to obtain a weapon such as this... you may actually learn something: Firearms - Frequently Asked Questions - National Firearms Act (NFA) - Short Barreled Rifles and Shotguns | ATF
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You can set up your spam filter to look for the specific term, "Rich kid," and send it directly to trash.
 
ezkl2230 said:
In most instances, simply jacking a round into the chamber of a pump action shotgun is all it takes to send a BG packing.
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While many encounters might end without a single shot being fired, setting that as an expectation is plain dangerous.

You have no way of knowing how an intruder will react and putting any stock in the sound of a round chambering may very well leave you unprepared to act when it has no deterrent effect. ..


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s0nspark said:
While many encounters might end without a single shot being fired, setting that as an expectation is plain dangerous.

You have no way of knowing how an intruder will react and putting any stock in the sound of a round chambering may very well leave you unprepared to act when it has no deterrent effect. ..


d(-.-)b
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Yep, when I took my CWP class our instructor (a local LEO) asked us "Why do I carry a gun?" People answered stuff like "to protect yourself" or "to protect others (family)" or "to defend your home" and stuff like that. He said those are all correct answers, but what is the one thing all those answers have in common? His follow up was "The reason I carry a gun is to shoot another human being."

When you are out in public carrying or at your home or wherever and a situation occurs where you feel you need to draw your gun, you had damn well better have it settled in your mind that you can pull the trigger on whatever it is you may find, granted that it is a justified deadly force situation. If you are counting on certain sounds or gestures to do the "talking" for you rather than having to pull the trigger, then you obviously are not prepared for what is involved in carrying/owning a firearm for self defense.
 
wolf_fire said:
Not a bad idea since it is obvious he is hell-bent on trying to trash me than add to the thread. Thanks ezkl.
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Now if I could just find a way to have your idiotic comments filtered out of the threads, we could all live happily ever after.
 
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