Background checks (poll)

[BluesStringer]

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Obama didn't issue an Executive Order, he compiled a bunch of actions for BATFE to add to its already-bloated list of unconstitutional regulations. You and I and just about everyone with two synapsing brain cells to rub together know that unelected bureaucrats aren't constitutionally authorized to make or pass laws, but Congress and the Supreme Court have already either passed laws giving the Executive such power, or ruled it as constitutional based on those laws' passage by Congress. Executive actions go through the unconstitutional regulatory agencies, and thus cannot be just written out of existence by a new president. That is the most significant difference between executive orders and executive actions.

Bofh found what I believe to be the definitive sussing out of Obama's actions on Tuesday. That link goes to a very detailed 46-minute lecture on exactly what happened.

Since then, the same YouTube'er has pared down that 46-minute lecture to a ~23-minute summary of the first release. From the Comments section on both of those videos, it appears that very few other YouTube'ers are getting it right, which likely means that very few bloggers or posters on fora are getting it right either. So when Trump or anyone else says that the first thing they'll do is rescind Tuesday's executive orders on gun control, if you listen to those videos you'll know without a doubt that they are lying.

As to the general new reality for America that no one wants to acknowledge, and/or thinks we can "fix" by voting in a Republican or reasonable facsimile of same, think again. We are a full dictatorship now. Read this from a friend of mine. It will validate the previous statement. In fact, click on the Title Banner at the top of the page and go to the home page to read the last several blog-posts of his, and the only rational, logical conclusions anyone can come to is that America is dead. None of that stuff in the graphic David posted matters a wit anymore. Americans lack the will, the courage, or the fealty to founding principles to proceed in a manner that would have even a scintilla's chance of moving the line backwards towards constitutionally-compliant governance, and it's for damn sure that there's not enough time left for mankind to move it back the couple of century's worth of usurpations it has been operating under up to this point to begin with.

America is under Judgment. No rant about how constitutional (or not) a given action or new law is, is ever going to change that. Part of His Judgment has already destroyed for this country the bedrock underpinning for human freedom which the Constitution represented for a few short years before tyrants started chipping away at it. The country is already gone. Your only hope as individuals is to look to Him. The last vestige of freedom that human beings will ever possess right up to the moment of their passage from this life is to freely invite Jesus into their hearts. Quit fretting over what's happening to this country because strict scrutiny of reality proves it's already gone. Flaming me for telling you the truth will not change that either, but historical reality proves that fact won't stop some from doing it anyway. Have at it. I'm happy, I'm free as a bird, and I'm safe, and none of that is because of the Constitution, my guns or the fact that I've chosen to live far out in the country where my wife and I will avoid much of the coming strife. It's because I'm happy, free and safe in knowing what's in store for us whether or not the strife comes here, whether or not the floods, earthquakes, pestilence and disease comes here, and whether or not small-minded myrmidons of Satan send their taunts my way.

Blues

 

[Happypuppy]

The video is interesting , but I have no idea of the persons background that made it. Are they a constitutional attorney ? Can a president change a rule with the intent to get around congress?

At this point I have more questions than answers to them.


Someday. That’s a dangerous word. It’s really just a code for ‘never’.

 

[BluesStringer]

The video is interesting , but I have no idea of the persons background that made it. Are they a constitutional attorney ? Can a president change a rule with the intent to get around congress?

At this point I have more questions than answers to them.

The author provides links (in the Description) and on-screen documentation to substantiate every claim she makes. She further implores her viewers/listeners to follow those links and verify what she says for themselves. She also made the second, shorter summary-video because she perceived that too many consumers of the first were bailing on it because of its length, and/or neglecting to read any or all of the material she attempted to direct them to.

Clearly, if you still have questions, it is not the fault of the YouTube'er or of her "background." Her background would not be at issue if you used the material she freely gave you to do a tiny bit of your own reading that all originates from government websites clearly explaining the law as it applies to Obama's executive actions of Tuesday, 1/5/16.

Blues

 

[Wild Dog]

As far as I'm concerned, the only background check one needs to do is a handshake. You tell the measure of a man by the way he shakes your hand.

 

[Stengun]

Howdy WD,

As far as I'm concerned, the only background check one needs to do is a handshake. You tell the measure of a man by the way he shakes your hand.

Gee, didn't your mom tell you to NEVER talk to strangers?

Paul

 

[SR9]

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"Also at the last gun show that I attended in Little Rock there were several non-white males that were having white females purchase handguns for them. "


When someone gets another person to buy a gun for them, it is called a "straw purchase", which is already as illegal as hell.

 

[SR9]

According to an article I read the other day, there is such a thing as a Presidential Executive Order, and then there is an Executive Action. The difference is small. But I am under the understanding that The Executive order is a written document issue by the President and is used to make a "law change", where as a Executive Action is not written and cannot be taken to court. There have been times that an Executive Order has been issued by Obama and other Presidents and they have been taken to the SCOTUS and reversed by that court on the basis of the written document being denied by the court. If you check the Whitehouse.gov site, you will find there is no written copy of the "Obama Gun Ban" listed in the Executive Order section. It is more under the section of press releases. I have never been able to find a written copy of text of a Presidential Executive Order on Gun Control as my refer to it as. If any one can find it please attach it to your post.
The reason it is not a written Executive Order is so it cannot be challenged in the SCOTUS, making it almost impossible to defeat. Link Removed

 

[bofh]

According to an article I read the other day, there is such a thing as a Presidential Executive Order, and then there is an Executive Action. The difference is small. But I am under the understanding that The Executive order is a written document issue by the President and is used to make a "law change", where as a Executive Action is not written and cannot be taken to court. There have been times that an Executive Order has been issued by Obama and other Presidents and they have been taken to the SCOTUS and reversed by that court on the basis of the written document being denied by the court. If you check the Whitehouse.gov site, you will find there is no written copy of the "Obama Gun Ban" listed in the Executive Order section. It is more under the section of press releases. I have never been able to find a written copy of text of a Presidential Executive Order on Gun Control as my refer to it as. If any one can find it please attach it to your post.
The reason it is not a written Executive Order is so it cannot be challenged in the SCOTUS, making it almost impossible to defeat. Link Removed

I guess someone needed to have an excuse for taking 6 days to realize what the President did and didn't do. So, now Executive Actions are more dangerous than Executive Orders, because they can't be challenged in court? BS. You can challenge pretty much anything in court if you have a case. The fact is that the President made a lot of theater around a press conference in which he announced a few rule changes that were put into action in 2013 and have been finalized now, and a lot of proposals that require congressional approval or need to go through the same rule change process and won't go into affect until a new administration is in place. Using weeks of propaganda in the run up to this press conference, the President has performed a magic show that convinced anti-gun and pro-gun groups that he has actually done the big gun grab that he has promised for so long. See this thread for details: http://www.usacarry.com/forums/politics-and-news/53900-what-actually-happened-week.html. The laws on background checks and their implementation have not changed.