riffmaker states he can carry all the time with a restricted ccw. i ask if he was rite or wrong . i need a yes or no answer.
you said you carry 99% of the time.what changed now.do you fish and hike eveyday.
I went to our company attorney at PPA looking for an answer on this issue. As a former NYC DA he's well versed in this area. His response... you need to understand that the law is not black and white on any issue. There is no yes or no answer to your question. It is open to interpretation. Is he breaking the law at Walmart? NO!! He cannot be arrested. But since NY is a discretionary state a judge can revoke or suspend at will citing any number of things as just cause. Some liberal judges in discretionary states are itching for a reason to pull a permit. Others would warn him while still others would throw the issue out of their courtroom.how rong yuo are. i dont want to argue i just want a straight anwser. this is the first time ive heard from you and your calling me names.so who is that wants to argue.and i still dont have a yes or no answer
are you saying his restricted permit is equal to mine.how is it sportsman like if he goes to walmart at 11pm.there is a yes or no answer you just dont want to say it, so i will. heres the bottom line.if he carries out side hie restriction and the judge finds out.his license can be revoked you know it and i know it.and if thats the case that means its wrong.and if you cant admit to it your a bad instructor.nyc laws are different from nys.
Armed-an-ready. You must be young. For many years, and up until 2008 in some counties, New York permits were a 4"X6" PAPER permit with a passport photo glued to it. It said "RESTRICTED" on the front and the list of restrictions was on the back. It wasn't a credit card size as today's permits are. It had to be folded to fit in your wallet. This guy trimmed the permit, cutting off the word "RESTRICTED" at the top center of the paper. When he presented the permit to the county clerk's office the CSR immediately noticed the permit had been trimmed. Until 2007 you would receive instructions with your permit that forbid altering, cutting or laminating it. If you fell-in while fishing you had to get a replacement permit as the ink would run. The PAPER permits eventually ripped and became frayed.now i know your bogus.whenyou get a gun ammended they take the old license and give you a new one.why would he trim it .its the same size as your driving license.did he trim that too.maybe all this happens in bogusville[where your from]why not stick to the point i didnt ask about a buisness man or bending over.and the answer is no riffmakers restricted license is not the same as mine.im begining to think you and riffmaker are the same.if it was the same he would be able to get a non resedency permit but he cant. why why ill tell you why because its restricted.you should leave this site because you have no interest only to advertise . does the b in you name stand for bogus
Armed-an-ready. You must be young. For many years, and up until 2008 in some counties, New York permits were a 4"X6" PAPER permit with a passport photo glued to it. It said "RESTRICTED" on the front and the list of restrictions was on the back. It wasn't a credit card size as today's permits are. It had to be folded to fit in your wallet. This guy trimmed the permit, cutting off the word "RESTRICTED" at the top center of the paper. When he presented the permit to the county clerk's office the CSR immediately noticed the permit had been trimmed. Until 2007 you would receive instructions with your permit that forbid altering, cutting or laminating it. If you fell-in while fishing you had to get a replacement permit as the ink would run. The PAPER permits eventually ripped and became frayed.
Get a grip son. The accusatory nature is unbecoming. Bogus? Son, I was teaching military and police SWAT teams when you were still popping zits. Those of us in the business are scratching our heads reading these posts. Perhaps you should attend one of my lectures on Articles 35, 265 and 400 of the NY Penal Law. I'm of the mindset that those with a high degree of ignorance should be denied a permit as they're bound to make poor decisions. These continued responses only reinforce my opinion.
JimPage... sorry, I just had to. Couldn't sit back quietly anymore. :no:
BC Out.
Your friend was very lucky, he was unable to properly conceal the weapon and that could of been a menacing charge which could of permantly ended his pistol license.If the woman called 911 it would of created a problem for your friend who would be getting his pistol license yanked.I've only Known of one time that someone (Friend of Mine) was caught carrying outside his Restricted Permit. It was on Nov 26,2009 The only reason I remember the date is because my Son, Shot his first Buck. Later that evening My Fiend and I went out for dinner. I gave him a set of clothes to wear instead of hunting clothes. Before we went to eat, we stopped @ Dicks Sporting goods to Purchase some Ammo. My Friend was bending over looking at Ammo and, I noticed some lady Starring at his Exsposed Handgun. I honestly thought nothing of it and went about my Business. After I paid for Ammo we Headed out the Doors. Thats where it all went down. I noticed that same lady Talking to Leo's and she pointed our way. The Officer Called us over to his squad car, The officer asked my friend if he was Carrying and, If he had a Permit he said yes to both. From There the Officer asked to see his Permit and ID.After he examined his credentials The officer said that he noticed his permit was for Target & Hunting only we explained our Adventures for that day The whole time the Officer acted like he was our Life long friend. very professional. The officer turned to me and said, I presume you are armed as well. I said yes, he asked to see my permit. I complied he asked how come I have Unrerstricted and my friend did'nt. I explained that I have had my Permit for about 8 years. In the end the Officer advised us to have a great evening and too enjoy our dinner. So I think when it comes to carrying outside of your restrictions.First and, Fore most It depends on the Leo. 2nd it depends on where you are and, what you are doing. I think if we had been in a Bar Things would of played out a little different. I 've asked this question to many Leo's and it seems, I get the same responce. It all depends where & what you are doiing at the time of Contact. hope this helps
Article 35 of the NYS Penal Law provides for "defense of justification" when using force or deadly force. Your right to sel defense would not be altered by the possession of the gun outside of restrictions. The matter would be handled in two areas.What if you are carrying outside your restrictions and you are forced to draw and use your weapon to stop a threat to your life? What would be the consequences, assuming you were determined to be 100% justified by authorities in using lethal force?
After reading the thread, I would assume that
A: Your permit could be revoked or suspended
B: You could be charged with menacing
C: Nothing at all
I would assume that LEOs would not worry about it since you used it to save your life and possibly the lives of others, but you never know. Do I assume too much of our authorities?
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