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Tucker's Mom

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I don't know whether to laugh or cry...this is SO true...



If you've never been to St. Louis, consider this your Visitor's Guide to driving in St. Louis.




1. There are 75 "unofficial neighborhoods" in the City of St. Louis. St. Louisans commonly give directions--especially for restaurants--to strangers based on these neighborhoods, which aren't marked on any maps that are handed out by the tourist board, the AAA or Mapquest.

2. There are 54 school districts--on the Missouri side alone--each of which has their own school bus system with scheduled times to block traffic.

3. There are 91 official municipalities in St. Louis County . Each municipality has its own rules and regulations, and often their own police departments.

4. More importantly, most have their own snow removal contracts so it's not uncommon to drive down a road in winter and have one block plowed, the next salted, the next piled with snow and the last partially cleared by residents wanting to get out of their driveways.

5. Snow plowing is never a problem in the City of St. Louis . They plow nothing, and if the forecast calls for snow, they close everything. Except on "The Hill" (refer to #1 above) where each homeowner goes out to the street and shovels out one car-sized rectangle and then stands watch over it.

6. Any car parked longer than 4 hours in the city is considered a parts store.

7. The City of Ballwin actually proposed that drivers use connecting strip mall parking lots to get from place to place rather than drive on Manchester road to cut the traffic on Manchester. (And for good reason. There is a stoplight at every intersection on Manchester).

8. Laclede Station Road , McCausland, Lindbergh , Watson , Reavis, Barracks, Fee Fee, McKnight, Airport Road , Midland , McKelvey, and Olive mysteriously change names as you cross intersections.

9. Gravois Road, Spoede and Chouteau can only be pronounced by St. Louis natives. (Highway 40 as is pronounced as "farty".)

10. A St. Louisan from South County has never been to North County and vice versa. West County just has everything delivered.

11. No native St. Louisan knows that Lindbergh runs from South County to North County . And if you tell them, they will not believe you.

12. Lindbergh belongs to every neighborhood except Kirkwood , who had the nerve to creatively change the name to Kirkwood Road". (Which may be the reason for number 11.)

13. There are 2 interchanges to exit from Highway 40 onto Clayton Road and 2 for Big Bend. Stay alert, people!

14. If you need directions to O'Fallon , make sure to specify Illinois or Missouri . This is also true for Troy , Maryville , St. Charles , Springfield and Columbia .

15. The Page Avenue extension and Airport expansion projects took over 20 years to get approved. St. Louisans lost track of how many political figures claimed them as their own ideas.

16. St. Louisans were aghast when the federal government required them to redo the highway signs to indicate that the federal highways went to cities in other states instead of local municipalities.

17. Drivers are starting to cut their OWN plates rather than go through the Missouri Department of Motor Vehicles to get new tags. You can also purchase tags from dealers behind Quick Shops in the city. They are cheaper, the clerks are nicer, and the service is faster.

18. Lambert Field and St. Louis International Airport really are the same place. The East Terminal, however, is a different place.

19. Highway 270 is our daily version of the NASCAR circuit.

20. You can go all four directions on Highway 270: North and South in West County , East and West in South County , and East and West in North County. Confused? So are St. Louis drivers.

21. The outer belt is Highway 270 which turns into Highway 255 in South County . The inner belt is Highway 170. Highway 370 is an outer-outer belt. Highway 40 is the same as Interstate 64 (but only through the middle part of St. Louis ). If you are listening to traffic reports and they are calling it 64, the traffic jam is in Illinois . If they are calling it 40, the traffic jam is in Missouri.

22. The morning rush hour is from 6:00 to 10:00 AM. The evening rush hour is from 3:00 to 7:00 PM. Friday's rush hour starts Thursday morning.

23. Never ever try to cross a bridge in St. Louis during rush hour unless you have a sack lunch and a port-a-potty in the car.

24. "Yield" signs are for decoration only. No native St. Louisan will ever grasp the concept. (Actually, the drivers who are supposed to yield will not, and the drivers who are not supposed to yield will wait politely for the ones who are supposed to yield, so it all works out.)

25. If someone actually has their turn signal on, it is probably a factory defect, or has been on for the last 17 miles.

26. Construction on Highways 40, 64, 70, 255, 270, 44, 55 and 170 is a way of life, and a permanent form of entertainment.

27. All blue-haired old ladies in Cadillacs driving on Olive west of 270 have the right of way.

28. If it snows or rains, stay home!!!!!!!!!!!!

29. It is called a rolling stop at any stop sign intersection. Only native St. Louisans can do it just right.

30. In West County, 20 cars will go through a yellow light. Longest yellow lights I have ever seen. If you slow or stop on a yellow light, you will get rear-ended or someone will angrily sound their horn at you.
 

I used to live there. If you must visit, stay one night, go up in the arch and see the City Museum, then leave. It's a sad old city with a few cool places to see. Don't walk around at night.
 
I used to live there. If you must visit, stay one night, go up in the arch and see the City Museum, then leave. It's a sad old city with a few cool places to see. Don't walk around at night.
You make it sound like it is a very bad place. I am sadden by that. There are some good places here in St. Louis. In fact, my husband and I have lately been organizing our biggest annual flying convention here in St. Louis (not the city, but at Creve Coeur airport) and we are expecting around 160 Swift airplanes to come from all over the country. With more than 3 months away, I already have three Hilton hotel groups at Westport that are almost fully booked for our convention. I do not expect our visitors to be driving around St. Louis be it during the day or night. We have hired vans for to take them to tours from Augusta to Branson for our 4 day convention.

My post is a joke though there is a lot of truth in it. It is not meant to scare people away from us. Which city do you think is perfect, where you live? You did not even fill up your profile to show us. I am sorry but I think your post is very mean.
 
Guy that works on my boat is from granite city. Speaks highly of st Louis just not east stl. I am there often when I'm at work.
 
I like St. Louis with all its complications though I have never been to many parts of its. The first time I was able to see any real thing here was 5 years after I was already living here. I already have my first gun when I was really able to go to the city...or something like that. I can tell you that while there are some really nice high falluting place in Kommifornia, I like where we live at the moment...St. Charles is nice too though they are unresponsive to our pleas to help us with tourism issues. I guess I have only been to the good parts. Haven't been to the East...
 
Thank you for the laugh. Born and raised there for 32 years. Now I live in Western New York.
You forgot to mention your steering wheel burning the skin off your hands in the summer.
After living in NY for the past 28 years I have lost my tolerance for the heat.
Still go back every year but now tend to stay inside more.
My siblings and I marvel at how we grew up without air conditioning.
Looking back St Louis has a little of both Southern and Northern attributes.
People are more polite and genteel than New Yorkers but walk faster than Southerners.
 
Thank you for the laugh. Born and raised there for 32 years. Now I live in Western New York.
You forgot to mention your steering wheel burning the skin off your hands in the summer.
After living in NY for the past 28 years I have lost my tolerance for the heat.
Still go back every year but now tend to stay inside more.
My siblings and I marvel at how we grew up without air conditioning.
Looking back St Louis has a little of both Southern and Northern attributes.
People are more polite and genteel than New Yorkers but walk faster than Southerners.
Thank you for your post. I think people here are more friendlier too than NY or Kommiefornia. Though I will not exchange the friendliness of the Australians. They are tops! I have to learn a lot more about Americans. I'm a go out for a shoot (pictures) person then come back to my house to post process it kind of thing. But I love St. Louis with all its complications. You must still have some relatives living here...
 
I currently live in Billings, MT. Spent the last four years in St. Louis. We lived in Eureka but I had work all over the area so I have really seen every part of it. I grew up in Dallas, lived in San Antonio and Houston and Providence, RI. I have been to most major cities in the US and Europe.

I liked everyone I met in St. Louis and stay in contact with many of them. Very nice people and will kindly engage out of towners. STL has been dealt some rough blows since it's heydays between the world fair and the 1950's. All the places you mention are suburbs and not St. Louis City. Most floks in those burbs only come to town for a Cards, Rams, Blues games or to work.

I found the business climate a "sh!t in your own lunchbucket" mentality because they are averse to new ideas or anyone who did not go to high school there. I had an out of work union welder tell me that he could not work in a 3 week youth training program where I was going to pay him $1000/wk to teach local youths how to weld well enough to make benches and trash receptacles for a city project because if the union caught him teaching a non-union person how to weld they could fine him $10K out of his pension. Now I'm not union bashing as my father is a retired firefighter and former union president in a much more progressive city. But much of that type of stuff I saw regularly from woodworkers to electricians is slowing progress.

So I'm not trying to be mean but trying to give folks some realistic expectations about a week in St. Louis. If anyone would like, I can tell you some very cool local places to go eat and play that will get you out of the tourist spots and away from the suburban strip malls.

I hope your fly in convention goes well and I wish you the very best.
 
Thank you for the good wishes. I believe you are right about us here not moving forward so much. We out of towners are a bit old fashion-ist. My husband is one. Him and his cahoots do not welcome change so much. People here where we live are very friendly but a little bit of an isolation-ist for their own reasons. As I have already said it took me 5 years of living here before I even see the Gateway Arch. Before that, I didn't even know it exists. I guess I live in own little world too at the time. Now I am writing about the city in our national newsletter like I know it as like the back of my hand. NOT! Only because I have to visit it so I know what I am talking about...and read a little about its history.

Anyway, thank you for being positive about St. Louis. I had learned a lot. There are also quite a few members here from Missouri that I like very much even if we only go by usernames. And by the way, I have been to Billings, MT many times in the past. It was our summer playground somewhere in my past. Too cold for me in other seasons though... :sarcastic:
 
That's a funny list mom.:lol:
#7 will apply to me in a couple of weeks as my wife and I will be in Ballwin for a couple of days. I'll keep my eyes peeled!
 
You pretty much nailed it. I have lived all over the world. St. Louis is really no different than anywhere else as far as I am concerned. As long as you are aware of your surroundings, you will be safe...especially if you are carrying.
 
Creve Coeur = Lake of Tears? or something.

Bleeding Heart, I believe. Just saw this post and had to chuckle a bit as I was born, raised and still live in the city. It's always interesting filling out forms as St. Louis in not in any county, but the surrounding one is called St. Louis county. Tax people gotta love this.
 
Have been to the Loo many times since our son and family moved to O'Fallon. But I have never seen anything that I would trade our very rural area for. God bless the boonies of MO.
 
25. If someone actually has their turn signal on, it is probably a factory defect, or has been on for the last 17 miles.

As a native of STL I got transferred to NYC back in the 80s.
Spent a lot of time in New Jersey.
I had some Native NJ'ers in the car I was driving and I turned on my blinker.
One of them said. Ahhh I wouldn't use my blinker to change lanes around here.
Why not? I asked.
You have NY Plates and if you use your blinker you give the guy's behind you time to figure out how to screw you over and you will be in this lane forever.
I laughed, and turned off my blinker.
 
I grew up and lived in St.Louis for years. I left in 1988 and after reading this it appears nothing has changed since I left! Thanks for the morning chuckle.
 

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