Hide Your Gun In Plain Sight

[Ringo]

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[Hatchetman]

Nice, havent seen this one before.

 

[Blueshell]

This is how kids get access to guns. Keep it on your person or in a locked safe.

 

[Hatchetman]

This is how kids get access to guns. Keep it on your person or in a locked safe.

This is how FUDS get our rights taken away from us because they side with liberals and safety nazis.... (and they havent a clue what RIGHTS are)


Exercise your RIGHTS the way YOU SEE FIT, not how others want you to.....


I dont try to tell YOU how to exercise your first amendment rights, dont try to tell me how to exercise my 2nd amendment rights....

 

[bofh]

I do like some of the tacticalwalls.com products. This one is less useful. The tissue box is right on top of the gun and the wooden-painted plastic box doesn't have a locking mechanism. I have on numerous occasions removed the plastic box cover with the tissue box attached in hotels when grabbing a tissue.

Preventing unauthorized access to your firearms has nothing to do with FUDS, safety nazis or liberals. It has to do with common sense, which the lack thereof gets people killed: 7-Year-Old Boy Dead After Accidentally Shot in Head in Crossville, or purse carry makes no sense if you leave the purse in your car with your 4 kids.

 

[Hatchetman]

Preventing unauthorized access to your firearms has nothing to do with FUDS, safety nazis or liberals. It has to do with common sense, which the lack thereof gets people killed: 7-Year-Old Boy Dead After Accidentally Shot in Head in Crossville, or purse carry makes no sense if you leave the purse in your car with your 4 kids.

Nope, has EVERYTHING with YOU trying to tell me how to keep MY PROPERTY the way YOU WANT ME TO... and you dont have any permission whatsoever to try and tell me how to conduct myself, or HOW to store MY PROPERTY.... YOU SIR, ARE A 100% FUD NAZI who hasnt a clue what RIGHTS are.... They are NOT whatever you or the safety nazis want..... they are MINE (and other sane people unlike yourself) to do with as I want UNTIL they ACTUALLY DO INFRINGE on someone elses rights......

 

[bofh]

I do like some of the tacticalwalls.com products. This one is less useful. The tissue box is right on top of the gun and the wooden-painted plastic box doesn't have a locking mechanism. I have on numerous occasions removed the plastic box cover with the tissue box attached in hotels when grabbing a tissue.

Preventing unauthorized access to your firearms has nothing to do with FUDS, safety nazis or liberals. It has to do with common sense, which the lack thereof gets people killed: 7-Year-Old Boy Dead After Accidentally Shot in Head in Crossville, or purse carry makes no sense if you leave the purse in your car with your 4 kids.

Nope, has EVERYTHING with YOU trying to tell me how to keep MY PROPERTY the way YOU WANT ME TO... and you dont have any permission whatsoever to try and tell me how to conduct myself, or HOW to store MY PROPERTY.... YOU SIR, ARE A 100% FUD NAZI who hasnt a clue what RIGHTS are.... They are NOT whatever you or the safety nazis want..... they are MINE (and other sane people unlike yourself) to do with as I want UNTIL they ACTUALLY DO INFRINGE on someone elses rights......

Blueshell and I have merely posted our OPINION, so did you. We are still allowed to have our own opinion and to post it publicly, do we? Neither I or Blueshell infringed upon your rights. You are free to behave stupidly and we are free to call out stupid behavior. However, you are telling me that merely posting an opinion somehow infringes upon your rights. It seems to me that you have a problem with other people's free speech. I have every right trying to tell you how to conduct yourself. I have no right to force you to. You don't seem to grasp the difference between a discussion about people doing stupid things and a government overreach of preventing people from doing stupid things by enacting nanny-state laws. Again, you are free to do with your property whatever you want. However, we are also free to call out those people that do stupid things.

As a side note. You don't know me, my family or my history, so don't accuse me of anything that you can't back up with facts. You just sound stupid, especially considering my other posts in this forum.

 

[Wild Dog]

Nope, has EVERYTHING with YOU trying to tell me how to keep MY PROPERTY the way YOU WANT ME TO... and you dont have any permission whatsoever to try and tell me how to conduct myself, or HOW to store MY PROPERTY.... YOU SIR, ARE A 100% FUD NAZI who hasnt a clue what RIGHTS are.... They are NOT whatever you or the safety nazis want..... they are MINE (and other sane people unlike yourself) to do with as I want UNTIL they ACTUALLY DO INFRINGE on someone elses rights......

Amen, brother, a-freakin'-men. Children playing with my guns or a crackhead breaking into my home and stealing them is a small price to pay to prevent anyone from telling me how to store them. And to Blueshell, suck it!!! You haven't the first clue what you're talking about.

 

[Blueshell]

This is how FUDS get our rights taken away from us because they side with liberals and safety nazis.... (and they havent a clue what RIGHTS are)


Exercise your RIGHTS the way YOU SEE FIT, not how others want you to.....


I dont try to tell YOU how to exercise your first amendment rights, dont try to tell me how to exercise my 2nd amendment rights....

So you think I side with liberals because the Army taught me to maintain 'posative control' of my scencitive items.

You're a wierd one.

 

[sdprof]

So you think I side with liberals because the Army taught me to maintain 'posative control' of my scencitive items.

You're a wierd one.

Is that the same Army that uses comic books as training guides?

Spell check, man, use spell check! I can't take anyone seriously that doesn't at least attempt to communicate clearly.

To the topic, it depends on your situation. I have no kids, no kids ever are in my house. Something like the tissue box might work for me, if it held together well.

 

[Blueshell]

To the topic, it depends on your situation. I have no kids, no kids ever are in my house. Something like the tissue box might work for me, if it held together well.

You don't have to 'have kids' for a kid to get your gun.

 

[BluesStringer]

You don't have to 'have kids' for a kid to get your gun.

How the heck does that work? My wife and I don't have kids either. Haven't had a child in our home for at least 10 years, and have never had an unsupervised-by-their-parent child in our home(s).

I have a safe and lock everything up if we leave the house, which is exceedingly rare anymore, but how do you imagine that a kid is going to get my guns when we don't have any and none ever visit?

 

[Blueshell]

How the heck does that work?

Well, I hear tell that some people have "friends", and some of those have kids. Some people have "family" and some of those members are kids. A contractor could bring his son to work during the summer, a charity could be doing work for you...there's all sorts of ways.

And then there's adult 'prohibited persons' as well. Many families have felons, violent people, or merly irresponsible people.

My wife and I don't have kids either. Haven't had a child in our home for at least 10 years, and have never had an unsupervised-by-their-parent child in our home(s).

I have a safe and lock everything up if we leave the house, which is exceedingly rare anymore, but how do you imagine that a kid is going to get my guns when we don't have any and none ever visit?

Oh, this product is only marketed to you? OP didn't make that clear.

 

[Blueshell]

Nope, has EVERYTHING with YOU trying to tell me how to keep MY PROPERTY the way YOU WANT ME TO... and you dont have any permission whatsoever to try and tell me how to conduct myself, or HOW to store MY PROPERTY.... YOU SIR, ARE A 100% FUD NAZI who hasnt a clue what RIGHTS are.... They are NOT whatever you or the safety nazis want..... they are MINE (and other sane people unlike yourself) to do with as I want UNTIL they ACTUALLY DO INFRINGE on someone elses rights......

"Shal not be infringed" means any limitation has to comply with the rules, and since RTKB is a spicificaly enumerated right, SCOTUS sets the rubric at Strict Scrutiny.

A regulation requireing posative control over your weapons meets the requirement for a state to have a 'compelling interest' in you doing so. All it comes down to then is the exact wording of a spicific Bill or Act to ensure the limitation is as narrowly tailored as possible to fulfill that compelling interest.

Either keep your gun on you or lock it. Anything else invites tragedy.

 

[Hatchetman]

"Shal not be infringed" means any limitation has to comply with the rules, and since RTKB is a spicificaly enumerated right, SCOTUS sets the rubric at Strict Scrutiny.

A regulation requireing posative control over your weapons meets the requirement for a state to have a 'compelling interest' in you doing so. All it comes down to then is the exact wording of a spicific Bill or Act to ensure the limitation is as narrowly tailored as possible to fulfill that compelling interest.

Either keep your gun on you or lock it. Anything else invites tragedy.

Thank you very much for PROVING you havent a darn clue about RIGHTS...... Heres a hint: Shall not be infringed MEANS EXACTLY WHAT IT SAYS. The govt (any of them) has zero, zilch, nada, power to say anything whatsoever about "arms" yet here you go accepting, and even promoting INFRINGEMENTS!

 

[Hatchetman]

Blueshell and I have merely posted our OPINION, so did you. We are still allowed to have our own opinion and to post it publicly, do we? Neither I or Blueshell infringed upon your rights. You are free to behave stupidly and we are free to call out stupid behavior. However, you are telling me that merely posting an opinion somehow infringes upon your rights. It seems to me that you have a problem with other people's free speech. I have every right trying to tell you how to conduct yourself. I have no right to force you to. You don't seem to grasp the difference between a discussion about people doing stupid things and a government overreach of preventing people from doing stupid things by enacting nanny-state laws. Again, you are free to do with your property whatever you want. However, we are also free to call out those people that do stupid things.

As a side note. You don't know me, my family or my history, so don't accuse me of anything that you can't back up with facts. You just sound stupid, especially considering my other posts in this forum.

I have all the facts I need to back up everything I said, and it is YOUR OWN WORDS...... YOU
advocate having laws telling me HOW to exercise MY RIGHTS... YOU ridicule MY CHOICES while my choices have never harmed anyone, and YOU WANT me to be confined into YOUR LITTLE LIBERAL VIEW of how things aught to be done. YOU side with those who are anti-gun while claiming to be pro-gun.... YOU are WORSE than an antigun liberal, YOU ARE A FUD who hasent a darn clue about rights, and YOUR VIEWS and posting them on forums like this ARE PART OF THE REASON WE HAVE LOST SOME OF OUR RIGHTS! So, in FACT, YOU HAVE infringed on my RIGHTS....

 

[Blueshell]

Thank you very much for PROVING you havent a darn clue about RIGHTS...... Heres a hint: Shall not be infringed MEANS EXACTLY WHAT IT SAYS.

An infringement is a limitation that doesn't obay the rules. If a limitation follows the rules, Strict Scrutiny in this case, that limitation is not an infringement.

The govt (any of them) has zero, zilch, nada, power to say anything whatsoever about "arms" yet here you go accepting, and even promoting INFRINGEMENTS!

The 2nd Amendment only applies to the Federal government. States can impose their own limitations short of an outright ban unles the spicific state has it's own second amendment. The People's Republic of Kalifornia, for example, has no such amendment in it's state constitution, and that's how their many limitations are constitutional.

 

[Bikenut]

An infringement is a limitation that doesn't obay the rules. If a limitation follows the rules, Strict Scrutiny in this case, that limitation is not an infringement.


The 2nd Amendment only applies to the Federal government. States can impose their own limitations short of an outright ban unles the spicific state has it's own second amendment. The People's Republic of Kalifornia, for example, has no such amendment in it's state constitution, and that's how their many limitations are constitutional.

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in·fringe·ment (ĭn-frĭnj′mənt)
n.
1. A violation, as of a law, regulation, or agreement.
2. An encroachment, as of a right or privilege: copyright infringement. See Synonyms at breach.

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en·croach (ĕn-krōch′)
intr.v. en·croached, en·croach·ing, en·croach·es
1. To take another's possessions or rights gradually or stealthily: encroach on a neighbor's land.
2. To advance beyond proper or former limits: desert encroaching upon grassland.
3. Football To commit encroachment.

So the laws/rules that take away another person's possessions (seizure of guns?) or rights (limits who, when, where, why, how, and with what a person is allowed pay attention to that word "allowed" because the word itself means some authority - Federal, State, Local- is limiting/infringing by deciding who/what/where/why/how/when/and who!! is NOT allowed... to keep and bear arms are in and of themselves.... infringements.

Just because someone personally agrees with how/when/where/why/with what other people should/should not be ... allowed... doesn't mean the allowing/not allowing isn't an encroachment/infringement upon a right.

I personally think any and all politicians should be required to get a license to speak and have that license restricted to only telling the truth. Any politician that lies would be in violation of that license and subject to prosecution, sanctions, perhaps jail time and having their mouth sewed shut. But that is my personal opinion and implementing it would be an encroachment... and an infringement... upon a politician's right to free speech.

See how that works?

 

[Blueshell]

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in·fringe·ment (ĭn-frĭnj′mənt)
n.
1. A violation, as of a law, regulation, or agreement.
2. An encroachment, as of a right or privilege: copyright infringement. See Synonyms at breach.

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en·croach (ĕn-krōch′)
intr.v. en·croached, en·croach·ing, en·croach·es
1. To take another's possessions or rights gradually or stealthily: encroach on a neighbor's land.
2. To advance beyond proper or former limits: desert encroaching upon grassland.
3. Football To commit encroachment.

So the laws/rules that take away another person's possessions (seizure of guns?) or rights (limits who, when, where, why, how, and with what a person is allowed pay attention to that word "allowed" because the word itself means some authority - Federal, State, Local- is limiting/infringing by deciding who/what/where/why/how/when/and who!! is NOT allowed... to keep and bear arms are in and of themselves.... infringements.

Just because someone personally agrees with how/when/where/why/with what other people should/should not be ... allowed... doesn't mean the allowing/not allowing isn't an encroachment/infringement upon a right.

I personally think any and all politicians should be required to get a license to speak and have that license restricted to only telling the truth. Any politician that lies would be in violation of that license and subject to prosecution, sanctions, perhaps jail time and having their mouth sewed shut. But that is my personal opinion and implementing it would be an encroachment... and an infringement... upon a politician's right to free speech.

See how that works?

You quote the very definitions that back up my argument.

 

[Hatchetman]

An infringement is a limitation that doesn't obay the rules. If a limitation follows the rules, Strict Scrutiny in this case, that limitation is not an infringement.


The 2nd Amendment only applies to the Federal government. States can impose their own limitations short of an outright ban unles the spicific state has it's own second amendment. The People's Republic of Kalifornia, for example, has no such amendment in it's state constitution, and that's how their many limitations are constitutional.

WOW, you really like to prove your ignorance dont you? You also like to prove how you cannot spell.... or think, or...........