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It's called "if, then, else" logic. You made the statement above so it stands. Without proof you believe no creator exists. Very simple. Ever do any logic programming?
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If
there were proof of a creator​
then
I believe​
else
I don't believe​

That does not address the false accusation that I want proof of a creator.
 
We are all proof of creation by our biological parents (and theirs...) as shaped by evolution. Nothing more. (Foregoing subject to revision if and when cloning and laboratory biosynthesis become reality).
And going backward which came first? Someone was created from something other than another man/woman. We didn't exist forever. Apes didn't exist forever. And for the big prize... who were the parents of the first single celled organism that asexually (without male/female reproduction) reproduced to become two single-celled organisms? Was that in fact a rib from Adam to make Eve?
 
Do we agree that the architect won't be found in the material he has used or be a part of the house that is built?
 
Then you have confirmed my statement. It stands. Without proof you don't believe in a creator. Well, you're here. So someone or something created you. Be it God or nature... you were created.

You can't see air, but you believe you can breath it. If you think man is able to do anything, let me see a man create and rose, I'm not talking about planting a rose bush, I mean create a rose, exactly like a rose as we know it. Same material, texture, smell, molecular structure. Create it from nothing. God can and did.
 
You can't see air, but you believe you can breath it. If you think man I able to do anything, let me see a man create and rose, I'm not talking about planting a rose bush, I mean create a rose, exactly like a rose as we know it. Same material, texture, smell, molecular structure. Create it from nothing. god can and did.

Just because man can't create a rose, it doesn't prove the existence of god. Let's see god create a pickup truck, or an ice cream cone.
 
You can't see air, but you believe you can breath it. If you think man I able to do anything, let me see a man create and rose, I'm not talking about planting a rose bush, I mean create a rose, exactly like a rose as we know it. Same material, texture, smell, molecular structure. Create it from nothing. god can and did.

I challenge any god to do the same. Every rose I've ever seen came off of a rose bush, none hand-made by any god.
 
Just because man can't create a rose, it doesn't prove the existence of god. Let's see god create a pickup truck, or an ice cream cone.


God created all the ingredients in the materials that are in a pickup truck and the people that assembled it. Same for ice cream and roses.
 
"through a combination of environmental factors

and maybe

radiation of...

some sort

from space, came to life as a primitive single-cell form and started dividing.

After that, evolution took over"
From post#301



Easy...Everyone has their proof to a certain point and at that point faith takes over...as you see above.

Just witness a baby being born and it's hard to believe swirling wind and radiation started all of this!
Not to mention those "deposits" from outer space must have an origin.

Yes it is faith... but it boils down to how far back in history before your faith takes over.




sinful nature is always hostile to God....
 
I've seen babies born and I've seen men and women die. And in none of those events did I ever see the hand of a god.

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Everything you just said has been foretold by God. "I knew you while you were in your mothers' womb" ; time appointed to be born and to die. In all of this one can see the hand of God if you will simply open your eyes. Have I ever seen God, in person? No, have you? Have you ever seen evidence of how God can work in people's lives? Yes, and if you would be truthful to yourself, you most likely have also. It completely amazes me how hard an atheist will work to prove that God doesn't exist and, in my opinion, Jesus Christ could walk up and shake your hand and you wouldn't believe it was Him. He could show you His hands, feet and the hole in His side and you would still deny Him. OK, deny Him to your heart's content, enjoy this world and all it's temptations and sin but, one day, and it may be soon, you will be confronted with the fact that your mortal life has just expired. "And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment. Hebrews 9:27. "The day of the Lord is near upon all the heathen. Obad. 15." "By thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned. Matt 12:37." We shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. Rom. 14:10."

In so many posts I have seen God cursed, belittled and denied. Some doing so may truly be atheist and deny God. Some may just be parroting someone else just to enter into the discussion and not really give thought to what they are doing, only be one of the boys. I do sincerely believe in God and I carry a burden in my heart for those who will be lost and face the wrath of God. I, and several others on here, do truly believe and try to show the error of their ways to anyone who will listen., The Bible says that if we see our brother in sin, and do not admonish him for his error, his sin will be upon us also. Well, I have been relieved of enough of my own sins, through the grace of God, and I don't want to carry any of yours. It has been said many times that, if you don't believe in God, leave the rest of us alone to enjoy our discussions. If you want to have discussions among yourselves about why you are an atheist, have at it. I will not try to invade your space but, by the same token, you could do us the same courtesy.

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I'm not trying to prove god doesn't exist. I'm trying to get you to prove he DOES exist without quoting a 2000 year old book. The bible proves nothing except that men are storytellers. Nostradamus predicted many events that have come to pass, depending on your interpretation of his writings. The bible is no different.

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