What Happens to Us When We Die?

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You're dead, and the body begins to decompose, just like every other living organism on the planet. Your personality, memories, conscience all ceases to function as the brain ceases to function due to the lack of oxygen.

What remains is the physical body which is decomposing or has been cremated and we all exist only in the memories those that remember us, either good or bad.

The ultimate in delusion is the embalming of the body to preserve it. Preserve it for what?
 
nosreme said:
You are alive while you are alive. There is no such thing as "everlasting life" after you are dead. After you die, your body decomposes unless you have it embalmed or frozen (or mummified or otherwise preserved). Nothing--especially an eternal "soul" (a religious fabrication common and essential to the very existence of thousands of religions over the centuries)--goes to equally fabricated and mythical places like "heaven," "hell," "limbo," "purgatory..." Beliefs to the contrary, however sincere, are delusional. The closest you can come to living longer (and helping more than religion ever could) is to donate your organs.
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I wouldnt bet on it..... The wise thing to do is to place your wager on the side that believes.... If you die and nothing happens, fine.... BUT WHAT IF the other happens? (I for one know the truth, and I know for a fact that God doesnt want ANY to perish, but it is YOUR CHOICE, not His...) Hell is real... dont find out from the inside, when it will be too late...
 
Axeanda45 said:
I wouldnt bet on it..... The wise thing to do is to place your wager on the side that believes.... If you die and nothing happens, fine.... BUT WHAT IF the other happens? (I for one know the truth, and I know for a fact that God doesnt want ANY to perish, but it is YOUR CHOICE, not His...) Hell is real... dont find out from the inside, when it will be too late...
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The moment you propose Pascal's Wager is the moment you've conceded the argument.

Pascal's Wager is misdirection. Distraction. It's an evasion: a slippery, dodgy, wanna-be clever trick to avoid the actual argument. It's a way of making the debater feel wily and ingenious, while ignoring the actual question on the table.
 
Oh boy, this ought to t the atheist cranked up again.

Atheist, we know what you are against. Our question is; and something really don't ever say much about, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU FOR?
 
SR9 said:
Oh boy, this ought to t the atheist cranked up again.

Atheist, we know what you are against. Our question is; and something really don't ever say much about, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU FOR?
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What is it, exactly, that I am against?

I am for freedom and liberty. I am for my family and friends. I am for Florida State football. I am for Carolina Hurricanes hockey. I am for good beer. I am for family and education....
 
I am for hard work. I am for respect and sense of duty. I am for fresh herbs. I am for enlightenment and logical debate. ...
 
SR9 said:
WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU FOR?
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Life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, freedom, family, good beer, good BBQ, 22lr ammo.

Atheists are frequently found actually doing something, volunteering at food banks, helping elderly neighbors, drivers for meals-on-wheels, working at secular charities, community activities, volunteer firefighters or rescue squad members, all much harder than praying, but infinitely more useful.

Two hands working will always accomplish more than thousands clasped in prayer.

I spent 31 years getting up at all times of the day and night to put my life on the line to save lives and property of others as a volunteer firefighter. I didn't give a damn what color, sexual persuasion, or religion they were.

I know that many christians also do a great deal for their community, but I have a suspicion that those that ask such questions as "what the hell are you for?" are not the type of christian that is willing to do more than complain and pray.
 
XD40scinNC said:
The moment you propose Pascal's Wager is the moment you've conceded the argument.

Pascal's Wager is misdirection. Distraction. It's an evasion: a slippery, dodgy, wanna-be clever trick to avoid the actual argument. It's a way of making the debater feel wily and ingenious, while ignoring the actual question on the table.
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This thread may be the ONLY chance you had to decide to follow the truth, Our hands are clean....
 
I am for Ford trucks and old European sports cars. I am for homemade pasta. I am for physical fitness. I am for quality knives. I am for well thought-out arguments, not logically flawed arguments to support belief in an unproven god. I am for my dog...
 
XD40scinNC said:
What? Pascal's Wager Part Deux?
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Know what? Maybe he's right. This may be our last chance to accept the teachings of the Creator and the word of The Prophet. After all, the stakes are too high not to believe, am I right?

I, for one, am with you Axeanda. Praise be to Allah!
 
I have always been amazed at the way atheists are so rabid when they deny God. I have wondered for some time now if they are so rabid because they are trying to prove in their own mind they are right and have a small fear that they just could be wrong!

If I was them I would much rather be pleasantly surprised that I was wrong than have a rude awaking that we were right all along!!!
 
Gregmm6 said:
Know what? Maybe he's right. This may be our last chance to accept the teachings of the Creator and the word of The Prophet. After all, the stakes are too high not to believe, am I right?

I, for one, am with you Axeanda. Praise be to Allah!
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There is that, "what if" there is a god, and you spend your entire life worshiping the wrong god, and in the process really pissing off the the one you have to answer too.

Since we can't know, perhaps the safest approach is to be an atheist.

But damn, there I go using the same silly scare tactics of Pascal's Wager that religion uses, and the proverbial "you'll be sorry"
 
XD40scinNC said:
There is that, "what if" there is a god, and you spend your entire life worshiping the wrong god, and in the process really pissing off the the one you have to answer too.

Since we can't know, perhaps the safest approach is to be an atheist.

But damn, there I go using the same silly scare tactics of Pascal's Wager that religion uses, and the proverbial "you'll be sorry"
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Pascal's Wager is good for one thing. It makes it very clear who is unable and/or unwilling to participate in the conversation in a logical manner. The argument is literally "never mind the lack of evidence or logical proof, hell would suck, right? I mean, am I right?"
 
If you have tatoos, or eat pork rinds, or eat shellfish, or wear clothing made of two fibers, then you go to hell.
 
vernsimpson said:
If I was them I would much rather be pleasantly surprised that I was wrong than have a rude awaking that we were right all along!!!
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So you're converting to Hindu and pursuing atman then, right? You'd hate to die and have a rude awakening (or "awaking", as you call it) by finding out that Hindu people were right all along.
 
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