Disney World Concealed Carry


I have to disagree. There is never a time when there is no reason to carry a gun (except for in the pool or shower). I dont believe in playing the odds by carrying when I think I need to, and not carrying when I dont think I need to. Ill carry all the time unless Disney gives me a cop to carry on my shoulder, but even that would be too much work.

So what you are saying is the rules / regulations do not apply to you? Are you saying you pick the rules that you want to follow? I understand 100 percent that you want to be ready for any suspect but there are rules / regulations / policies / ordinances / state statutes / etc. that were written and we do not get to choose which ones we want to follow.

I do love the 2nd amendment and do not want to lose my gun rights but if Disney states no weapons than that's what that means.
 

Turkules77,

You can do whatever you want; I'm not sheeple. I have a God given right to protect myself, recognized-- not granted-- by the 2A. It's bad enough we cowtow to the CCW laws (God does not require us to have a permit to defend ourselves).

If you extend your logic, then you'll carry practically nowhere. That's how we lost Constitutional Carry in the first place. Watch out for the people around you, brother, because they don't truly care about your well being. You go right ahead trusting Disney is the safest place on earth, while I'm a realist, recognizing that human nature means a person with ill intent will try to hurt someone there someday, and despite good intentions, Disney's unarmed security "cast members" will fail to do something about it. I am a free man, and my family won't be that victim, even if it's the "first time it ever happened".

If we extend your "too many people around you" logic, then people in NYC, Chicago, LA, DC, etc., will never be able to protect themselves. Turns out they've already used those arguments in those highly populated areas, stripped their rights, and yet those are the most dangerous places for sheeple victims. If I or my family are assaulted in a busy area, I'm not going to altruistically sacrifice ourselves because of the unknown chance that somebody in the background might get hurt, when there is a certainty somebody in front of me will get hurt.

If you still feel that way, go ahead and convert your guns back into plows, and work the fields for those who refuse to do the same.

Edited to add: I will take lifetime ban from Disney and negative publicity over being a disarmed victim any day of the week. So should you. Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6 as they say. Or another way to put it: you can get out of jail, but you can't get out of dead.

I will not carry on to private property where carrying is not permitted. I respect others wishes, even if I don't believe in them. You can choose not to go there if you don't like it.

By your logic, I wouldn't have to follow any rules or laws.
 
So what you are saying is the rules / regulations do not apply to you? Are you saying you pick the rules that you want to follow? I understand 100 percent that you want to be ready for any suspect but there are rules / regulations / policies / ordinances / state statutes / etc. that were written and we do not get to choose which ones we want to follow.

I do love the 2nd amendment and do not want to lose my gun rights but if Disney states no weapons than that's what that means.

Couldn't have said it better myself. I guess some people think they are above the law or get to act like they are better than everyone else.
 
So what you are saying is the rules / regulations do not apply to you? Are you saying you pick the rules that you want to follow? I understand 100 percent that you want to be ready for any suspect but there are rules / regulations / policies / ordinances / state statutes / etc. that were written and we do not get to choose which ones we want to follow.

I do love the 2nd amendment and do not want to lose my gun rights but if Disney states no weapons than that's what that means.

In other words you trust Disney to protect you. Good luck! When I was there last year, I didn't see any signs saying I couldn't carry (I wasn't carrying because I was going on a cruise afterward and had no place to keep a gun). But what is the law in Florida? What requirements do the signs have to meet? So you're banned for life, so what? Do they run facial recognition on everyone entering the park? I think you are looking to borrow trouble.
 
By your logic, I wouldn't have to follow any rules or laws.

God's Laws, last I checked, made no exclusions for amusement parks in Florida.

Man's laws are one man trying to control another, coincidentally so is an assailant from whom your firearms are intended to protect you.

Laws or not, every decision you make is uniquely yours, unless you've never broken a rule in your life (and if you haven't, feel free to throw the first stone).

Seeing as I did nothing unlawful, nor even posted by sign on said private property, I don't understand how you can come to this conclusion.
 
I understand 100 percent that you want to be ready for any suspect but there are rules / regulations / policies / ordinances / state statutes / etc. that were written and we do not get to choose which ones we want to follow.

The "laws" are: concealed means concealed, if not concealed, leave or be charged with trespass.

The civil aspects are loss of a good or service paid by private contract between "guest" and Disney. No criminal code governs that, and some of us don't mind risking it. If a return visit to Disney out values your life and family, that's your call.

I do love the 2nd amendment and do not want to lose my gun rights

Rights are like a muscle, they whither and die when not exercised. Compromise is not exercise. Rights are also God-given, not Disney-given.

if Disney states no weapons than that's what that means.

You would have to go out of your way to even learn their policies as they are not posted, and are buried in fine print minutia. Even so, there are likely other policies of Disney's that you do not like and would not choose to follow.

Policies do not weigh more heavily than life.
 
Disney will allow you to place your weapon in the safe in the park

I may have misread, but this appears to be an option offered only to off duty LEOs. I am not confident they would offer this to us commoners.


so there is NO reason to carry a weapon inside the parks.

Here are several reasons:
- because some potential bad guy can
- because Disney security doesn't, but some bad guy could
- because even if Disney security did carry, they might be minutes away when seconds count
- because even if Disney security carried and were nearby, you are one more shooting back to further tip the odds in your favor
- because you don't take any chances
- because you carry everywhere you go
- because it's not unlawful
- because you want to
- just because
 
Cleveland Elementary School in Stockton, California
Westroads Mall in Omaha, Nebraska
Columbine High School
Luby's Cafeteria in Killeen, Texas
McDonald's in San Ysidro, California
The American Civic Association immigration center in Binghamton, New York
Virginia Polytechnic University

All of those places had crowds of innocent people in them just like you would have at Disney World...

First, does anyone know if this sets a record for oldest resurrected thread at USA Carry? ;-)~

Second, when I started reading the current posts, my first thought was of Luby's Cafeteria in Killeen, TX. That event gave birth to one of the most compelling speakers on the 2nd Amendment I've ever heard. Her name is Suzanna Hupp, and she was a CWP holder who followed the law and left her weapon in her car as she and both of her parents went into Luby's that day. She survived. Neither of her parents did.

Substitute the word "Luby's" with "Disney" or any other "gun-free zone" venue, and tell us you would disagree with her statement before Congress during the Assault Weapons Ban hearings that she would rather be sitting in jail on a felony rap and have her parents still alive than be able to say she was a good citizen because she followed the law.

This is the answer to whether or not to disarm upon every request from a property owner or corporate representative, and internally, that answer for me is always, "No Way!"

 
....When I was there last year, I didn't see any signs saying I couldn't carry ....
There are no signs. And despite some statements here to the contrary, it isn't really illegal to carry at Disney World, at least not to the extent being suggested by some. It's a violation of Disney policy. If they had signs up, or could otherwise prove prior knowledge on your part, the most they could get you for under Florida law is misdemeanor trespassing. But they don't do that either, mainly for public relations reasons. Arresting otherwise peaceful patrons at Disney World isn't exactly the image they want to present.
 
So what you are saying is the rules / regulations do not apply to you? Are you saying you pick the rules that you want to follow? I understand 100 percent that you want to be ready for any suspect but there are rules / regulations / policies / ordinances / state statutes / etc. that were written and we do not get to choose which ones we want to follow.

I do love the 2nd amendment and do not want to lose my gun rights but if Disney states no weapons than that's what that means.

I will follow the law. If a place like Disney has a rule that says no gun, I will not go there. If I am forced to go there, such as going with family, I will carry anyway. I'd rather get asked to leave than carried out in a body bag.
 
I have not been to Disney in years but I could of sworn I saw a sign (in very small print) that stated no firearms in the park. That is the reason why I asked the ticket lady about the sign years back. She asked me if I had a weapon and I stated I did and I showed her my creds(badge). That is when the security guard told me the regulation / policy stated that all weapons had to be checked in.

Also when I was in the secret security room I did ask about CCW permit holders. He stated that they also can check their weapons in the same way.

Here is a suggestion to anyone who is going in the future, ask?

And here is a good story that is true by the way. I was with my wife and 3 kids when I was able to walk through the security checkpoint and the guard did not check my fanny bag (yes I still carry the fanny pack to conceal my gun). I was so busy with the kids when I forgot to check my weapon in. So I walked up to the next security guard after getting off the train and told him I needed to check my duty weapon into security. His eyes got HUGE and he asked me if I was carrying a gun. I stated I was and I told him I was a off duty LEO. He got on his radio and called for backup. I thought at that point I was going to be tossed out of the park and my wife was mad as heck cause she hated that I carried that gun every second of the day.

About 5 minutes pass when two well dressed males in suits with ear pieces (Secret Service agent look a likes) showed up. I asked the guys in the suits what the problem was. He asked me for my credentials so I handed them over. He looked at the creds and he asked how I was able to get all the way into the park with a gun. I told him that I had forgotten to tell the security guard at the front and I had got so tied up with the kids. They then said it was a big deal because security was to search my fanny bag before I entered the park. I told him it was a simple mistake by them and people make mistakes.

They escorted me back to the secret security room and some "Big Wig" vice president from the head of security was waiting for me. To make a very long story short they pulled out a photo lineup of the security guards that were working the check point and wanted me to point out the guard who let me in the park. I told him I was not going to point him out so that he would be fired. I stated it was my fault and not the security guards fault and that I took full responsibility for the mistake.

The good news is they paid for my stroller for the day ($30 bucks) and they gave me and the family a free day in the park ($300 +). Now that is some good service. The only bad news is when I returned hours later to get my weapon the VP was there and he tried again for me to finger the guy out of the photo lineup. Again I told him I was not going to be the one to get some poor old man fired. (This happened back in 2008)
 
Just carried concealed in Epcot and Hollywood Studios today. Nobody asked and nobody cared. Didn't even see any signs, although you better by God not have food or drink on the bus :)

If I print or otherwise "unconceal" in Texas, it is a problem, so I'm very comfortable with Disney's don't ask - don't tell.

Remember, they DO check your bags, so don't put your piece in a purse or fanny pack.
 
As a general rule I try to avoid masses of people clamoring all over each other in the manner that you find at most amusement parks. It's just not my idea of a fun time. I'll probably only be able to avoid it for so long as my kids get older though, but we're closer to Disneyland and I don't think I'll have the option to carry at that point. :fie:
 
Final Results from Disney World

Spare mags or speedloaders might not be wise either.

We did so much park-hopping, I found it easier to let my wife take the bag through the "search" line whilst I walked through the "guests without bags" line. Some days I carried my Ruger SP101 .357 mag revolver and some days I carried my Taurus Millenium Pro .45 ACP. I carried in the Bulldog bellyband I wear when running, so I could wear whatever clothing I desired.

Also, the gun I wasn't carrying remained in my personal gun safe in the resort room (safe was in a drawer).

And I never once saw any sign that said "no firearms" or anything similar, including "ghostbuster" gun signs.
 
PDW, this is an email that was received directly from a Walt Disney Resorts spokesperson. Very clear on their policy...
Dear &%#@,

Thank you for contacting the Walt Disney World Resort.

It may interest you to know we have a strict policy regarding firearms.

Our policy is that no guns are permitted in our theme Parks or Resorts.

If a resort guest brings one on property, it must be locked up in the safe deposit boxes at the front desk, not in a room safe. If guests visiting our theme parks bring in firearms, it must either be left in their vehicle, or checked in with security when entering the park. Only on-duty law enforcement officers whose agency has jurisdiction at the Walt Disney World Resort may carry any weapon.

If you have questions or need further assistance, feel free to contact us.

Sincerely,

— Betsy Mayer, WDW Online Communications
 
Ok, I'm concerned. Going with my family to Disney in Orlando for 5 days next month. The state of Florida honors my permit (s.Carolina), but I know the Disney parks do not. I'll honor their request & not carry in the parks, but what about the resort on the premises we're staying @? I wanna make sure I can legally carry my gun in all places except the park. PLEASE HELP & ENLIGHTEN ME FLORIDA RESIDENTS & REGULAR DISNEY PATRONS!! Thanks!
 
same answer as the other thread, disney does not want guns in/on any part of their property. the only place they actually search/scan people is at their parks. that said you more than likely would never be found out in most areas as long as you are properly concealed. You need to be aware that if you are found out they will ask you to leave the property and you MUST comply or you will be arrested for armed trespass which can be a felony. so if you decide to take the chance and carry there if you are found out don't argue that you have any kind of right to carry there, you don't and disney will have you prosecuted, this is no joke.
 

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