In-laws visiting

So, I've read all the comments so far and appreciate the thoughts. I agree that I could have said something else or more, but didn't take the moment or two to think through a response. This is someone that I have had a very tenuous relationship with for a while, and whoever said that he "had a preconception" or something like that was pretty accurate. As for the real reason I carry when I do, it is because I feel it is my responsibility to protect myself and my family AND since I have the right to, don't feel it necessary to explain it to anyone that may find out unintentionally, including FILs.

We'll chalk this up to a typical "discussion" with him that means nothing in the end and after 26 years, I'm sure there's no chance of changing his mind towards me.

And yes, he's a liberal and a Christian mocker, which also stirs up trouble in my house.
J
 
So, I've read all the comments so far and appreciate the thoughts. I agree that I could have said something else or more, but didn't take the moment or two to think through a response. This is someone that I have had a very tenuous relationship with for a while, and whoever said that he "had a preconception" or something like that was pretty accurate. As for the real reason I carry when I do, it is because I feel it is my responsibility to protect myself and my family AND since I have the right to, don't feel it necessary to explain it to anyone that may find out unintentionally, including FILs.

We'll chalk this up to a typical "discussion" with him that means nothing in the end and after 26 years, I'm sure there's no chance of changing his mind towards me.

J

Still..... and this is just my opinion.... It seems like he asked you a politically charged question driven by passion fueled emotion. Your answer comes across to me as being exactly the same. Instead of letting him get to you and eliciting a response on his level, take a deep breath, think about it, and offer him a calm, concise and clear answer that is way above his level.
 
I know plenty of conservative Republicans who loath guns. Some in my own family. It's not just liberals. It seems that anytime someone expresses an anti gun opinion people here are so quick to label them liberals or Democrats. It's this kind of thinking that is pushing this country farther apart everyday. Anti's come in all flavors. What we need to focus on is education and helping anti's of all types open their minds and be willing to listen to a differing opinion.


My FIL is a conservative and is about as anti BIG government as they come. But, he isn't comfortable with CC or guns at all. (Even for hunting)
 
Remind him it is also for protection of his daughter and that while you carry your protection the chances of keeping his daughter safe are much greater than without.
 
Tell him that is fine he does not have to carry one nor does he have to be comfortable with you doing so. All he has to do is respect your RIGHT to do so.
 
Since he called a semi-auto a revolver. I would not put much stock in what he had to say. It could be his rear your saving if something happened at dinner.
 
I got really lucky in the in-law department. My father in law presented me with a rifle one Easter. We have always had a shotgun shoot for thanksgiving with all of both of our families since my wife and I got married.
 
So, the in-laws are in town visiting. We are getting ready to go out to dinner and I'm in my bedroom, chilling out on the bed. I have my EDC on my right hip in a Crossbread super tuck, without my cover shirt on. He comes in to ask me to help him with his computer and sees my Stoeger Cougar 9mm and says "Why do you have your revolver on?" I said, "because I can and it's my right." He says, "you're not going to wear that to dinner are you?" "Yes, I am." Then, he says "Only in Texas." I said, "Actually, they have concealed carry laws in SC(wear he lives), too". "Well, I don't know anyone that carries and never see anyone carrying in SC." I said, "That's why it's called CONCEALED." He gets all flustered and says he doesn't feel good about that, and walks out of the room.

We go to dinner with me carrying and him not saying anything to me the rest of the night! LOL.

J

Couple of questions for you.

1. Why would your father in law think it was okay for him to walk. unannounced. into your bed room? Isn't that pretty much your inner sanctum?

2. At that ime, it would have been a perfect time to help educate him on the differences between a revolver and a pistol.

3. It would also have been a good time to start a discussion about the Constitution and the rights that we are born with.

4. Perfect time to tell him that his life, along with his daughters, your wife and your mother in laws life is well worth protecting and that the reason you carry is to ensure the life and safety of them all. Could have earned some point there!

Letting him get "flustered" about the situation does nothing towards education. You may know why you carry, and since you let him walk into your inner sanctum unannounced, you have exposed what normally would be a concealed condition, you have exposed him to your "condition" without explanation.

If you want to get the approval of your in laws (not that you have to) you might want to consider an argument of a much higher level than "because I can". JMO of course.
 
So, the in-laws are in town visiting. We are getting ready to go out to dinner and I'm in my bedroom, chilling out on the bed. I have my EDC on my right hip in a Crossbread super tuck, without my cover shirt on. He comes in to ask me to help him with his computer and sees my Stoeger Cougar 9mm and says "Why do you have your revolver on?" I said, "because I can and it's my right." He says, "you're not going to wear that to dinner are you?" "Yes, I am." Then, he says "Only in Texas." I said, "Actually, they have concealed carry laws in SC(wear he lives), too". "Well, I don't know anyone that carries and never see anyone carrying in SC." I said, "That's why it's called CONCEALED." He gets all flustered and says he doesn't feel good about that, and walks out of the room.
We're all suppose to "laugh at the ignoramus" because he doesn't know the difference between a semi-auto and a revolver? Both my in-laws carry. My FIL, although i question the stopping power, carries a .32 and a .380 all the time, and my MIL carries a .357 and a .9 mm. I'll be the first to admit it. I'm a gun snob. But if a Stoeger or a High Point is all you can afford, then that's what you carry.
 
We're all suppose to "laugh at the ignoramus" because he doesn't know the difference between a semi-auto and a revolver?

you're not supposed to do anything. I related what was said. you decide what to think of it. as far as the Stoeger, it shoots better than my Browning Double Action/Sig Sauer, which is probably better than any gun you own (from a snob's perspective).
J
 
So that's the only reason you carry? I've never understood giving only that answer. I don't carry "because I can and it's my right." I carry to have the means available to protect myself and my family should a criminal choose to commit a violent criminal act. Would you not have made a more convincing argument by saying, "to possibly save your daughter's life with in the event a nut job or criminal chooses to attack us?"
I have yet to figure out the correct answer to why I carry. If I say because I want to protect my family or myself I get labeled as paranoid.
 
dang ... being the FIL, I am about to give my daughter-in-law a .380 so she will have a weapon that fits her comfortably. she has shot it and enjoys shooting it.

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I have yet to figure out the correct answer to why I carry. If I say because I want to protect my family or myself I get labeled as paranoid.

Are you paranoid of having a flat tire because you have a spare tire in your car?
Are you paranoid of getting in a car wreck if you wear a seat belt because you know it makes you safer in a wreck?
Are you paranoid of a fire if you have a smoke detector and/or fire extinguisher in the house?

Ask any of the people who have been killed by a gunman if they think now it is paranoid to be prepared...oh wait...

Watch the news on TV any night of the week and see how many people are affected by a violent criminal act...

Just my thoughts for answers.
 
My FIL has more guns than me of every type, yet he is pretty liberal about gun rights. He's one of those who rants and raves about liberals, yet makes comments like "you'll have the SWAT team at your house" over me OCing. He owns several very nice reliable handguns that he SHOULD get a CCL license for since he is a hillbilly who likes to walk around with his head up his rear in South St. Paul when picking up his wife from work...but I think he's a conservative in speech only since he complains about anti hunting legislation and the UNATT and all that but recycles the typical liberal paranoid positions on carrying when his wife brings it up. I used to withhold my political beliefs from him and tease him about his ultra-conservativeness but lately its just kinda...meh.
 
Watch the news on TV any night of the week and see how many people are affected by a violent criminal act...

Just my thoughts for answers.

Watching the Minneapolis news for 15 minutes in the morning while I shove my kid onto the bus reinforces the good feeling I get from feeling that extra 20 oz on my hip. Usually starts off with a stabbing, then a gang-related double shooting, then onto the domestics... This morning it was a 57 year old and her teenage grandson who were murdered followed by one of the many "if you have any information on this double homicide...."
 

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