Illinois Ban on Concealed Carry is coming to an end!

OldLlama32, Yes, you are absolutely correct. When you figure he has been in power for over 38 years and has his Daughter as State AG, the abuse of power has earned Illinois the tag... Most Corrupt State Government in the Nation.
 
Speaker Madigan dragged his feet on the concealed carry bill for Illinois, so it did not come up for a vote yet. Now they are on summer break. What an idiot. Too much power and a personal agenda is my opinon.
As I said, Illinois will NEVER get concealed carry via legislation. Rahm Emmanuel doesn't WANT it. In case nobody's noticed, he's pushing repressive gun controls on the NATIONAL level. What degree of naivete is required to believe that he'd allow concealed carry in Illinois?

The ONLY way that Illinois will EVER get shall issue concealed carry is via Federal court decision. And that is a long shot.
 
Illinois better start allowing concealed carry. 2012 so far there have been 226 murders in Chicago alone and the year is only half over. So if that many criminals have guns it's about time lawful people had them. If I lived in Chi-town I would carry my Ruger SR9c with two 17 round mags and my pocket .32 for backup. Down with those killers.

:neo:
 
As I said, Illinois will NEVER get concealed carry via legislation. Rahm Emmanuel doesn't WANT it. In case nobody's noticed, he's pushing repressive gun controls on the NATIONAL level. What degree of naivete is required to believe that he'd allow concealed carry in Illinois?

The ONLY way that Illinois will EVER get shall issue concealed carry is via Federal court decision. And that is a long shot.

To not have any Faith, in what you say you believe in, is in of itself...Defeat!
 
To not have any Faith, in what you say you believe in, is in of itself...Defeat!
  1. I'm an agnostic. I don't have faith in a supernatural god. I damned well don't have any in the Illinois legislature or the simpletons who elect and reelect the gangsters who serve in it.
  2. At NO point have I claimed to have ANY belief in the possibility of achieving shall issue CCW in Illinois via legislation. In fact, I've stated that it's virtually IMPOSSIBLE.
Your "faith" in a legislative solution to shall issue concealed carry in Illinois is of a kind with the Imperial Japanese Army's "faith" in the ability of "bushido" and "Yamato damashii" to overcome the atomic bomb.
 
My best to the citizens of Illinois. I certainly hope you are allowed the same freedoms as most of the USA. Unless there is a drastic change in the political climate of Illinois, it'll be a miracle.
 
DEANIMATOR : Its funny you should use that analogy, the Japanese DID over come not one, but two Atomic Bombs... Nagasaki and Hiroshima. I am amazed at how they came back from the beating we gave them. We now buy all of their stuff and they Vacation in Hawaii in Homes that they own there. I guess, anything is possible, if you work hard enough and do not fall victim to being an angry pessimist. We sent a guy over there that taught them how to beat us at our own game. MacArthur requested his assistance in getting the Country functioning again. So one Man, changed the course of an entire Nation and thereby the World. If you do not think we can Change a State Law and thereby a City Ordinance, perhaps you should just stay on the porch and let the Big Dogs Run! What does a guy from Rock River, Ohio. care about Illinois anyway? No Faith in God, Country or Fellow Citizens. Deanimator, you may want to get some counseling, life could be a lot better for you, if you did.
 
Funny you should use that analogy, the Japanese did over come not one, but two Atomic Bombs...
No, they DIDN'T. They SURRENDERED. If they'd "over come" two atomic bombs, they'd still be running a slave empire in Korea, Taiwan, and China.

Sigh, I blame the public schools...
 
So, which other of your rights do think the government should require training on, before they let you use them?:bad:

Well, they already have a pretty strong hold on the way people think, that training has been going on for a while. There will always be a need for a government and there will always be a need to control its people, for better or worse. Required training, whether it be military, McDonalds, or driving a vehicle, is a necessity. I think owing a firearm deserves to be backed with knowledge and understanding because it is a thing that can used anytime, anywhere, for any reason to either defend ones self or commit a crime. If we all were as smart as we thought we were we wouldn't have a society and gov't like we do.
Gov't required training is not what bothers me as long as it legitimately tests. But as I am finding out more and more that it's really all a ******** act to run a citizen through hoops just to make it seem like we've earned it.
Thanks for asking
 
Sonofcops, I agree, we do need to have a more responsible group of people who carry, than the general public. This will be debated by some, but if you have ever been on the Range with a new gun owner, you know what I mean. We are assuming a big responsibility. The State of Florida says: "Individuals who choose to arm themselves with weapons should, therefore, be armed with the most indispensable weapon of all :knowledge'.
 
They have a Slave Empire, the people world wide that are in Debt from buying their stuff. Also, they have Factories here in the U.SA, where we work like Slaves to get a Paycheck. It is still a Victory for them, even if you can't see it. Read the Art of War... then you see with new eyes, Deanimator Son.
 
As I said, Illinois will NEVER get concealed carry via legislation. Rahm Emmanuel doesn't WANT it. In case nobody's noticed, he's pushing repressive gun controls on the NATIONAL level. What degree of naivete is required to believe that he'd allow concealed carry in Illinois?
Rahm Emmanuel is the type of personality that rules with an iron fist even though he is missing a finger. What Happened almost immediately after he became chief of Staff at the White House? Do you really think that anything that went on in the first two years of the Obama Administration was actually done by Obama? NEGATIVE! Rahm approved every speech on the teleprompter, he coached Obama before every press conference (all 2 of them) nothing happened and I mean nothing happened without his absolute review and approval.
NOW, Rahm gets a visit from the Bloombergs and Anti-Gun Progressives probably sometime between November and January.
In return for some fat and juicy monetary contributions to whatever, what is Rahm and Obama going to do about the armed citizenry.
In his typical Chicago Style, We first have to manufacture a crisis. Then we legislate to solve the crisis.
Hence "Fast and Furious".
Holder can not give him up and must take the fall for Rahm. If it is ever traced back to Rahm then the White House is exposed as is the "campaign" contributions from the Brady's and Bloombergs. It would make Watergate look like a flee on a Brahma Bull.

ps. Why do all the dead voters in Chicago vote Democrat? Hell for that matter why to all the dead voters anywhere vote Democrat?

Disclaimer: The above scenario is based only on my experience working for bosses with the Napoleonic complex like the ballerina Rham.
 
The Anti-Gunners took away our Rights when the Veterans of WW2 were still alive and young. They simply thought it could not happen, so they did not fight the issue. If you fail to act, you have failed in your Duty. If we fail, it won't be because I sat on my ass and just said, I give up. If you care, get involved, contribute some time, effort or money to an organization like Second Amendment Foundation, illinoiscarry.com or just call Illinois Officials to Support HB0148. I run a Plumbing Business and I talk to people about this every chance I get, to get people talking and thinking about it. Ask yourself, how important is this and then, act on that decision.
 
They have a Slave Empire, the people world wide that are in Debt from buying their stuff. Also, they have Factories here in the U.SA, where we work like Slaves to get a Paycheck. It is still a Victory for them, even if you can't see it. Read the Art of War... then you see with new eyes, Deanimator Son.
You have the Japanese confused with the Chinese. Japan's "empire" consists of the home islands, the Ryukyus and Iwo Jima.

I'm probably old enough to be your father, and have forgotten more Japanese (and American) history than you will EVER know.

As I said, I blame the public schools.
 
Well, they already have a pretty strong hold on the way people think, that training has been going on for a while. There will always be a need for a government and there will always be a need to control its people, for better or worse. Required training, whether it be military, McDonalds, or driving a vehicle, is a necessity. I think owing a firearm deserves to be backed with knowledge and understanding because it is a thing that can used anytime, anywhere, for any reason to either defend ones self or commit a crime. If we all were as smart as we thought we were we wouldn't have a society and gov't like we do.
Gov't required training is not what bothers me as long as it legitimately tests. But as I am finding out more and more that it's really all a ******** act to run a citizen through hoops just to make it seem like we've earned it.
Thanks for asking

Oddly, agreeing with Deanimator
Sigh, I blame the public schools...:sad:
 
DEANIMATOR, Your Icon is of a Character, who was a Mass Murderer, You say that you do not believe in God, Country or your Fellow Citizens, Politicians or Courts. Why do you even continue to live, just to pester me? Find some other place to spread your hate. Were all done.
 
DEANIMATOR, Your Icon is of a Character, who was a Mass Murderer, You say that you do not believe in God, Country or your Fellow Citizens, Politicians or Courts. Why do you even continue to live, just to pester me? Find some other place to spread your hate. Were all done.
Strange, can you quote where I said I didn't believe in the country? Yeah, I didn't think so.

I believe in SOME of my fellow citizens. Of course I don't consider Illinoisians, and Chicagoans in particular, "fellow citizens". They're as alien to me as any North Korean I saw on the DMZ.

Your disapproval of me hardly inspires me to suicide.

To paraphrase a great Missourian, "I never spread hate. I spread the TRUTH and people THOUGHT it was hate."

You have every right to live in a fantasy world of your own creation. You have no right to be respected for it.
 

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