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Bighouse Doc
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Incarcerated felons view guilt and innocence in a different way than normal people do.
One might first blurt out " I am innocent.." then later comment "..Well, maybe I did it but don't deserve this..."
They also have a need to be believed as innocent. For example, it is common for them to believes someone is innocent, in return for that person believing they are innocent. They then proceed to try to impress each other with the details of the allegedly, non-occurring crime.
They also rationalize, in a very sociopathic way, how what they did really wasn't wrong. They also love to say things like"..well everyone does it, I only got caught..."
-Doc
One might first blurt out " I am innocent.." then later comment "..Well, maybe I did it but don't deserve this..."
They also have a need to be believed as innocent. For example, it is common for them to believes someone is innocent, in return for that person believing they are innocent. They then proceed to try to impress each other with the details of the allegedly, non-occurring crime.
They also rationalize, in a very sociopathic way, how what they did really wasn't wrong. They also love to say things like"..well everyone does it, I only got caught..."
-Doc
cmhbob
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Based on the bolded section, it would have been defense of another. Worst he should have faced would have been manslaughter. Once he hid the body, his conduct suggested guilt.
Moses didn't commit murder as we think of it. He defended another human being. I wish pastors would quit saying that was murder.
I can't recall Moses bearing a weapon later in the Bible, but we may not be using the same translation. Remember his context - he was raised in Pharaoh's house, then called by God.
It's putting God in an awfully small box to think that He couldn't have accomplished the arrival of His Son if we had somehow imprisoned Moses. My God doesn't fit in any box my mind can come up with. That's why He's God and I'm not.
accidentalfelon
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I will take you two up on that when I can get back to my computer.
Meanwhile, to the poster with the molester released...my question is this..why is this maggot still breathing?
Your problem isn't with my philosophy. Your problem is with the philosophy of those who released the maggot, yet you back up their philosophy by agreeing with them in opposition to my plea and supporting their failed process that attempts to punish me for life while allowing that scum to walk the streets as if we are from the same mold.
Make the punishment fit the crime and quit allowing them to quietly disarm the entire populace through criminalizing acts that are victimless like carrying a gun in yout pocket
I will say this again... Apparently I haven't been clear enough here. Some crimes demand execution. Others deserve punishment. Others are better served with restitution.
However there are hundreds of thousands reduced to a sub citizen status for crimes that were completely victimless crimes or non traumatic crimes that the could have easily accomplished the goal of changing hearts via simple restitution.
I have gotten maybe 4 or 5 speeding tickets in over 20 years. No arrests. I have not been searched by a cop since I left the jail over 20 years ago. I have never hurt a soul. I have never hit a person in anger since I was 22. I have not stolen or embezzled. I don't cheat on my taxes. I am active in my community and play golf and socialize with local politicians. Our company donates to many charitable causes. We are waiting for church to start as I type this along with my grown son and his wife and kids.
One more thing for you to all make fun of if you would like... we all keep one blank loaded in the chamber just in case the bg has a change of heart from the fear if being shot. Who knows, that split second could be all he needs to change his life forever.
I am speaking on behalf of the thousands like me. Not the ones who should be behind bars or executed
Treo
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Ok so what am I supposed to gain from this? You still disply utter contempt for the Law (you know that thing the Bible commands you to obey?) by illegally owning firearms. There's the rub, you decided that the law didn't apply to you and found out the hard way that it did now put on your big boy panties and deal with it.
That is quite possibly the dumbest thing I have ever read on the internet. what are you going to do when the bad guy doesn't change his mind and you find out the hard way that a blank round won't cycle the action on your illegally owned gun?
accidentalfelon
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The gist of the story is that Moses was a bit of a hot head. Even years later he struck the rock instead of speaking to it and that cost him entry into the promised land. Yet, interestingly, he is called the the most humble man on earth.
His striking the rock put a kink in God's plan to show how, once the rock (Jesus) was smitten the first time, then all we would have to do is speak to the Rock (Jesus) after that to receive the living water. Moses threw some wacky paint on God's picture and messed it up. God didn't like it and punished him. It produced even more change in him as he became what God knew was inside him - the most humble man on earth.
How is it possible that Moses changed? People don't change. Right? lol. Thousands of people do change. If that weren't the case there would be no need for punishment since they can't change anyway.
Punishment has always been implemented with the goal of producing change and/or restitution. That is, until recent history.
God gave us the perfect judicial punishment system. Under that system, in my case, first of all I would not have been punished at all. Because carrying a weapon produces no victim. Without a victim, there is no crime. Once I was wrongly charged with armed robbery two things could have happend:
1) Since It was claimed that I took $61 (we had more than $3k on us when arrested) then by God's laws, if convicted I would have had to pay back double or $121.00 and I would have been on my way. If it was determined that the so called "victim" had suffered duress I would have had to pay whatever the court determined was fair. If I could not pay I would have gone into confinement to work the debt off.
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2) If I could prove the plaintiff was lying then HE would have to suffer whatever punishment I would have received had I been convicted.
Either way none of the outcomes could have resulted in a sentence that followed me a single day past the day the sentence was complete.
If anyone cares to study the value of biblical punishments the best, most concise info I have ever found is located here:
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Treo, I believe the Bible allows me to disobey laws that conflict with God's own stance. I have searched the entire bible and haven't found anywhere where a man's duty to protect his family can be legislated away by some pin head politician. You may not believe this. You will not be standing before God in my place at the end of my life so your opinion on that matter is relevant only to you.
Regarding the blanks. The cycling is not an issue except on one. My son has a 1911. It will not cycle with the blanks. He carries it anyway. It's his choice. He has to rack it after the first shot. He is well practiced and is fast and accurate.
The reason for the blank is because he doesn't want to hurt anyone. None of us do. I would imagine that if any of us ever have to fire upon anyone regardless of what their intent was towards us it would scar us permanently and we would have to lean on each other and God to get through it.
The last thing I'd ever want to do is be the final end of someone's chance to make their life mean something here on earth. But if it meant the life of my wife or kids I'd continue pulling the trigger till the threat was neutralized. I pray that day will never come.
You don't need to understand it, nor approve of it. I didn't ask for your approval and don't need it. But I knew it would be made fun of when I revealed it. I was just trying to uncover the false implication that I and my family (via their support of me) were some kind of thugs running around menacing society between prison terms.
And for all he "shank" and other prison junk that's being thrown around, I think I may have given some the impression that I was in prison. I've never been in prison a day in my life. It's all just more fodder for false conclusions about me.
Danmc
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Really? Going with the 1 in a million chance that you are not trolling, that you really do not know the answer...of course not. Murder does not have a statue of limitations. Murder is a felony. Felons are not allowed to bear arms.
Warbirds
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I seem to not be as educated as Mr Felon here..... I do not want to pay taxes, who can try to distort the Bible to justify what I want to do? :sarcastic:
And let me clarify something here. I have never been detained, never involuntarily worn a pair of handcuffs. And never been in any lockup of any kind. Prison... jail... tomatoes, tomatos.
And let me clarify something here. I have never been detained, never involuntarily worn a pair of handcuffs. And never been in any lockup of any kind. Prison... jail... tomatoes, tomatos.
Treo
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Because God didn't know he was gonna do it? No one puts a kink in God's plan.
1. Cite please?
2. Who's protecting your family when you go to prison for felon in possesion?
Still, quite possibly the dumbest thing I have ever read on the internet.
Yet
Treo
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Can't do it the Bible actually says pay taxes to whom taxes are due.
I have been detained (So have you, if you've ever had a speeding ticket you were detained) and arrested and handcuffed.
What I've never been is convicted
accidentalfelon
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First statment/question:
Yeah, I know that, but what I was trying to say was that Moses used his own free will and temperament to disobey God's direct instruction and his decision took a good opportunity for an accurate "antitype" and made it inaccurate. Of course God knew it was going to happen. I think its a perfect example of how God's will marches on even when we muck it up with our own sin.
In Answer to 1)
I think we already discussed this elsewhere. It was against the law for David to eat the bread set aside only for the priests. Jesus compared David's breaking of the law to the accusation that Jesus' disciples picking grain on the Sabbath to eat on the spot was breaking the law. (I don't know BCV off the top of my head, but hey, this is the internet, you can look it up)
Apparently there the law of self preservation trumps other laws. How can there be any more clear cut example of self preservation than being armed against scumbags in this day and age. That's my theory anyway. I won't be standing in your place on judgement day for you, so you'll have to do what you think is right. "Whatever is not of faith, is sin".
In answer to 2)
God, and the training I've provided my family.
Regarding the last statement:
Anything short of blowing someone's head off instantly is considered "risky" now because the cops and a bunch of "theorists" have determined that instant death of an assailant is the only method of dealing with an attack.
But thousands of cops and citizens throughout history have held assailants at bay with nothing more than the mere "brandishing" of the weapon. If it weren't true then the police would never have to hold anyone at gunpoint, they would simply pull the gun out and shoot it everytime they come to what they perceive as a threat like we are being taught that we have to do.
If brandishing works for the cops why wouldn't it work for us? The reason why is because they don't want us having guns at all and want to scare the crap out of all of us with the fear of being arrested for "brandishing" or "firing a warning shot". It's all part of the psychological disarming of the country. And I'm afraid you have fallen for it too.
(By "brandishing" I mean pulling out a gun when you are in fear in the hopes that everyone walks away from the event alive.)
Treo
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I don't think he's trying to justify anything, I think he made up the story out of whole cloth.
Treo
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That's my point.
I don't think he's a convicted felon, I think he's a troll
I doubt very seriously if he even owns a firearm
I'd actually be amazed if he was old enough to drive.
He is twisting the teachings of the Bible though
fudo
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My like link isn't working. Localgirl! Sick um!
fudo
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I believe that is the most poorly conceived defensive plan I ever heard. The idea of carrying a blank in the chamber will, in all likelihood, get someone killed if they ever actually need to defend themselves.
