Drug cartels seize 2 ranches in TX

Are some folks on this forum actually in denial that violence, from the Mexician side of the Rio Grande, is spilling over into our border States? Let's see...Phoenix is in 2nd place for the most per capita kidnappings in the world; a rancher was recently murdered by illegals; a Public Park in Southern Arizona has been closed to US citizens due to the dangers being posed by Mexican drug cartels; illegals who have trespassed onto our soil are hurling rocks, large enough to kill, at our Border Guards while they're trying to enforce our laws; the trafficking of illegal drugs, human beings and sex slaves are all taking place on our southern border with Mexico; US citizens, who live near the border, are in constant fear for their lives and their property; Mexican illegals are demonstrating on our soil, while carrying the Mexican flag, demanding that we leave. It sounds like a war zone to me; and if you don't agree, your brain just isn't wired correctly.

While I'm on your side when it comes to illegal immigrants, and any kind of violence committed by them, we need to stay with the facts. Spreading things such as ranches being taken over by Mexican drug cartels, especially when the Laredo police department states emphatically that it didn't happen, does not help the cause. Scare tactics are a tool of the anti's and we should stick with facts. This way our arguments against the anti's will be better accepted. Our government has let us down when it comes to securing the borders and I fully support laws like Arizona's when it comes to protecting what the Feds don't. By the way the vast majority of kidnappings in Arizona are aimed at illegal immigrants where they are then sold as sex slaves or forced servitude.
 
I have now come around to the opinion that that was a hoax. While it is possible to shut down the media for a time I think by now if this story was true it would of broke by now.

All that said do not lower your guard. If this has not happened yet sooner or later it surely will.
 
More right wing fud

how many of these hoax's are we going to see?

What political group is resposible for these hoax's?

Come on, you can say it.

Why on earth would they start this and many other hoax's?

For your entertainment?

NO, they are trying to sell you something.

Guess what that is?

They want your hearts, minds, and cash.

WWJD?
 
Be aware that all Socialists / Communists hate our Flag, the Pledge Of Allegiance, the National Anthem and Religion. That is how you can tell them from Real Americans.
Anti-Americanism is the most defining mark of the followers of Marx, Stalin and Mao.
Well, now, I'm really glad to see you say this! We finally have some common ground we can agree on!

Perhaps you remember this:
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I'm feeling freakin' warm, all over! I think I even feel a shiver going up my leg!

Let's everybody sing Kumbaya!!

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Well, now, I'm really glad to see you say this! We finally have some common ground we can agree on!

Perhaps you remember this:
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I'm feeling freakin' warm, all over! I think I even feel a shiver going up my leg!

Let's everybody sing Kumbaya!!

.
Barry failed to observe the rules. This was not a smart thing to do. I thought Barry was a master at politics.
Maybe he was tired that day?
Tell me, if Barry had covered his heart, would you have voted for him?

One more thing, what does this have to do with a mexican drug gang?


United States Code Title 36
§301. National anthem
Designation. — The composition consisting of the words and music known as the Star-Spangled Banner is the national anthem.

Conduct During Playing — During rendition of the national anthem —
when the flag is displayed —
individuals in uniform should give the military salute at the first note of the anthem and maintain that position until the last note;
members of the Armed Forces and veterans who are present but not in uniform may render the military salute in the manner provided for individuals in uniform; and
all other persons present should face the flag and stand at attention with their right hand over the heart, and men not in uniform, if applicable, should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart; and
when the flag is not displayed, all present should face toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the flag were displayed.
 
how many of these hoax's are we going to see?

Well, there's the healthcare trash, the multi-trillion dollar deficit, gov't owned business not defined by the Constitution, virtually total indifference to natural disasters... get it?

What political group is resposible for these hoax's?

uhhh, the Democrats congressional majority, and an alien President

Come on, you can say it.

OK, OBAMA is responsible

Why on earth would they start this and many other hoax's?

So that barry can be king.... he wants his own world order

For your entertainment?

Not at all... for barrys political enrichment

NO, they are trying to sell you something.

Guess what that is?

Socialism/communism

They want your hearts, minds, and cash.

and, barry's bunch will legislate the disposition of all three if they aren't stopped

WWJD?

deal with it
 
jay,
I think you are saying it is ok to publish FUD as long as we trash Barry Obama and his gang of liberals?

I don't understand the logic.

FUD is wrong. It scares the sheep. It stirs up the stupid.

deal with it.
 
It's my opinion that barry deserves to be trashed. You don't have to like it, or agree with it.

Don't think, it scares barry....
 
Barry isn't much more than a puppet... Look close, you can almost see the strings.

It doesn't make him any less contemptible though.
 
It's my opinion that barry deserves to be trashed. You don't have to like it, or agree with it.

Don't think, it scares barry....

...almost forgot... barry wants his minions mindless, obedient, and oblivious to common sense.

:mad:
 
So apart from previously being an Illinois Senator, how is BO personally responsible for the Mexican border situation?

That "is" what this thread is supposed to be about, right?

Or is every off-topic and political thread supposed to lead to Obama bashing?
 
So apart from previously being an Illinois Senator, how is BO personally responsible for the Mexican border situation?

He has failed to secure our southern border, or even attempted to stem the numbers of illegals (NOT undocumented) aliens that are bringing arms, drugs, and people across that border, virtually at will, thus endangering those U.S. citizens living along those borders. This administration has gone so far as to erect signs warning U.S. citizens about the dangers of traveling within 70-80 miles of the border, but INSIDE of the United States. This farce of a President has openly stated theat "the buck stops here".... (with him)

So what?
 
That border has not been secure since the Louisiana purchase, but it's been getting better ever since.

Your complaining it's not sealed perfectly and it's BO's fault? He's been in office less than 2 years. Oh I get it, you're of those types who wants it "now."

That really is pretty disingenuous.

I fail to see how it's BO's fault so many Mexicans want to leave their impoverished crime-ridden corrupt excuse for a country. IIRC, the Border Patrol has seen increased staffing and budgets annually year-over-year for the past 10 years.

Get off the BO bashing bandwagon. You are starting to look a little silly.
 
what has barry done to stem the flow of illegals, arms, and drugs........ besides allow/encourage the Mexican President to verbally castigate attempts by states to do what needs to be done?

Whatever he says he has done....has it been remotely successful?

Has there been any other President that has promoted another foreign leader to address congress to further the political gain of the sitting administration?
 
Folks have a right to support barry if they choose, and I have a right to fear the path he's forcing our country to take.

Neither of us is going to change our opinion, which we BOTH have a right to express.......

I hope both of our futures holds better things than I forsee.
 
Get off the BO bashing bandwagon. You are starting to look a little silly.

I'll tell you who looks "silly". A so-called "leader" of THIS country, giving citizenship to violent gang members...complete amnesty, if only they say, "We won't be bad anymore. We promise."
And one more thing for the record; that goes for ANY president of ANY political party.
Bush had a "don't deport 'em" policy that sucked just as much donkey, so I don't think anybody is on the bash wagon for anything other than bashing "stupidity". It's not the fault of the majority that Obama just happens to encompass more of it than anyone since Carter.
 
I'll tell you who looks "silly". A so-called "leader" of THIS country, giving citizenship to violent gang members...complete amnesty...
'Scuse me, I must have missed that. Can you provide a reference or link? I'm sure laws get passed I'm unaware of all the time, but I think that one would have been pretty big news. :laugh:
 
OMG, they have started mass Googling FUDicles together for distribution now. :laugh:

..and draft proposals. Good Lord back at ya!

Hey I got a proposal for you: How about y'all stop believing the FUD?

That one should go about as far the one Jay provided a link to. :rolleyes:
 

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