I know that many Glock owners feel that it is perfectly safe to carry the weapon with a round in the chamber. In recent years, Glock has done nothing to discourage this practice. But that was not always the case. In fact, the gun was never designed to be carried with a round in the chamber. My early Glock manual states:
ALWAYS CARRY YOUR PISTOL EMPTY, WITH THE TRIGGER REARWARD EXCEPT WHEN YOU INTEND TO SHOOT, SO THAT THAT YOUR PISTOL CANNOT BE FIRED WHERE IT IS UNSAFE TO DO SO.
Thay all say that it's a liability thing. Galco tells you you should never carry a weapon in their holsters w/ a round in the chamber
I have no comment about Galco, except to say that they make excellent holsters and gun cases.
When you say its a liability thing, I don't really buy that. When Glock provides you with an operator's manual describing the features and function of the pistol, how it should be operated, what is safe and unsafe, I think you should be able to take what they say at face value, and not have to guess whether they really mean it or whether its just "hype" or "cover your *ss" language. Is it then Ok to just pick and choose which statements in the manual you want to follow and disregard the others?
If Glock designed the pistol to safely carried with a round in the chamber, then why didn't they just say so? Instead, they tell you it's unsafe to do so.
However, my guess is that most Glock owners feel the same way that you do and carry with a round in the chamber. Then when some poor guy makes a mistake and inadvertently touches the trigger when holstering, and blows a hole in his leg, Glock can tell him to take a hike because he was stupid enough to carry the gun with a round in the chamber in violation of the warning in its manual.
Is that what you meant?
If Glock designed the pistol to safely carried with a round in the chamber, then why didn't they just say so? Instead, they tell you it's unsafe to do so.
To reduce the possibility of an accidental discharge, do not place your finger on the trigger until the firearm is pointed at the target and you intend to fire. If you don't want the firearm to fire, keep your finger off the trigger.
I've got one of these and it works great. It takes care of the round-in-chamber Glock issue for those who are uncomfortable with it.
Where in the Glock manual does it say not to carry it with one in the chamber?
This is from the original manual for the first generation Glock 17, published in August of 1986.
It also states: DO NOT CARRY PISTOL IN COCKED POSITION (TRIGGER IN FOREMOST POSITION). THIS IS NOT THE RECOMMENDED SAFE-CARRYING METHOD.
Oh, come on. Thousands of law enforcement and private citizens carry Glocks, or guns w/similar mechanisms everyday with a round in the chamber. Do you really think that Glocks, or guns that use similar mechanisms would be issued to law enforcement, who are likely required by department policy to carry "cocked and locked" if they were not safe to do so?
What I quoted came directly from the original Glock manual, at the time the gun was first sold in the United States. So if you have a problem with it, complain to Glock. Based on what is stated in the manual, however, it seems clear that the gun was not originally designed to be carried with a round in the chamber.
It's no different than the notice: "Caution Contents are HOT" on a McDonald's coffee cup
Oh, come on. Thousands of law enforcement and private citizens carry Glocks, or guns w/similar mechanisms everyday with a round in the chamber. Do you really think that Glocks, or guns that use similar mechanisms would be issued to law enforcement, who are likely required by department policy to carry "cocked and locked" if they were not safe to do so?
OK, here's an example of what I have been talking about ------- hot off the press. Yesterday, an Alabama guy retrieved his Glock pistol from the glove compartment of his truck and as he walked back to his house, he tripped and fell, causing the gun to discharge into his leg. As the guy was calling to wife for help, his young son arrived at the scene and picked-up the pistol. As his wife arrived, the boy inadvertently touched the trigger, shooting his mother in the neck.
In my opinion, this was a totally preventable accident. I am assuming that as the guy tripped, he accidentally pulled the trigger (probably a reflex response), causing the discharge. It does not sound like he intentionally pulled the trigger. Had this Glock had a manual safety, this double tragedy never would have occurred.
You can call the guy dumb, stupid or any name under the sun, the fact remains that this was an accident, pure and simple, that could have been prevented with a simple manual safety ---- the type of safety design feature that has been around for over 100 years, that Glock continues to ignore, at least with respect pistols it sells in the U.S.
I see what you are saying but (Treo's got a big ol but oh yeah) GLOCKs don't have hair triggers. You don't just touch the trigger and it "goes off" you have to actually be pulling on the trigger to get it to fire.
This accident could have been just as easily prevented by keeping your finger off the trigger
I do own a Glock with a standard trigger, and it doesn't take much to pull 5.5 lbs., and particularly if you are tripping and falling.
I've woke out of a sound sleep w/ my gun in my hand and my finger was right where it was supposed to be said:Not that it's any of my business, but what the hell are you doing sleeping with a gun in your hand? That does sound like an accident waiting to happen.
Not that it's any of my business, but what the hell are you doing sleeping with a gun in your hand? That does sound like an accident waiting to happen.
I don't sleep w/ a gun in my hand I grabbed it off the night table during a bad dream. I've also pushed my wife out of bed in the middle of the night because I heard machine gun fire that wasn't there
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